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S.C. workers fail to connect trade issues with lost jobs
Charlotte Observer ^ | Jan 30, 2004 | TONY MECIA

Posted on 01/31/2004 7:41:18 PM PST by TaxRelief

GEORGETOWN, S.C. -- Joe Gamble climbs into his black Chevy pickup and leaves the auto glass repair shop, where he spent 20 fruitless minutes trying to persuade workers to vote for Howard Dean.

Like many of the 600 steelworkers laid off in October in this small town south of Myrtle Beach, Gamble, 49, is convinced foreign trade cost him his job. But even here, where the jobless rate is among the state's highest at nearly 15 percent, converting that outrage into political power is proving to be a tough task.

Neither of the two workers at the glass-repair shop last week plans to vote. "Somebody's got to abstain," one told him.

Even though South Carolina has lost about one in every five manufacturing jobs over the last three years, the issue of foreign trade isn't gaining traction with S.C. voters as Tuesday's Democratic presidential primary approaches.

Textile executives have tried to push the issue into the spotlight, as have textile unions and Georgetown's steelworkers.

But Gamble's experience at the glass-repair shop, as well as interviews with more than two dozen Georgetown residents, illustrate the difficulties in trying to mobilize voters to reverse the decades-long trend toward free trade.

Around Georgetown, population 9,000, residents are concerned about the scarcity of jobs and want the economy to improve. But they hold out little hope that politicians will make any serious effort to stop low-cost goods from flooding the country and putting people out of work.

Still, that hasn't stopped politicians from descending on Georgetown, 200 miles southeast of Charlotte. John Edwards is expected this weekend, and Dean and Dick Gephardt visited in the last month.

Gephardt, the most outspoken opponent of free trade in the Democratic field, dropped out of the race last week after a poor showing in the Iowa caucuses. Polls there showed just 4 percent of caucus-goers identified trade as the major issue.

"It's a real hard issue to explain and connect on," said David Woodard, a political science professor at Clemson University. "People just glaze over it."

A long history of prosperity

Georgetown has a long history with international trade. Founded in 1729 as South Carolina's third city, development took off when it opened its port three years later.By the mid-19th century, indigo and rice had helped make the area wealthy, and Georgetown's port exported more rice than any other port in the world, local historians say.

Today, Georgetown's charming downtown lures tourists from nearby Myrtle Beach and Charleston. Just blocks away lies the Georgetown Steel mill, built in 1969, and beyond that the International Paper mill, built in 1936, supplied by a steady stream of timber trucks on U.S. 17.

Neither is universally loved, particularly among the town's growing crop of retirees, which helps explain why enlisting residents to combat free trade at the polls is so difficult. Residents complain that the steel mill cast off reddish dust that discolored nearby homes, and the paper mill produces an occasional yet unmistakable stench.

When the steel mill closed, not everyone mourned, said Wendy Jordan, 32, a waitress at Thomas' Cafe downtown.

"Some people's really upset, and some people's not," she said. "I have heard that Georgetown would look better without the steel mill. That could be true. I don't know."

The mill made wire rods, used in products such as tire cord, brake pads, coat hangers and fish hooks. In bankruptcy court documents, Georgetown Steel explained that it was forced to shut down because costs of natural gas and scrap metal rose dramatically while foreign competition left it unable to raise prices.

The federal government deemed that the layoffs were the result of imports, which provides workers additional tax money for retraining.

But around town, there are plenty of other villains, which complicate efforts to blame foreign trade exclusively.

Some suspect that the mill's owner, a local conservationist, bought the company in 2002 for the purpose of shutting it down and redeveloping the waterfront property -- a charge the owner has denied.

Others blame the union, which rejected pay cuts that the owner said would help keep the mill afloat.

Steelworkers say local politicians didn't try hard enough to broker a deal that might have kept the mill running.

"Everybody's got their own opinion about things," Jordan said.

At the union hall a few blocks from the dormant factory, James Sanderson stands in the parking lot, talking with a half-dozen steelworkers about their support for Dean.

Sanderson, the president of the local union, says Dean will fight for workers. The media give Dean a bum wrap for being angry, says Sanderson, who can become a bit animated himself.

"People in this country should be angry," he said. "These jobs need to come back."

People don't realize that the taxes paid by big manufacturers help keep property taxes low and fund firefighters and police officers, he says. They don't see that their jobs could be the next to be shipped overseas.

"If they knew their jobs were next, they would get upset," he said. "But for whatever reason, people don't do nothing unless they're affected by it."

(Excerpt) Read more at charlotte.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; US: North Carolina; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2004; dean; deaniacs; election2004; howarddean; issues; jobs; manufacturing; nceconomy; ncpolitics; northcarolina; oldnorthstate; sc; sceconomy; scpolitics; textiles; trade
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The "angry, white male" just isn't out there. Based on this article, voter turnout may be very low (more reason to make sure every FReeper and every FR Lurker is a poll-watcher on Nov. 2nd).
1 posted on 01/31/2004 7:41:20 PM PST by TaxRelief
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To: TaxRelief
Free trade is not the problem. Unions and their attempts to stifle innovation and improvements in productivity are causing their problems.

and besides we don't have free trade in the real sense of the word.

2 posted on 01/31/2004 7:54:08 PM PST by GeronL (www.ArmorforCongress.com ............... Support a FReeper for Congress)
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To: GeronL
We agree. But all good Congressman Billybob fans do seem to agree on this issue. : )
3 posted on 01/31/2004 8:00:54 PM PST by TaxRelief (P-A-N-T-H-E-R-S, Go panthers!)
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To: TaxRelief
"Joe Gamble climbs into his black Chevy pickup and leaves the auto glass repair shop, where he spent 20 fruitless minutes trying to persuade workers to vote for Howard Dean."

The really silly thing is that Democrats and Republicans have almost exactly the same Laissez-Faire positions on trade. It's 6 of one and a half-dozen of the other, and yet these union dummies still think the Democrats are going to save them. Who do they think signed NAFTA, for pete's sake?

4 posted on 01/31/2004 8:11:15 PM PST by Batrachian
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"S.C. workers fail to connect trade issues with lost jobs." They are not the only ones. I heard a little bit of Limbaugh Friday. Downplaying jobs lost to overseas he tried to make a case that most jobs in SC were lost due to tobacco's declining fortunes though he acknowledged that tobacco was just twelve percent of SC's economy.

"NAFTA. It's for the consumers." Hillary Limbaugh.

5 posted on 01/31/2004 9:07:31 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael
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To: TaxRelief
"Even though South Carolina has lost about one in every five manufacturing jobs over the last three years, the issue of foreign trade isn't gaining traction with S.C. voters as Tuesday's Democratic presidential primary approaches"

One in every five manufacturing jobs were "lost" in the last three years???? Give me an F'ing break.

Did this "Fact" come off a DNC Fax or something? 20% of manufacturing Employees are unemployed in SC?

When I worked there, we couldn't find enough SKILLED manufacturing employees.

6 posted on 01/31/2004 9:22:21 PM PST by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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To: UNGN
manufacturing employment in the US has declined for 41 consecutive months. its now just 15% of US employment, and headed lower. I am not sure of the SC particulars, but it cannot be pretty.
7 posted on 01/31/2004 9:24:49 PM PST by oceanview
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To: TaxRelief
Thank you, and I agree. LOL.

Congressman Billybob

Click here, then click the blue CFR button, to join the anti-CFR effort (or visit the "Hugh & Series, Critical & Pulled by JimRob" thread).

8 posted on 01/31/2004 9:26:55 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: TaxRelief
Why do jobs go overseas? High taxes, frivolous environmental and workers compensation laws.
9 posted on 01/31/2004 9:28:10 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (EEE)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
and I guess the 27 cents per hour wage in china has nothing to do with it?
10 posted on 01/31/2004 9:29:35 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview
one of my clients is in the outsourcing of services business. they have been signing up hundreds of companies to do work that was once done in house. those jobs are listed as lost. figures can lie.
11 posted on 02/01/2004 4:44:29 AM PST by q_an_a
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To: *Old_North_State; **North_Carolina; Constitution Day; mykdsmom; TaxRelief; 100%FEDUP; ...

NC Ping*

Let me or MYkdsmom or Constitution Day know if you want on or off the NCPing list or if you think you've been accidentally dropped or ....
12 posted on 02/01/2004 4:57:37 AM PST by TaxRelief (P-A-N-T-H-E-R-S, Go panthers!)
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To: oceanview
There are many things that most or all Americans need to buy. Why should they be forced to do without or pay much more to keep a relative handfull of unions workers employed at internationallty uncompetitive wages?

Wal Mart food is 14% cheaper than the other unuon chains. All children and old folks shoud pay 14% more for a few thousand unskilled grocery workers? Sell that one to your grandmother.
13 posted on 02/01/2004 5:03:41 AM PST by BillM
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To: BillM
There are many things that most or all Americans need to buy. Why should they be forced to do without or pay much more to keep a relative handfull of unions workers employed at internationallty uncompetitive wages?

Why should I be forced to subsidize the purchase of "cheap" foreign goods? Think about it... when the US factory closes, my taxes go up, to pay for the loss of property taxes paid by that factory & it's former employees. My taxes go up to pay for social-welfare costs of those unemployed workers. My taxes go up to cover job-retraining programs. My taxes even go up to cover the costs of the increased volume of imports (port infrastructure, customs, transportation networks, etc).

Face it... as long as this is a social-welfare state, "free trade" doesn't benefit the average american much, if at all. All it does is pass the costs from one, rapidly growing group (unemployed, under-employed, low-income) to the shrinking middle class.

Free trade, along with the importation of millions of poor, uneducated turd-worlders, is slowly stratifying this nation into the classic third-world model of a small, isolated elite ruling class and the masses of angry poor.

We all know that liberty can't survive without a large, prosperous middle class, which seems to be our largest export item these days.

14 posted on 02/01/2004 5:53:46 AM PST by LIBERTARIAN JOE
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To: oceanview
manufacturing employment in the US has declined for 41 consecutive months. its now just 15% of US employment, and headed lower. I am not sure of the SC particulars, but it cannot be pretty.

Please name the specific plant closings in SC. SC is not a old factory, high wage rust belt state. The only companies I know of in SC that have less employees now than in 1999 when I left the state are the outdated textile mills.

Employees get replace with automation. It's a GOOD thing. There is no F'ing way 20% (or 15% or even 5%) of SC Jobs were lost in the last 3 years. Those people are still working there, they just aren't out on the floor pushing a button when the green light comes on.

BMW in spartanburg had A HUGE expansion in the last 3 years. That would have not been possible without free trade.

15 posted on 02/01/2004 7:10:45 AM PST by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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To: LIBERTARIAN JOE; BillM
Why should I be forced to subsidize the purchase of "cheap" foreign goods? Think about it... when the US factory closes, my taxes go up, to pay for the loss of property taxes paid by that factory & it's former employees. My taxes go up to pay for social-welfare costs of those unemployed workers. My taxes go up to cover job-retraining programs. My taxes even go up to cover the costs of the increased volume of imports (port infrastructure, customs, transportation networks, etc)

If only that were true. Unfortunately for the children of this nation, the true cost of this disaster is being heaped upon them in the form of massive federal debt. That and the fact they will be stripped naked, left without a manufacturing base, the means of protecting themselves in the future.

16 posted on 02/01/2004 8:17:25 AM PST by Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
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To: LIBERTARIAN JOE
When the companies fold or become more efficient and the ex-employees redploy their energy and skills there is a net gain in national productivity.

If this weren't so, you would have all the farms in America abandoning automation for armies of farmworkers. Roads would be built with pick and shovel. Buildings would be assembled with hand tools.

Unproductive enterprises must fail in order to provide pressure to improve.

All of us have benefitted enormously from the changes in farmin, construction, communications, etc.
17 posted on 02/01/2004 8:48:55 AM PST by BillM
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To: TaxRelief
I have been vacationing at Myrtle over Memorial Day for the last 6 years and what the NAACP has tried to do with the Black Bikers get together has been disgusting.

Myrtle Beach residents have successfully conveyed their disgust and the attendance there last year was down by at least half.

18 posted on 02/01/2004 9:12:40 AM PST by Helms (Liberals believe we are Crash Dummies on the hectic highway of the Cosmos)
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To: UNGN
actually, the US had made it clear we would protect auto production with tariffs (imported light trucks are tariffed), that's why you see Nissan building pickup truck plants in the US.

I don't have any SC particulars, but the national numbers for manufacturing employment are undeniable.
19 posted on 02/01/2004 10:00:45 AM PST by oceanview
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To: BillM
what you are "saving" by getting cheap goods, you are going to have to hand back in the form of taxes to support the workers who no longer have jobs with incomes that can sustain them, and need public assistance and programs to do it. pick your poison, there is no free ride.
20 posted on 02/01/2004 10:02:50 AM PST by oceanview
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