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Nashville Schools to Stop Honor Roll, Embarrasses Underachievers
ChronWatch ^ | 01-27-2004 | Matt Gouras - AP

Posted on 01/29/2004 9:05:07 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - The school honor roll, a time-honored system for rewarding A-students, has become an apparent source of embarrassment for some underachievers.

As a result, all Nashville schools have stopped posting honor rolls, and some are also considering a ban on hanging good work in the hallways - all at the advice of school lawyers.

After a few parents complained their children might be ridiculed for not making the list, Nashville school system lawyers warned that state privacy laws forbid releasing any academic information, good or bad, without permission.

Some schools have since put a stop to academic pep rallies. Others think they may have to cancel spelling bees. And now schools across the state may follow Nashville's lead.

The change has upset many parents who want their children recognized for hard work.

''This is as backward as it gets,'' said Miriam Mimms, who has a son at Meigs Magnet School and helps run the Parent Teacher Association. ''There has to be a way to come back from the rigidity.''

The problem appears unique to Tennessee, since most states follow federal student privacy guidelines, which allow the release of such things as honor rolls, U.S. Department of Education officials said.

''It's the first time I've heard of schools doing that,'' said department spokesman Jim Bradshaw.

But Nashville school lawyers based their decision last month on a state privacy law dating back to the 1970s--a law that's not always followed because no one challenged the honor roll status quo.

School officials are developing permission slips to give parents of the Nashville district's 69,000 students the option of having their children's work recognized. They hope to get clearance before the next grading cycle--in about six weeks at some schools.

Until then, school principals are left trying to figure out what they can and can't do.

Sandy Johnson, chief instructional officer for the Nashville schools, says the restrictions go ''far beyond the honor role.''

''It's for anything having to do with grades and attendance or anything normally reserved just for the student or parent,'' she said.

Getting parents to sign permission slips won't help protect students from being left out, but at least it will comply with the law, school officials said.

Christy Ballard, general counsel for the state Education Department, said she's ''getting a lot of calls'' since the Nashville decision, and will recommend that all Tennessee public schools get honor roll permission slips from parents.

In Knoxville, school district spokesman Russ Oaks said they do not think posting good information about a student violates state law. He said they put such information in the same category as sports statistics.

But some school systems already get parents to sign a release before student information is made public. Others think it might be a good idea to get rid of the honor roll altogether, as Principal Steven Baum did at Julia Green Elementary in Nashville.

''The rationale was, if there are some children that always make it and others that always don't make it, there is a very subtle message that was sent,'' he said. ''I also understand right to privacy is the legal issue for the new century.''

Baum thinks spelling bees and other publicly graded events are leftovers from the days of ranking and sorting students.

''I discourage competitive games at school,'' he said. ''They just don't fit my world view of what a school should be.''

Parents at most schools, though, have been close to outrage over the new rule.

''So far, what we've heard parents say is 'This is crazy; spend your time doing other things,' '' said Teresa Dennis, principal at Percy Priest Elementary School. ''It does seem really silly.''

A similar issue over student privacy went to the U.S. Supreme Court two years ago, when some parents objected to students grading each other's work. The court sided with tradition in that case, ruling the long-standing practice of teachers asking students to swap papers and grade them in class does not violate federal privacy law.

''It's not always clear what falls into (the privacy laws),'' says Naomi E. Gittins, an attorney with the National School Boards Association. ''Schools often take a more cautious route.''


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I especially like the comment from Principal Baum, ''I discourage competitive games at school,'' ... ''They just don't fit my world view of what a school should be.''

It's a good thing the parents of Julia Green Elementary School have such an enlightened roll model for their children.

1 posted on 01/29/2004 9:05:07 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Sgt_Schultze
I have a nephew in a public school where they have an "Honor Roll"
and a "Distiguished Honor Roll" Basically if you are not on the Distiguished Honor Roll you get on the Regular Honor Roll. Thus the whole class is on an honor roll.
2 posted on 01/29/2004 9:08:47 AM PST by CasearianDaoist
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the restrictions go ''far beyond the honor role.''"

"role"?
Writer to spelling emergency room, STAT!

3 posted on 01/29/2004 9:09:01 AM PST by John Beresford Tipton
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To: Sgt_Schultze
Which is worse....embarrassing underachievers, or dissappointing overachievers?
4 posted on 01/29/2004 9:09:05 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: Sgt_Schultze
All in preparation for the non-competitive world they will enter after high school.
5 posted on 01/29/2004 9:09:13 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Sgt_Schultze
Abolish government schools, problem solved.

There is no reason for any true conservative to spend two seconds worrying about what goes on in a government school, just as no true conservative cares whether there is prayer in brothels or whether there are sanitary working conditions in crack houses. They are simply places that decent people keep their children out of, and which ought to be shut down.

6 posted on 01/29/2004 9:10:51 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: anniegetyourgun
All in preparation for the non-competitive world they will enter after high school.

Goodbye Football and Basketball, Hello T-Ball!

7 posted on 01/29/2004 9:11:05 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Peace through Strength)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
Please, please tell me this is a well-written article of parody by exaggeration.
8 posted on 01/29/2004 9:13:03 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: freedumb2003
Any game will still be okay ... as long as nobody keeps score.
9 posted on 01/29/2004 9:14:38 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Sgt_Schultze
This is one of the reasons why we have kids who go postal once they enter the real world. We have sheltered them so much through public school, that once they face adversity they explode. This facade of utopia that liberals are creating in school is destroying the spirit and drive of human achievement. We're almost to the point were grading students will be done away with.
10 posted on 01/29/2004 9:15:15 AM PST by cwb (Dean = Dr. Jeckyll exposing his Hyde)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
The Principal's refusal to acknowledge competition and the good it brings is harmful to students.

Perhaps the good Principal has tenure and doesn't have to worry about such things as - having to compete for a job, having to compete to keep a job, having to compete for raises, etc.

Perhaps the Principal should prepare students to understand how competition can inspire personal growth by overcoming adversity, teamwork, and innovation. Ms. Baum would be wise to cite examples from American industry and have the students talk to their parents about how they've overcome challenges in their lives as well.

My Son will understand that in life it is up to YOU. It's not up to 'fairness' and everyone being handed an equal share. It's reality, something the libs are often denial of.

A competetive spirit, be it in academics, sports, or a career is essential not just to success - but to survival.
11 posted on 01/29/2004 9:15:37 AM PST by Made In The USA (Where is the outrage?!)
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To: stuartcr
There's really no reason to stop at the Honor Roll as grades perform the same distinguishing function.
12 posted on 01/29/2004 9:16:34 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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>>>Baum thinks spelling bees and other publicly graded events are leftovers from the days of ranking and sorting students. <<<

So Mz. Baum intends to send her children out totally unprepared for the ranking and sorting that the the world does to us all, no matter what vocation we pursue in life.

This idiocy is a result of not ranking and sorting of teachers for the past 50/60 years.

President Bush's proposal to finally do this has the lazy, weak and dumb educators that have been coddled by the teachers union (NEA), scared to death.

13 posted on 01/29/2004 9:16:36 AM PST by HardStarboard (Dump Wesley Clark.....he worries me as much as Hillary!)
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To: freedumb2003
In fact, this principal should (in the interest of rectifying his having dared to compete for his position) give up his job to the guy/gal who came in last for his job.
14 posted on 01/29/2004 9:16:36 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Sgt_Schultze
Every day I see another reason to home school.
15 posted on 01/29/2004 9:19:43 AM PST by kellynla ("C" 1/5 1st Mar. Div. U.S.M.C. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi!)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
After a few parents complained their children might be ridiculed for not making the list, Nashville school system lawyers warned that state privacy laws forbid releasing any academic information, good or bad, without permission.

Unbelievable.

Message to these parents: and your children might get on the honor roll if they apply themselves more diligently.

16 posted on 01/29/2004 9:20:34 AM PST by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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I'm just surprised Nashville has an honor roll....
17 posted on 01/29/2004 9:20:52 AM PST by SouthernFreebird ( Go Panthers !)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
To further avoid ridicule, the district will construct appropriate housing for all its students, so none can feel embarrassed when they have friends (who live in houses) visting them in their trailers.

All students will also have to either walk or take a school bus every day, so those in jalopies won't feel hurt by seeing kids dropped off from new SUVs...

18 posted on 01/29/2004 9:21:03 AM PST by NativeNewYorker ( Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Sgt_Schultze; biblewonk
... all at the advice of school lawyers. After a few parents complained their children might be ridiculed ...

No surprise here.

{government church ping}

19 posted on 01/29/2004 9:21:38 AM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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To: newgeezer
I think it's another 19th ammendment thing.
20 posted on 01/29/2004 9:23:09 AM PST by biblewonk (I must try to answer all bible questions.)
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