[JustPiper]

For so many of you who have fought this fight for so long, I applaud you and know our resources collectively will make us a contention to deal with in Washington.

I only ask that the flaming and arguments be kept out of this thread and chitchat kept minimal. This is meant to be an informative thread on the issue of keeping our country safe.

[Major_Risktaker]

This is meant to be an informative thread on the issue of keeping our country safe.

JustPiper, I smell a Rat!

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Your American President.
Keeping you safe!

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Your American Homeland Security Chief.
Keeping you safe!

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Your American Southern Boarder Patrol.
Keeping you safe!

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Your American Boarder Patrol Car.
Keeping you safe!

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Your American Immigration Courts.
Keeping you safe!

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American's against Illegal Immigration!
Not feeling so safe!!

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[Lady Eileen]

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[Ohioan]

The Southern Poverty Law Center is one of the most vicious hate groups in America. It is also about as far Left as you can get. (See How To Recognize The Bigot In The Argument.)

William Flax

[Joe Hadenuf]

Bump!

[judgeandjury]

We had someone, that obviously was a DU and threatened us but singled myself out, with reporting it to Southern Poverty Law Center that I in fact was a hate monger.

A bum on the street has more integrity than Morris Dees, the headmeister of the Southern Poverty Law Center, a well known hate group.

[JustPiper]

Still image from television footage shows a group of Cubans as they tried to sail a 1959 Buick converted into a boat through the Florida Straits towards the United States, on February 3, 2004. The group were intercepted at sea by the U.S. Coast Guard (news - web sites), relatives in Cuba and Cuban exiles said on Feb. 4. (Reuters)

The U.S. Coast Guard (news - web sites) is seen intercepting a group of Cuban migrants sailing towards the Florida Straits on a modified 1959 Buick Tuesday February 3, 2004. The pilots were the same two men who tried to sail a converted 1951 Chevy flatbed truck to the U.S. last year. Nine other migrants, including wives and children. (AP Photo/photo released by CBS4 )

Cubans fail to sail to U.S. in car | Thu Feb 5,12:06 AM ET | By Frances Kerry | MIAMI (Reuters) - A group of Cubans who tried to sail to the United States in a 1959 Buick car fashioned into a boat have been intercepted at sea by the U.S. Coast Guard (news - web sites), relatives in Cuba and Cuban exiles say. | For four of the 11 people on board, it was not the first thwarted attempt to leave the communist island in a bizarrely converted vintage vehicle.

Cubans Try to Reach Fla. in Floating Car Wed Feb 4, 2:09 PM ET | MIAMI - Two Cubans who tried to sail to Florida in a truck converted to a pontoon boat last year are making another attempt, this time piloting a seagoing 1950s-era Buick with four other adults and five children, relatives said

[thecabal]

Border-Crossing Students Outrage Parents

SAN DIEGO — Mexican teenagers have been crossing the border to attend school in America for years as the schools they attend collect more tax dollars for enrolling them.

The crossings were first documented back in 1993 when a former San Diego assemblyman videotaped students crossing the border and boarding a bus that took them to a U.S. school.

The illegal crossings for education are still a trend eleven years later. A Fox News crew recently watched while students left Southwest High School (search) for the day and got on a trolley that took them down to the border where they crossed over to go home for the evening.

Parents in the Sweetwater School District (search) are outraged because they say students are now forced to go to schools that are overcrowded, and they say they've begged the district to implement tougher enrollment standards but the district insists the problem isn't widespread.

The district counters that they have very stringent residency rules and require students to show proof of residency before being enrolled. But the district admits it receives $5,400 each year from the state for each student enrolled, which some parents contend is the real issue.

[4.1O dana super trac pak]

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[JustPiper]

What part of "illegal" don't Americans understand?
by Tom DeWeese

Tom DeWeese is the publisher/editor of The DeWeese Report and president of the American Policy Center, an activist think tank headquartered in Warrenton, VA.

Which side one takes in the great debate over illegal immigration policy is a matter of values.

Do you treasure a strong, independent United States of America as the beacon of freedom in the world? Are you proud to live in a nation where personal liberty and free choice led to the creation of the highest standard of living and the best medical care in history? Do you believe in the free enterprise system? Do you believe in the rule of law, based on the Constitution, as the only way to protect your natural rights? Do you believe that the United States is unique among any other nation or system on earth?


If you hold these ideals as truth, then there is only one solution to illegal immigration. It must be stopped. None of the factors that distinguish the United States from all others can be preserved if this nation erases its borders and ignores its founding principles, primary among which is the rule of law. Ignoring or sanctioning eight million or more illegal immigrants among us will destroy the fabric of the nation.


We are told this is "a nation of immigrants" to justify allowing illegals to stay here. That contention is wrong on two counts. First, the nation was created by settlers who forged it out of a wilderness. They were here for 200 years before the Declaration of Independence. The American Revolution was fought to end the usurpation of their right to rule themselves. They chose a then-radical form of government that allowed each individual the freedom to seek his own way.


Because the American experiment was so successful others wanted to share in the fruits of these new liberties. A growing nation invited them to prosper among us. These were the true immigrants. They accepted American language, culture, and values. The nation grew in size, wealth, and power. Above all, they came in through the front door, the famous Ellis Island and other ports of entry. They were welcomed, processed, naturalized, and made legal citizens.


This brings us to the second mistake in today’s immigration debate. Policy makers are confusing the issue, mixing legals and illegals in the same argument. Let us celebrate those who make the decision to come here by asking permission and undergoing the difficult task of becoming a legal American. Truly, one has to want to be an American to go through the lengthy process. These honest, hard working, new Americans are rightfully proud of their achievement and are free to begin their own American journey with the full blessing of the American people.


There can be no comparison between these immigrants and those who sneak into the nation illegally. What incentive does anyone have to take the legal route when the nation just decides to give up and grant illegal immigrants amnesty? The illegals work jobs with American incentives that include Social Security, free education, and medical care, all funded by American taxpayers. Unlike previous generations of immigrants, most do not care to learn our language or culture.


Those from Mexico continue to consider themselves Mexicans as, indeed, they are.

Contrary to the argument that they contribute to our economy, they send billions of dollars back to Mexico, helping that nation’s economy. At the same time, they undermine the U.S. standard of living by swamping our schools, hospitals and social services. They fill our jails for the crimes they commit.


A national disaster is brewing. In an effort designed more to appease Mexican President Vicente Fox and less to actually fix the problem, the Bush Administration proposes to grant a temporary three-year legal status to those who are already here, provided they have a job and pay a registration fee. They would be given worker documentation, presumably so the government could keep track of them and monitor their status.


Well it sounds good, but there are questions to be answered. If enacted, the 8 to10 million illegals would be forgiven and free to function as legal workers. In a nation that still has many citizens seeking employment, many of whom would have to compete with them, will there also be a policy to stop more illegals who continue to pour across the border? Having failed to stop the newly documented immigrant workers, will our nation now enforce our laws?


Second, if the Immigration Service can’t keep track of millions of immigrants already documented, how will they keep track of 8 to10 million "temporary" workers? Can we trust those who broke the law and slipped into the nation illegally to now sign up for the new program and provide accurate information? What will their status be after the three year probation period ends?


Finally, consider what the new policy will do to the American businessman. Every time government comes up with a grand new plan, somehow the businessman gets stuck with the paperwork and the responsibility for implementing it. This new proposal requires businesses to first document that no U.S. citizen wants the job before hiring the illegal. That means government forms must be filled out on company time. Businesses will now be required to keep track of these workers, a task which the federal government has never been able to do.


This massive, purposeful, determined invasion of this nation is being driven by the Mexican government whose president has made his position clear. He said all barriers between the United States, Canada, and Mexico should be removed to allow people to live and work in the country of their choosing. He wants a North American Union like its European counterpart. He wants no borders. He wants one economy. He wants the fruits of our system to bail out the rot of his. To that end, President Fox is deliberately encouraging his own citizens to leave Mexico and illegally pour over our borders to gain the benefits of our free enterprise system.


In this way, American enterprise and wealth is being tapped to bail out his Mexico’s troubled economy. A tenth of Mexico’s population now resides in the United States.


The United States signed on to the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) in large part to help the Mexican economy and, presumably, to stop the flow of illegal aliens. Neither has happened. Instead, Mexico continues to tax its business class to the point of suffocation, thereby killing job growth, while implementing socialist policies. In the 10n years since signing on to NAFTA, the Mexican economy has grown by only 1.2 percent


The United States is now faced with the disastrous results from the failure to enforce our immigration laws. We’re stuck with eight to twelve million outlaws. What are we to do? Build walls? Send the Army to the border? Do we deport whole families, leaving many American companies wanting for workers? The answer is yes.


It is not bigotry or hate or lack of compassion to defend of our national sovereignty, our borders, our cultural values, and our way of life. The key word in the great debate is "ILLEGAL" immigrants. Failing to understand this, it will only take a single generation before the United States is unrecognizable, lost to the flood of those who refuse to understand, acknowledge or obey the rule of law that made the United States worth plundering in the first place.


These illegal aliens are the first wave of an assault to erase our national identity, to prepare the United States to accept a borderless North American Union. If our nation fails to meet the challenge and make the difficult decision to maintain ourselves as a sovereign nation, then prepare for our lives to change forever. An America without borders is an America that will cease to exist.


Our federal Government will become a mechanism for filtering the dictates of an unelected governing North American Union Council headed by bureaucrats from all three countries. Our Constitution will be replaced with a new Union Pact. Our free market system will be regulated by the Council. Our tax dollars will be "fairly" divided among the three countries. Our legal system, unmatched in the world, will be transformed. It will be a new order, indeed. The vivid example lies in Europe today where some of the world’s oldest nations have abandoned their currencies, identities, and cultures to the European Union.


Do you want the United States to be a strong, independent, sovereign nation? Or do you want Vicente Fox’s vision of an American Union where the riches of the United States lay open to the ravenous appetites of feeding socialists. This is the real issue the United States faces under the debate called "immigration reform."

We can’t have both. The United States must either take on the difficult job of protecting its borders and national integrity by stopping the flood of illegal immigration or disappear.

http://www.torontofreepress.com/deweese.htm

[knak]

Rocket launcher found in Tijuana drug raid

[JustPiper]

INS China Policy Opens Borders to Asylum Scams
Fox News ^ | Wednesday, February 04, 2004 | Matt Hayes


Posted on 02/04/2004 9:10:04 PM CST by yonif


Immigration judges will tell you that there is a striking resemblance among the asylum cases filed by Chinese nationals. Since 1989, when Congress passed a bill that directed the INS to give "careful consideration" to asylum applicants who expressed a fear of persecution related to China’s "one child" policy (search), Chinese “family planning” cases have been flooding the government’s inboxes like spam.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1071750/posts?

[JustPiper]

U.S. tries to halt surge in Dominican migrants
AP ^ | February 7, 2004 | Paisley Dodds
Posted on 02/07/2004 3:10:12 AM CST by sarcasm

ABOARD THE U.S. COAST GUARD CUTTER KEY BISCAYNE — Authorities last month caught more Dominican boat people than they did in all of last year, signaling growing desperation in a nation struggling through its worst economic crisis in decades.

The surge has prompted the United States to deploy more ships and aircraft in the Caribbean, where short-staffed agencies are expected to do search-and-rescue missions, hunt for drug traffickers, protect fisheries and guard against terrorist threats to cruise ships and oil refineries.

"We're seeing something like we've never seen before," Coast Guard Lt. John Morkan, 35, said yesterday aboard the cutter Key Biscayne as it sliced through whitecapped swells between the Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico. "The means of migrant smuggling have stayed the same, but we're seeing a lot more from the Dominican Republic," he said.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1073281/posts

[JustPiper]

Thanks to MO I'm researching voting laws in my state...ran across an interesting forum, here are some remarks- CL, you need to get this word out on the Ill. board please?:

We don't need no stinking laws, we're Democrats.

Posted by: Howard Veit on January 10, 2004
Just wait: in November, GWB may not be on the ballot in Illinois, because the Repub convention (and therefore Bush's nomination) comes after the state deadline for filing. {{What?!?}}

And the Democrats (who run the People's Republic of Illinois) are not going to relax the rule, which means that GWB would have to be a write-in candidate.

Somewhere, that old {expletive} Richard Daley The Elder is peeing himself with laughter.

Posted by: Kim du Toit on January 10, 2004
There has been an attempt to wave Bush through, but the Donks attached legislation that would have waved fines for several state senators, all Donks, for violating election laws. The original Sun-Times article seems to be gone, but I copied some of it here.

Posted by: Jason on January 10, 2004
Perhaps it's time to give the donks a taste of their own back? If I were a part of the Bush Administration you can bet your {expletive} I'd suggest they look into suing the state of Illinois in the SCOTUS for violation of the voting rights act and anything else I can think of for not including GWB on the ticket and giving the voters of Illinois a "real choice" come election time. Yep, imagine the howls when the Administration's solicitor cites the decision in New Jersey as precedent. I'm almost looking forward to it.

Posted by: Robert Modean on January 11, 2004
Were Illinois a key state for Bush's re-election bid, the Democrats' effort to keep him off the ballot would be critical. As is, the negative publicity the party will get in media outlets in the state that are also picked up in neighboring states of Wisconsin and Iowa will make things even tougher for the eventual Democratic nominee in both places, which were won narrowly by Gore in 2000 and which any Democrat desperatel needs to retain to have a chance in 2004.

Posted by: John on January 11, 2004
I think it can be a smart move on the part of the GOP to have GWB excluded from the Illinois ballots. It would demonstrate that at least one party does actually follow the rules and would provide an endless amount of press for a write-in vote. {{This would work if Tancredo was on the ballot only???}}

It's not like GWB was going to overcome the Democratic political machines in Illinois anyway.
Posted by: charles austin on January 11, 2004

[JustPiper]

Border Patrol) Agent Saves a Life, Only to Lose His On Mexico Border
Washington Post ^ | Feb. 8, 2004 | Kevin Sullivan
Posted on 02/07/2004 11:00:53 PM CST by FairOpinion

Witnesses recalled that Fan (19, an illegal immigrant from China, was in the river trying to sneak into the United States with four Chinese companions and two Mexican smugglers) was drowning in the fast-rushing waters and screaming for help when U.S. Border Patrol Agent James Epling waded into the deep river and carried her to safety. Epling then turned to go catch the others... Divers found Epling's body three days later, drowned at the bottom of the river.

Border Patrol officials said their officers catch an average of 2,500 people a day -- more than 100 an hour -- who, despite sharply increased security since the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, continue to try to sneak across the U.S.-Mexico border. The Border Patrol, a division of the Department of Homeland Security, has 9,800 agents stationed along the border, up from 3,600 a decade ago. That includes 1,300 agents hired since 2000, reflecting a new emphasis on tracking border crossings

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1073740/posts

[JustPiper]

On CSpan Live now!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1076867/posts?page=3

[JustPiper]

Very important 3 hour hearings today from
The Senate Judiciary Committee on CSpan, look for it to be repeated this evening and do not miss it if you can watch it!

The report I posted is here for the blow by blow and then some:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1076867/posts?page=16