Where is the John Kerry/Jane Fonda Photo?

[risk]

bttt - Stultis argues (my words): we lost Vietnam in Laos, not in Vietnam. If we had acted on the courage of our convictions, we could have avoided much trouble later. Maybe there is a lesson for us today.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

We won the war and then gave away the victory.

[Squantos]

A little know pipeline out of China into Laos was the Black River.....as was the Red River. Lots of supplies came down that black river.

Stay Safe !

[risk]

A little know pipeline out of China into Laos was the Black River.....as was the Red River. Lots of supplies came down that black river.

This looks like an interesting find:

Salan Strikes At Giap's Supply Lines

I have to say that the Frenchmen in the Directors Cut of Apocalypse now really stirred a sense of comraderie with the French families who had gone to southeast Asia to start businesses and pursue natural resources that were not being used by the natives.

I see a reference to the Red and Black rivers in this timeline of unknown provenance.

[Fledermaus]

You got to believe 'ol John was smoking a lot of doobies back then. Probably dropped a few hits of acid too!

[bootyist-monk]

Google image search for "John Kerry"...

[risk]

And if we had, do you really think there would have been a Sunday, 23 October 1983 or a Tuesday, 11 September, 2001?

[MeekOneGOP]

Well, I just scrolled through this whole thread and don't see the picture you are talking about.

Hey, folks ! Have ya'll seen a picture of the 'F' man and Hanoi Jane together ???

If someone finds it, please PING me to it and I will save and upload it to my website nice and safe for us all to use !!

[MeekOneGOP]

Hey, is that his chosen running-mate if he gets the nomination ?? ...

Welcome aboard the 'F' Troop Express !!

[arasina]

Here's one of Jane Fonda I hadn't seen before (but after having found it, I do remember her little acting troupe). The text accompanying the photo says:

Jane Fonda's activism was highlighted by her appearances and speeches. Her most noted were the infamous Hanoi Radio Broadcasts which were highly publicized by the Vietnamese to lower morale within the US Military. Even before her trip overseas, though, Jane displayed her opinions onstage in her acting company FTA (F**k the Army). The image to the left depicts a scene from one of this company's skits which all contained an antiwar theme.

We have plenty of Hanoi Jane type celebrities today. The big difference is that they now have their war protestor candidate who may be elected president . Al-Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, Fedayeen and others are surely pleased at this prospect.

[Orange1998]

John Kerry THE NEW SOLDIER SIGNED 1st Ed RARE

How about the Signed copy of the book. Going for 1K on Ebay. I would loved to see Kerry face when a reporter hands him the signed book and ask for comments. Priceless!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3582955076&category=13543

[Salvation]

It must have gone up since the email from Newsmax---

1. Kerry's $3.95 Book a $500 Hit

In the unlikely event that you snapped up copies of John "F." Kerry's book "The New Soldier" in 1971, you could make a huge profit today.

NewsMax's investigative report about Sen. Kerry's unusual past sparked a huge response from readers this week. Although we already had posted one, many sent pictures of the hard-to-find book, which features a cover photo of anti-war protesters desecrating the U.S. flag. Kerry tried to suppress copies of the book when he ran for the U.S. House in 1972.

Many readers also told of auction sites selling the embarrassing volume (cover price: $3.95) for hundreds of dollars. As of Friday afternoon, we found that eBay had one copy going for $255 and one signed by the esteemed author for $500.

Amazon lists the book but not the price. A reviewer from Boston gave it one star out of five and wrote: "The upside down flag on the cover of the book symbolizes the Left's feelings for America and the Constitution of the United States. This book reveals a different side of John Kerry, a side everyone should know before they go to the polls.

"However, the book is good to read if you would like to get into the early mind of the New Left, and contemporary radicals, who are disgusted by 'the Bush Doctrine.'"

Amazon notes: "Customers who bought titles by John Kerry also bought titles by these authors: Wesley K. Clark, Stephen E. Lambert, Douglas Brinkley, Howard Dean, Richard Gephardt."

Amazon's sales ranking of the tome: 1,513,725. The company offers a helpful link to publishers and authors on how to "improve your sales," but even though Kerry had to mortgage his mansion to finance his campaign, we doubt he'll take this advice.

[Atlantic Friend]

If this picture is from Salan's period as commander-in-chief of the Expeditionary Corps, then the picture is around 1953, after De Lattre's death.

Before De Lattre, in 1948-49 if I'm not mistaken, the French troops launched a combined operation with Marines, Legion and Paratroops. Because the operation couldn't be done secretly, the communists were warned and the airborne troops missed Ho-Chi-Minh by 30 goddamn minutes. Many things would have been quite different in Southeast Asia had uncle Ho not escaped.

[risk]

French Indochina history bump

[madison10]

I have found the book at a local library and will be checking it out. Have you looked at a library? At least you could get a look at a copy. Laura Ingraham said today that the book is also disappearing from library shelves. Odd that.

[DeSoto]

I haven't tried the library, we live 1 mile outside the city limits and they want $50 for a library card. For that kind of money we decided to not pay it, and use the $50 that we would have spent to buy books at the used book store. That supports local businesses instead of the library/extortion-ring and allows us a lot of freedom.

(Of course living outside the city also cuts our property taxes by more than $2,500 per year, so it works out) 8^)

I intended to search the used book stores early this week but have been fighting a sinus infection. But I intend to look later this week.

Thanks for all your efforts. Perhaps you could excerpt some the the most interesting quotes. It would be very interesting to see.

[Eva]

Thanks, I bookmarked it for future reference.

[pointsal]

johnny k.....have you drive across any little bridges in Mass.?

[tet68]

Lest we forget this is the organization that Kerry was part of.

In 69 I knew a guy that said he was part of the start of VVAW, but I can't remember his name, said he was a former SEAL whatever that meant.(meaning I don't know if he was or not.) Will try to rack my brain, it's only been 35 years.
Jim something. Sears maybe????

At that time I was asked to testify at a "Viet Nam War Crimes Tribunal" held at Georgia State University, they may have gotten my name from him.
I told them I'd be glad to come testify about VC atrocities
but they weren't interested in that. Imagine!

Some one should ask Kerry what he thinks about these objectives NOW.

From "The 1st Casualty" - Volume 2, number 1 (July 1972)


To demand an immediate cessation of fighting and the withdrawal of all American troops, planes, and military and economic aid from Indochina. We cannot allow one more human being to be killed in Southeast Asia.

To demand the immediate termination of all other operations by the United States government, its agencies, and American business interests that are designed to suppress the rightful struggle for liberation and self-determination of the Peoples of Africa, Asia, and Latin America. This includes the maintenance of dictatorial governments, economic domination, and the theft of the natural resources of other countries.

To demand that all active-duty servicemen and women be afforded the same rights that are guaranteed by the United States Constitution and Bill of Rights that are presently denied by the Uniform Code of Military Justice. We are appalled that our active-duty GIs are treated as less than first class citizens. We endorse the efforts of our active-duty sisters and brothers to democratize the military.

To support all military personnel refusing to serve against their consciences in wars at home and abroad. We demand that Congress enact legislation for the immediate repatriation of those brothers and sisters who are in prison or in self-exile by reason of their refusal to serve in the military. It must also involve an end to all repression and a freeing of all political prisoners.

To demand there be no distinctions as to types of discharges and that a single type of discharge be issued, and that this be retroactive. We also demand all veterans receive all rights and benefits under the VA; and that compensation for disabilities be based solely upon the degree of disability for veterans and their families, without regard to sex, race, rank or length of service.

To make clear that the United States of America has never undertaken an extensive open investigation of American war crimes in Indochina. We demand that the United States government, in its war in Indochina, affirm the principles of Nuremberg. As active-duty and former GIs we recognize the responsibility and guilt of the individual soldier to refrain from committing war crimes. We also recognize that the responsibility and guilt of war crimes committed in the name of America lies with our policy makers at all levels.

To show Americans that our society is permeated by racism, which manipulates whites into viewing non-whites as inferior or less than human. This racism pushes Third World People through inferior schools to inferior jobs and into combat arms. Thus Third World People are sent off to die in disproportionately high numbers as we kill Asians indiscriminately. We also demand the U.S. military recognize its complicity in America's domestic and international racism.

To show that sexism plays a major part in promoting war. We must show Americans our society is permeated by sexism, which forces an inferior status upon women, reducing them to subservient sexual objects, and which robs both men and women of their natural growth. This institutionalized sexism channels women into unfulfilling, lower-paying jobs which are servile in nature and purpose; it exploits their bodies for sex and profit; and it degrades and dehumanizes them by a double standard of morality wholly dependent on the myth of male supremacy. This sexism is exploited by the military, officially defining servicewomen as subordinate and thoroughly subjugating them to servile work and the role of a sexual object. We resolve to fight sexism within our society, within our own organization, and within ourselves.

To dedicate ourselves to these principles and objectives which directly relate to the imperialist suppression of the People of the World by the United States government. We understand this war is imperialist in origin and affirm that the membership of VVAW is not only concerned with ending this war, but with changing the domestic, social, political and economic institutions that have caused and perpetuated its continuance.

[risk]

And they thought that without the UCMJ there would be a lower risk of atrocities?