[wardaddy]

I recieved this at my office from Mikes yesterday while I was unfortunately out doing other business. I had no idea this was up.

This is a huge problem for folks like myself who enjoy cigars. If we cannot buy them mail order, the local purveyors will exploit that beyond relief.

I searched for any other related posts and found nothing except one about a lawsuit by the Seneca Indians regarding online tobacco sales.

I suggest anyone who enjoys smoking cigars to follow up on this and hopefully so will non cigar enthusiasts already tired of the nanny state in many other areas.

[wardaddy]

I hope I'm not the only FReeper who enjoys stogies or cares about this meddling.

[per loin]

Luckily we have the Republicans in power, and as men of principle, they'd allow no such bill to pass.

[ml/nj]

I searched for any other related posts and found nothing except one about a lawsuit by the Seneca Indians regarding online tobacco sales.

Congress to Ban Mail Order Cigar Purchases!! (Action Needed TODAY!!!!)

ML/NJ

[Khurkris]

I called and registered my dismay with a couple of the folks above. I am a regular Thompsons customer since Cali went nuts a few years back.

[razorback-bert]

What about shipping UPS?

I am sitting awaiting a shipment from Thompson's right now.


My local cigar store charges twice the Thompson's price.

[ChefKeith]

HEY! over here with Your ping list.

[Doe Eyes]

The next stage will be a series of reports linking internet cigar sales to terrorists.

[Mr. Mojo]

Yep, I was going to post this last night right after I received a similiar email for my cigar source -- JR Cigar.

My state (WA) has a 75% cigar tax, so ordering from JR has saved me at least $100 per box (on Macanudos, Partagas, Fuentes).

I was surprised they alerted me to so late though, considering the vote was supposed to be today (although it's now postponed 'till next week).

[BurbankKarl]

hmm...

the Armenian Mafia has been busy in Socal ripping off cigar places.... there is a new headline every week!

[Cultural Jihad]

BTTT

[L_Von_Mises]

I have read through the entire bill and the ammendments and I can find no reference to cigars. Am I overlooking something? The Senate bill refers to cigarrettes and smokeless tobacco where cigarettes are defined as:

`(2) The term `cigarette' means--

`(A) any roll of tobacco wrapped in paper or in any substance not containing tobacco which is to be heated or burned;

`(B) any roll of tobacco wrapped in any substance containing tobacco that, because of its appearance, the type of tobacco used in the filler, or its packaging or labeling, is likely to be offered to, or purchased by, consumers as a cigarette described in subparagraph (A);

`(C) any roll of tobacco wrapped in any substance that because of its appearance, the type of tobacco used in the filler, or its packaging or labeling, is likely to be offered to, or purchased by, consumers as a cigarette; or

`(D) loose rolling tobacco that, because of its appearance, type, packaging, or labeling, is likely to be offered to, or purchased by, consumers as tobacco for making cigarettes.

`(3) The term `smokeless tobacco' means any finely cut, ground, powdered, or leaf tobacco that is intended to be placed in the oral or nasal cavity or otherwise consumed without being combusted.'; This definition seems to explicitly rule cigars out.

It also does not prohibit mail order sales, it just states that you have to pay your local tax. As a residence of Virginia that would have no impact one me but would impact people living in most other states.

They use the typical "It's for the children" argument where it is really a money grab at taxes they are losing to sales from low or no tax states. But Liddy Dole is one of the co-sponsors and she is from North Carolina where JRs is located so my only conclusion about her is my first impression - she is a twit. (vent) There are a couple of online retailers that I buy my VSGs and Anniversarios from, which are difficult to find locally at times so I stock up on boxes when these few online retailers have them. So if it is a ban I would like to know for sure.

Basically, before I call my congressman I just want to make sure I have the correct interpretation.

[chilepepper]

Damn... it just passed.

[Squantos]

Gonna have to search for a purdy cuban lady with virgin thighs to roll my baccy into ceeeegars for me ! Of course she'll have to be smokin ! Albeit I'll get by I guess as I have never smoked. My vice is loose wimmin and whiskey ! But I'll yank my congresscritters chain for ya just the same !

Stay Safe !

[Clemenza]

Who ever pushed this asinine infrigement on my rights should be forced to sit in a room (size of a typical above-store studio apartment) with me and the old guys from my local cigar shop as we puff away on a coupla' boxes of Don Diego Playboys for a three day smokeathon. By the 10th minute, he would throw himself out the window!

[Joe Hadenuf]

Our ever growing big government at work.

[wardaddy]

I just called every Pubbie's office on the HJC all morning. Their folks were of course all very nice....particularly the sweet girl at Marsha Blackburn's office (mine) and everyone of them knew immediately what I was calling about when I said bill 2824 and said that no Pubbie on that committee supported the cigar language and a few offered that it was well known from the top Pubbies in the House that this bill with that language would not fly in the House..no way.

We shall see. Maybe they were blowing smoke up my arse. A few volunteered that several of the Congressmen were themsleves stogie lovers or had family members in an uproar over this.

I told them that while we were small in numbers that we were overwhelmingly conservative. They all said they knew that.

No one knew who or how the language got into the Senate bill.

Regards All.

[stainlessbanner]

Good thing our representatives are discussing important issues like mail order cigars.

[freekitty]

Haven'[t thise jerks got something better to do than run some poor guy who is trying to make a decent and honest living.

BTW, I am already furious that America's elected are living the American Dream while I'm not. But, I am pretty sure I'm paying for it.

[Smokin' Joe]

Yikes! I have no local cigar store, not for 250 miles!

[Old Fud]

I received a letter from JR attempting to preempt problems by requesting a photo copy ID. Is this about underage purchasing or just general gooberment meddling?