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Exactamundo!

Yep. Too bads all those big brains in Davos don't want to directly address this.

Regardless of whether we need more workers in this country, there is a right way and a wrong to handle immigration.

The right way is to institute strict controls and adhere to the regulations that are set forth. Screen out those who are criminals, those are completely uneducated, or have nothing to offer our society other than a desire to earn some money to send home to family. Screen out those unwilling to learn and embrace our language and culture.

Yes - I am crass enough to suggest that an immigrant should be required to offer us something. By controlling the numbers and by controlling the countries and cultures of origin we can better provide for assimilation and continue the American melting pot. It is suicidal to allow Balkanization of our society that results from uncontrolled immigration.

The wrong way is to just open the floodgates and let an illegal invasion occur - just as is being done now. No control over the qualifications of immigrants. All who invade in this manner are by definition criminal.

We cannot afford to let uncontrolled illegal immigration contribute to the destruction of our society and in essence bring our country down to the level of those countries the invaders are fleeing.

I've been getting my butt kicked in this forum for a very long time trying to educate people on this. The U.S. not only has to deal with the declining birth rates, but to boot, we kill a million fetuses yearly.

Then, to make matter worse, the baby boomers are retiring in droves, and picking up speed, so the population is graying rapidly, while we simultaneously extend life expectancy.

To maintain Social Security viable, there needs to be a workers to retiree ratio that we are not achieving, thus the increases in immigration, both legal and illegal.

Government estimates project that by the year 2050, we could allow the entire working age population of Mexico into the U.S., and it would not be enough to maintain today's worker to retiree ratio.

The one glimmer of light in the whole thing, is that Europe has Muslims to repopulate itself with, we have Central and South American Hispanics...the only place in the world where Muslims decreased in number in the past decade.

Bush's immigration plan seems to be the American response to this bitter reality. Think all the angry FReepers here seething against illegal immigrants will ever put two and two together and realize its their own contracepting and aborting culture which has caused that which they detest?

Quite correct, W is trying to clean up the problem caused since the 60s. Plus, I'd rather have a devout, Christianpeople like Mexicans coming in here than slmmmmmmmmies.

"Think all the angry FReepers here seething against illegal immigrants will ever put two and two together and realize its their own contraceptive and aborting culture which has caused that which they detest?"

Generally speaking, we, as a people, are not real good about accepting personal responsibility for our own actions, and we play word games to avoid facing those responsibilities.

The concept of "choice" versus "life" in the abortion issue is a perfect example...the people defending "choice" in the abortion issue, have self-imposed blinders, they will not admit that the "choice" was made at the moment that they engaged in an activity which normally leads to pregnancy, and what they call "choice", is the right to murder the result of their "choice" to conceive carelessly. In other words, they defend their right not to live by their choices, and to murder others to avoid any possibility of it.

In a moral country, populated with people who face up to the consequences of their choices in a responsible manner, there would be no need for legislation addressing the issue of abortion, because truly moral people would never entertain the idea of murdering a fetus.

Then, we moan and groan about the actions of the politicians in D.C., without once bothering to acknowledge that we sent them there, and I mean "we" as a people.

If we have a leftist-leaning government, it's because we sent an inordinate number of politicians with leftist ideals to D.C.

Bush's immigration plan seems to be the American response to this bitter reality.

I have thought the same thing. As Teddy Roosevelt said: "If you do not believe in your own stock enough to see the stock kept up, then you are not good Americans, you are not patriots, and ... I for one shall not mourn your extinction; and in such event I shall welcome the advent of a new race that will take your place, because you wil have shown that you are not fit to cumber the ground."

Think all the angry FReepers here seething against illegal immigrants will ever put two and two together and realize its their own contracepting and aborting culture which has caused that which they detest?

I have to laugh when guys like Bob Grant (host on 710 WOR in NYC) who are conservative but pro-abortion complain bitterly about illegal "invaders." It's those "invaders" who are the only reason we have positive population growth in this country. Without population growth, we will not have prolonged economic growth. If our population begins to contract, we'll have an economic catastrophe on our hands.

Can anyone name me one nation in world history that had economic prosperity along with a shrinking population??

As for Bush's plan, I don't like the idea of giving those who came in illegally a pass. They broke the law. Personally, I think I'd be ok with it if the amnesty was accompanied by some sort of fine--say $500 per person. Then, at least, there'd be some penalty involved.