Mexican-illegals flow rises 66% in 12 years

WorldNetDaily ^ | January 26, 2004

[Map Kernow]

This flood of illegal immigrants is the result of a series of policy mistakes over the past 12 years, including the years GW's been in office.

How will another mistake help?

[brianl703]

Probably accounts for the fact that 12 years ago, in this exact town, nobody spoke spanish. Now you hear it every day.

[Zipporah]

Bush's proposal has been reported is on hold for this year.. this sounds like good news but the real news (and it's bad) is that Mexicans will be encouraged all the more by Bush's mention of it in the State of the Union address. It will be interesting to see what the rate of illegals immigrating raises to in the next year.

[luvbach1]

Wouldn't be so bad if they spoke English too. I'm reminded of a time in McDonald's when I had occasion to ask for salt. After several attempts, I switched to sal (Spanish for salt to you northern gringos), whereupon there was immediate comprehension. Salt apparently was not close enough.

[Zipporah]

Ping

[luvbach1]

Mexicans will be encouraged all the more by Bush's mention of it in the State of the Union address.

If I'm not mistaken, don't think he mentioned it. I wonder why? But they already have all the encouragement they need.

[mgist]

My husband amd I were debating Bush's merits. He is an attorney and therefore exposed to a lot of liberal leaning people. I explained to him what the President is doing with homeland security and that he is trying to create the immigrant proposal to document the illegal immigrants who are here to work. He claims that in his practice he sees more people that are jailed and deported for not having proper papers than ever before, accusing Bush of harrassing minorities. I'm not sure if that is statistically true, but I'm sure it's one of many accusations among the liberal crowds against Bush. Thank God Bush does not go along with the "round 'em up and shoot 'em" crowd. Otherwise we will have no chance in the next election. President Bush is truly a compassionate conservative. If he wasn't the mud would stick and we would lose the confidence of many independents.

[Zipporah]

What I meant was ...the mere mention of his proposal.. Mexicans think it's a done deal.. and without securing the borders and allocating the funds, I would hate to venture to guess what the rate of increase will be.

[Map Kernow]

Otherwise we will have no chance in the next election. President Bush is truly a compassionate conservative. If he wasn't the mud would stick and we would lose the confidence of many independents.

Well, as long as he gets as many independents by this amnesty plan as he's going to lose in conservative votes, he has nothing to worry about, does he?

As Laura Ingraham said about the Bush amnesty plan: "Now I know the definition of 'compassionate conservative:' a person who campaigns as a conservative, then sells out key conservative principles."

[mgist]

The president is not offering amnesty. He is offering documentation. America will always be a land of immigrants. My conservative principals don't include denying basic rights, to people who are here to work, and otherwise don't hurt other people. We have serious issues to deal with such as drugs, UN, terrorism etc.

[Map Kernow]

The president is not offering amnesty. He is offering documentation.

Of course he's offering amnesty! It doesn't matter what you call it: offering legalization to illegal entrants is "amnesty."

America will always be a land of immigrants.

What is this piece of fluff supposed to mean? America is a country of laws, which include immigration laws, which have to be enforced. A nation without control over its own borders or who enters its borders is not a nation in any meaningful sense.

My conservative principals don't include denying basic rights, to people who are here to work, and otherwise don't hurt other people.

*SIGH* "Conservative principles.." You think it's "conservative" to accord "basic rights" to people who have entered, remained and are employed here in violation of the immigration laws? I'm sorry I can't agree with you. And please do a little research on the massive problem we have in this country with violent crime committed by illegal aliens. Here's an article I posted just last night on the subject. It's certainly not terribly "compassionate" of you to ignore the impact illegal immigrant violent crime is having on your fellow citizens.

We have serious issues to deal with such as drugs, UN, terrorism etc.

"Drugs"? You don't think illegal immigrants bring in a lot of drugs and drug crime? "Terrorism"? You don't think lax immigration enforcement led to the 9/11 atrocities?

Do a little research before your next "talking points" post, please.

[WayneM]

Wrong! America has always been a land of immigrants. But not a land of lawbreaking invaders. It is absolutely outlandish for you to claim the invaders do no harm to our society.

He proposes to offer documentation to people who are now here illegally (in other words, criminals who have already demonstrated no respect for the law).

His proposal would greatly increase the number of "guest worker" by allowing family members to qualify for work.

He proposes to raise my local and state taxes in order to pay for the social benefits the "guest workers" would qualify for. This includes welfare, free medical care at the emergency room of their choice, schooling, etc.)

He proposes to maintain and accelerate the downward trend in wages of the poorest of American citizens by forcing them to compete in the job market with guest workers willing to live 10-12 to a house.

He proposes to force more local spending on ESL classes which are rapidly replacing accelerated and enhancement classes in local schools.

He proposes that I, the taxpayer, subsidize the low wages paid by Tyson, Conagra, and all the other corporate employers of these "guest workers" with my tax money.

Sorry. Nobody here believes you, or Bush, or Hagel and Daschel. We know the truth when we hear it, and about the only place we are hearing it these days is from Tom Tancredo.

[RepublicanHippy]

"and otherwise don't hurt other people. We have serious issues to deal with such as drugs, UN, terrorism etc."

Half the people in California prisons are illegals who commited crimes such as robbery and rape - that's not hurting people? What about the damage they are doing to our infrastructure - the drain on our economy to support their deadbeat a$$$es - the fact that they are bankrupting our hospitals and sucking off our welfare system? Doesn't this matter to you? They are also responsible for a lot of the drug problem in this country and who knows how many "terrorists" are sneaking over the borders with your sweet innocent illegals. Pull your head out - we don't need any more illegal, unskilled welfare bums in this country!

[joesnuffy]

El Presidente Jorge Arbusto...abre los ojos por favor.....

[joesnuffy]

You betcha this is an open door to the Latin & South American narco terrorists who are now in league with the Russian Mafia (KGB GRU) the Red Chinese, Whabists al-Qaeda, and the Marxists of Cuba, Venzueala,Brazil et al...

The so called poor wretches coming to America to find work that no other Americans are willing to do is myth...it is the myth the rest are cloaked behind...

And Homie Land security isnt aware of this?....

[Map Kernow]

...abre los ojos por favor...

Y cierra la boca! I don't want to hear anything more from Jorge about immigration except, "My 'willing worker' amnesty proposal was a mistake, and I hereby withdraw it. Instead, I ask an appropriation to expedite deportation of illegal aliens, starting with those convicted of serious crimes, and to tighten security at the borders of the United States."

I'd run to the polls to vote for him in November if he said that!

[Exton1]

Wrong, we have not been a country of immigrants since about 1778. The majority of the population has always been born here. We are a unique country with one culture, but are multi ethnic. IF you go back far enough, you will find that people have moved into every country of the world.

[Map Kernow]

We have serious issues to deal with such as...UN...

Oh, I'm sorry, ma'am---did you say you were concerned about the UN?

Well, maybe you'd be interested in this article that appeared in the "mainstream conservative" Washington Times on January 18: "The Bush administration has begun issuing grants to help spread a United Nations-sponsored school program that aims to become a 'universal curriculum' for teaching global citizenship, peace studies and equality of world cultures."

"United Nations"? Say, isn't that what you meant by "UN"? And why is your guy Bush introducing a UN sponsored program into our schools? Is that a move designed to bring in independents too?

Pardon me, ma'am, but I really don't think there's anything "conservative" about your "principals."

[Missouri]

PING>

[SandRat]

That's an under count if you ask those of us on the border.