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"FOUR MORE WARS...!" Let's co-opt this anti-Bush slogan and use it to support the Bush war record
January 25, 2004 | Paul Klenk

Posted on 01/25/2004 8:37:36 PM PST by paulklenk

THOUGHT FOR THE DAY

Recently I visited a rather lame anti-Bush site. It was selling T-shirts and caps with anti-Bush slogans.

One of the slogans actually made me laugh. It reads:

FOUR MORE WARS!

I fully support the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Furthermore, I would, on general principle, support more wars in the Middle East. We need to depose as many dictators and Saudi princes as we can. The world would be a better, safer place. I know the left hates this idea, but it's time they grew up and dealt with life.

The entire free world should rise up and declare war on all dictators, and we should free any populations who are not yet free.

I'm proud of GWB's war record, and look forward to four more years of Bush, especially if that means...

...FOUR MORE WARS!

Do you agree?


TOPICS: War on Terror; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: antibush; bush; foreignpolicyforkids; next; probush; soccermoms
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Comment #61 Removed by Moderator

To: Mr. Mojo
"I don't know about four (it could be more), but these are battles, not wars. .......battles in the War on Islamists and the nations that sponsor them."

Yeah, it all started in 610 when Muhammad had vision...

62 posted on 01/25/2004 11:05:21 PM PST by endthematrix (To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
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To: Yehuda
Did you forget the /sarcasm off tag?

Actually I did, thank you.

63 posted on 01/25/2004 11:21:52 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (All Our Base Are Belong To Dubya)
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To: Burkeman1
You don't have to be draft bait to argue for war. I am not for any more wars either, but just because a hawk is safely out of draft range doesn't mean his point is invalid. GWB and Dick Cheney aren't going to be drafted--are they wrong?
64 posted on 01/25/2004 11:22:43 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (When law is used to promote inequity, those oppressed will inevitably use it to turn the tables.)
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To: paulklenk
Would this be a solid difference between us and the libs? We would die for freedom (even if we don't get to experience it ourselves) and they would not. Hmmmm... Which side is more like Moses and Martin Luther King??
65 posted on 01/25/2004 11:34:52 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Burkeman1
I happened to catch your post and thought I would also answer your questions:

1) Yes I fully support this war and further wars in the Middle East. I will provide justification for the war with Iraq in my comments below. Regarding the terrorist supporting and funding nations of Syria and Iran. The world would be a much safer/stable place were both of these regimes toppled by US military action. Outside of the ME, the quicker we deal with North Korea, the safer you and your children will sleep at night.

2) As for the draft, yes I support it. As a Vietnam vet who served in the theater after being drafted on my birthday and a student of history, I have come to understand that were it not for the draft, Americans would have been subjugated by Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany. We owe our freedom to the thousands upon thousands of men who were drafted into service. As a side note, the war in Vietnam was a just cause/war unfortunately; the powers that be did not have the fortitude to do what was necessary to win. As a direct consequence of their actions, the whole country was subjugated and turned into one giant prison camp under communism, the result being the immediate death of thousands of "intellectuals" and people who believed in God. Today the misery continues as Christians and others of faith within the people’s paradise of communist Vietnam are persecuted, tortured and put to death.

3) I am 52, as for bodies killed due to violence, yes, over a million (see below for details)

In closing, you are delusional if you fail to realize that there are times throughout history when nations, in order to preserve the safety of their populations or in order to rescue the populations of another nation from the tyranny of an aggressor or from the self destructive actions of it's own leader have had to go to and endure war in order to save lives and liberate those incapable of delivering themselves.

Historical Justification For War With Iraq

G. S., Ph.D.

People talk about the "cost of war" but fail to discuss the cost of inaction. "Those who do not LEARN from history are bound to repeat it."

The nay-sayers and liberal media "talking heads" are screaming, "Why should we go to war with Iraq?" "What is the justification for taking preemptive action?" "We must not upset the apple cart in the Middle East" The answer to all of these questions is simple: History teaches us we must take action before tens, hundreds of thousands or millions of Americans die as a direct result of our inaction.

While teaching this Spring at a University in St. Petersburg, Russia I took the time to go to Piskaryovsoye Cemetery, a mass graveyard outside the city of St. Petersburg, Russia. I purposely went there as a visceral, visual reminder of what happens when people, leaders and nations of the world try to appease/make peace with or otherwise ignore madmen bent on world conquest and domination.

This site contains over 186 mass graves. I know because I took the time to count each of them and to solemnly ponder their contents. THERE ARE OVER 490,000 PEOPLE BURIED THERE! People just like you and I, people who once lived, breathed, love and dreamed of bright futures for themselves and their children. Over 900, 000 people died in the city of St. Petersburg alone (200, 000 just in Jan-Feb 1942) and MOST of them were civilians; women and children.

All of this happened because the leaders of the world, including Stalin, sought to appease a little madman who amassed weapons and an army in order to dominate his neighbors and the World, by the name of Adolph Hitler.

A week later I went to London and visited the Imperial War Museum. There, encased in glass I saw the actual Munich Pact letter signed by Hitler and Chamberlain in which Hitler "promised" in writing to end his aggression... promises always look good in writing. After the meeting Adolf Hitler said: "Our enemies are little worms. I saw them at Munich."

Neville Chamberlain waved the letter before the English press and the world and said: "...My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honor. I believe it is peace for our time. Go home and get a nice quiet sleep." -- Neville Chamberlain, September 30, 1938.

Europe believed his hollow promises and went back to sleep. They tried to "contain" and "appease" Hitler, the exact same advice people who ignore reality are giving us today regarding Saddam... the result; HE ATTACKED THEM ANYWAY AND 80 MILLION PEOPLE DIED IN THE PROCESS... people like you and me, people like your children, your husbands, your wives, your grandparents.

Like Hitler, Saddam has given his word and made a multitude of promises for the sole purpose of keeping us from stopping his WMD programs and his ultimate aims for aggression. The World needs to be reminded that to date HE HAS KEPT NONE OF THEM. History teaches us this lesson; if we do not deal with and stop Saddam now, the cost will be far, far greater to accomplish this in the future.

So "Why act now?" Because this is the reality of our current situation; Muslim fundamentalists all over the world have declared jihad on America. They want us (civilians, men, women and children) DEAD and are actively plotting to kill, enslave and destroy us. All of this is taking place at the same time Saddam continues to produce weapons grade Anthrax, VX gas, and hastily works on developing nukes and these other "goodies" to give to toady Muslim terrorists to use against America. A report out this week details the "worst case scenario" 3 MILLION DEAD due to the release of 250 pounds of weapons grade Anthrax in either LA or San Francisco.

http://www.bayarea.com/mld/bayarea/3995198.htm

America and it's leaders and people will either learn from history or repeat it. History provides us and our Allies with all the reasons and justification we need to preemptively go to war with Iraq and to rid the world of Saddam. The only other option the is to wait until he or one of his Muslim lackeys hits us and thousands or millions die.

The appeasers advise us to "wait, for “proof” do nothing, to sit around, contain, appease and take Saddam at his word... until we are attacked, the problem is then it will be too late.

America's response must be that of G. BUSH Sr.: 'Sorry, ... NOT GONNA DO IT... WOULDN'T BE PRUDENT!"

History warns us, if we do not deal with this threat now, the next attack, Anthrax, Small pox, dirty bomb, suitcase nuke, etc... (and it is coming if we don't stop them, it is just a matter of time) will make Sept. 11th look like a picnic.

Liberals get all choked up about "innocents" getting killed in Iraq. They fail to mention that 3,000 American innocents were murdered on September 11, 01. WE ARE ALREADY AT WAR, IT IS TIME WE AS A NATION DEFEND OURSELVES.

By the way, I am not some "arm chair general" who never served but is gung-ho to send others off to war (the "straw man argument). I am a former Vietnam vet... USN 68 - 71 who served in the theater of operations. I know the cost of war, but the cost of inaction is, in this case too high to contemplate.

If you don't believe me just take a trip to Piskaryovsoye Cemetery outside of the city of St. Petersburg, Russia. You will not find any names of the dead because there are nearly a half million people buried there; just 186 plus mass graves, each containing a simple marker noting the year those interred in each grave died. This is what we can expect if we do not respond to the "clear and present danger" that Saddam and Muslim fundamentalists represent to America and it's Allies.

66 posted on 01/25/2004 11:42:44 PM PST by Jmouse007 (Tired of the Powell doctrine)
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To: paulklenk
No, I don't agree about rooting for more wars...

Rather than root for more wars, I will root that more of the tinpot dictators will voluntarily enter the civilized world, as Kadaffai recently did.
67 posted on 01/26/2004 12:33:35 AM PST by ambrose
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To: dead
Don't forget the departments of Agriculture, Education, Energy, and Labor!
68 posted on 01/26/2004 4:27:41 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Death is certain; little chance of success; what are we waiting for???)
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To: kingu
Call it Operation Godfather I
69 posted on 01/26/2004 4:34:22 AM PST by johnb838 (Write-In Tancredo in your Republican Primary)
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To: paulklenk
Let's lock arms and march while we sing "Give War A Chance".
70 posted on 01/26/2004 4:35:01 AM PST by Moby Grape
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To: paulklenk
Well, we really ought to put them onto some sort of more constructive hobby than mass murder of innocents, as the lovely Ms. Coulter went on to say.
71 posted on 01/26/2004 4:35:53 AM PST by johnb838 (Write-In Tancredo in your Republican Primary)
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To: eyespysomething
This war has been needing to be fought for a generation. Going through six months or a year of hand-wringing and puling about how much we hate war not only prolongs the agony but gives the enemy too much time to prepare. I know where you're coming from in that it is unbecoming to glorify war, though.
72 posted on 01/26/2004 4:40:19 AM PST by johnb838 (Write-In Tancredo in your Republican Primary)
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To: paulklenk
We need to come up with a catchy slogan such as
the one which originated here on the FR website -
SORE LOSERMAN is the one I refer to here. If
we don't come up with one of our own that's a real
zinger, they will use the FOUR MORE WARS slogan to
drive President Bush into the ground. Sort of like
the IT'S THE ECONOMY, STUPID thing which helped
immensely to elect Clinton.
73 posted on 01/26/2004 4:45:14 AM PST by Twinkie
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To: paulklenk
FOUR MORE WARS

And underneath that, I would put..."Thank God we finally have someone in charge who does not appease, kiss-up-to, and pay 'protection money' to, every tinhorn dictator who demands it."

I think if I were President, I would just send a note to all the Middle East "leaders" and tinhorn dictators that would read:

"America is pulling all of its troops and bases out of your region...but...don't make us have to come back over there!!!!".
74 posted on 01/26/2004 4:49:32 AM PST by FrankR
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To: bigghurtt
HE wants to play the chicken-hawk card. Do you as a warrior, think only veterans should be allowed to support you and what you're doing?

btw burkeman1 has been on the edge of getting banned for years.
75 posted on 01/26/2004 4:49:40 AM PST by johnb838 (Write-In Tancredo in your Republican Primary)
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To: paulklenk
We must remember, however, that these wars will cost lots of money and possibly lots of lives. If we ever want truly low taxes and truly great economic prosperity, it might be wise to put away these war fantasies.
76 posted on 01/26/2004 4:49:56 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Death is certain; little chance of success; what are we waiting for???)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Definitely something the left will never get!! Actually they get it...they just don't want the unwashed masses to get it.
77 posted on 01/26/2004 4:52:36 AM PST by Ga Rob ("Life's tough...it's even tougher when you're stupid"....The Duke)
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To: Jmouse007
THANK YOU!!
78 posted on 01/26/2004 4:59:11 AM PST by Ga Rob ("Life's tough...it's even tougher when you're stupid"....The Duke)
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To: Paleo Conservative
We could let Boy Scouts take Canada.

Just because it's true doesn't mean you have to say it. There are some of us that are with you guys.

79 posted on 01/26/2004 5:13:38 AM PST by AntiKev (I've learned to stop worrying and love the bomb. Why can't THEY?)
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To: Jmouse007
BUMP! ..........preemptive action like unilateral are inappropriate and deliberately misleading buzz words used ad nauseam by reporters and the six presidential candidates, congressmen and senators alike about Iraq – these utterances are stupid, deceptive and fallacious.
80 posted on 01/26/2004 5:59:52 AM PST by yoe (Join STOP Hillary PAC.com 2111 Wilson Blvd #700, Arlington, VA 22201)
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