So you think that there is no difference between Bush and Kerry?

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Party		Democrat	Republican
Has Held Elected Office		Yes	Yes
Served in the Military		Yes		Yes
Issues
Abortion
Appoint Judges Who Will Outlaw Abortions		Strongly Opposes		Strongly Favor
Outlaw "Partial Birth" Abortions		Strongly Opposes	Strongly Favor
Outlaw Abortions Except for Rape/Incest			Strongly Opposes	Strongly Favor
Parental Notification for Minors Under 18		Strongly Opposes	Strongly Favor
Gay Rights
Constitutional Gay Marriage Ban		Somewhat Opposes	Strongly Favor
Equal Rights for Civil Unions			Strongly Favor	Somewhat Opposes
Allow Gays to Openly Serve in the Military		Strongly Favor	Strongly Opposes
Religion in Government
Organized Prayer in Public Schools		Strongly Opposes	Strongly Favor
Commandments Displayed in Federal Buildings			Strongly Opposes	Strongly Favor
Federal Funding of Religious Charities		Strongly Opposes	Strongly Favor
Gun Control
Safety Devices on All New Guns		Strongly Favor	Strongly Opposes
Background Checks on Gun Show Purchases			Strongly Favor	Somewhat Opposes
Require Safety Course, License Before Gun Purchase		Somewhat Favor	Strongly Opposes
Allow Lawsuits Against Gun Manufacturers		Somewhat Favor	Strongly Opposes
Death Penalty
Abolish the Death Penalty			Strongly Opposes	Strongly Opposes
National Review of Death Penalty Fairness		Strongly Favor	Strongly Opposes
Education
No Child Left Behind Act		Somewhat Favor	Strongly Favor
Vouchers for Public, Private or Religious Schools			Strongly Opposes	Strongly Favor
Increase Federal Funding for Higher Education		Somewhat Favor	Somewhat Opposes
Homeland Security
The Patriot Act		Strongly Opposes	Strongly Favor
Tighter Immigration Controls			Strongly Favor	Strongly Favor
Iraq
The War in Iraq		Somewhat Opposes		Strongly Favor
Turning Over More Political Authority to U.N.		Somewhat Favor	Strongly Opposes
Immediate Withdrawal of U.S. Troops			Strongly Opposes	Strongly Opposes
Foreign Trade
Embargo on Cuba		Somewhat Favor		Strongly Favor
U.S. Involvement in NAFTA		Strongly Favor	Strongly Favor
Mandatory Labor/Environment Standards in Trade Agreements			Somewhat Favor	Strongly Opposes
Health Care
Universal Government-Supervised Health Care		Somewhat Opposes		Strongly Opposes
Medicare Prescription Drugs Coverage By Private Insurers		Strongly Opposes	Strongly Favor
Expand Medicaid to Cover More Uninsured Americans			Strongly Favor	No Opinion
Limit Malpractice Suits Against Doctors, Insurers		Somewhat Favor	Strongly Favor
Welfare Reform
Hiring Welfare Workers Tax Incentive		No Opinion	Somewhat Opposes
Welfare Benefits for Legal Immigrants			Strongly Favor	Somewhat Opposes
Child Care Services for Getting Off Welfare		No Opinion	Somewhat Opposes
Social Security
Raise Retirement Age		Strongly Opposes	No Opinion
Privatize Social Security			Strongly Opposes	Strongly Favor
Cap Payments to Wealthy		Somewhat Favor	Strongly Opposes
Tax Cuts
Roll Back the Bush Administration Tax Cuts		Somewhat Opposes	Strongly Opposes
Roll Back Cuts for People Making Over $100,000			Strongly Favor	Strongly Opposes
Additional Tax Cuts for Businesses		Strongly Opposes	Strongly Favor
Jobs
Raise the Minimum Wage		Strongly Favor	Strongly Opposes
Extend Unemployment Benefits			Strongly Favor	Strongly Opposes
Environment
Oil Drilling in the Arctic Wildlife Refuge		Strongly Opposes		Strongly Favor
Mandatory Clean Air Emissions Standards		Strongly Favor	Somewhat Opposes
Tougher Fuel Efficiency Standards			Strongly Favor	Strongly Opposes

[McGavin999]

Yes I am self employed. And you have managed to twist your question and arguement into something that does not even resemble any question we are facing. Please show me where President Bush is proposing raising taxes on anyone.

[woodyinscc]

o when the President recently proposed 15 billion for low income marriage counseling

Better check your figures pal.

[gatorbait]

If you think about it, maybe you can figure out why Bush's support of it is not a reason to support him.
<p? I've thought about it a great deal.One thing about it, if the Dems hate it,it cannot be all bad. It's a non starter. So, which one are you rooting for, Kerry,Dean or Edwards? Maybe you're a Hillary! fan..imagining Chief Justice William Jefferson Blythe Clinton. That's the ticket.

[Minuteman23]

I wasn't aware that I was beginning a debate with someone who labels anyone who is disgusted with Bush's spending and his support of the Patriot Act a supporter of the democrats. I have never voted for a democrat, and I never will. And I won't debate anyone who resorts categorizing me as a democrat supporter at the drop of a hat either.

[gatorbait]

The problem is this, simply, each time the Patriot act is brought up,particularly on this board, some sinister paranoid ramblings usually accompany it. Now, if you want to discuss it rationally , without shibboleths, great, I too have problems with it. If you want to get all thin skinned and injured, then no, you'd be wasting all of our time.

[gatorbait]

The problem is this, simply, each time the Patriot act is brought up,particularly on this board, some sinister paranoid ramblings usually accompany it. Now, if you want to discuss it rationally , without shibboleths, great, I too have problems with it. If you want to get all thin skinned and injured, then no, you'd be wasting all of our time.

[gatorbait]

Sorry about the double post, y'all.

[going hot]

Ah, but you see, when they "tax the rich" they are taxing you.......

I read the entire paragraph following the above beginning. You could have simply posted the first sentence, as above.

The gov't raises the taxes on the rich, the business owners, because they take less hits for it, than if they raised taxes on the actual masses of voters. Each person has only one vote. So, why raise the taxes on 100 "average income" schmoes, when they can generate the same amount of tax revenue by raising the taxes on ONE rich dude (or dudette).

The rich person does not dig into their own pockets to make up the extra tax, no, they simply raise their prices accordingly. So, in essence, the average shmoe does get the tax hit, only in a circumspect way, and they then feel happy that the rich guy's tax is raised, and not their own. Stupidity or blissful ignorance, you decide.

[NYpeanut]

That is officially my new favorite graphic (I'm retiring billary dancing on the beach).

[Minuteman23]

I'll borrow part of a post that another freeper (Joanie F) wrote a couple days ago:

I voted for someone who told me that he stood for responsible, minimal governmentt. What I got was irresponsible, expanding government.

Since the blessed Reagan era, I have been betrayed twice. The first time was by Bush #1. But his betrayal wasn’t nearly as painful as his son’s. He wasn’t entrusted with cleaning up the stench created by eight years of the most traitorous, inept, immoral, socialist administration in our history. Bush #2 was entrusted with the job of leading us back toward, if not back onto, the path our Founders laid out.

He lost his way, and is dragging us – kicking and screaming -- further into the wilderness.

This president has supported virtually every left-wing socialist program that has come across his desk. And he’s even invented some himself.

This administration has spent more on entitlement/social programs (both existing and newly-created) than its free-spending, card-carrying admitted socialist predecessor.

This administration has capitulated to the anti-education teachers unions and stolen significant constitutional power from local school districts – enhancing the already abusive power of the Department of Indoctrination.

This administration has attempted to buy the votes and approval of its ideological enemies (fat chance!) by introducing amnesty for illegal aliens and increased funding for the National Endowment of the (more often than not degenerate, anti-Western civilization) ‘Arts’.

This administration has allowed the mass overseas migration of our manufacturing sector to be labeled ‘progress towards a more cerebral economy’ and has smugly sat back, nodding its head in apathetic agreement.

This administration has betrayed Taiwan in order to maintain the status quo with our most deadly ideological enemy.

This administration has allowed unelected, unaccountable monetary policymakers to manipulate free markets, to declare the laws of economics no longer valid, and to use magic tricks and semantics to redefine the dollar as nothing more than a promissory note backed by nothing more than the good faith of a government that has lost all integrity.

etc....

All of the above (and the dozens, if not hundreds, of other similar atrocities that have received the Bush administration’s stamp of approval) are either unconstitutional, or liberty/sovereignty/national security destructive. And there is one thing they all have in common: they are the enemy of conservative convictions.

All of these things are true and none of them are explained on this simplistic chart. What's your opinion of them?

[gatorbait]

All of these things are true and none of them are explained on this simplistic chart. What's your opinion of them?

Before I comment, are you really RiflemanSharp with a new handle? The posting and comment style seem eerily familiar.

[Minuteman23]

I don't know who RiflemanSharp is, but I've been me since I first started here in '99.

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