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So you think George W. Bush is not a conservative?
SOTU transcript ^ | 1/22/04

Posted on 01/22/2004 7:07:09 AM PST by Wolfstar

ED. NOTE: On Tuesday evening, January 20, 2004, the President of the United States gave one of the most conservative State of the Union addresses in at least a generation. For a SOTU speech, it had a remarkably short spending wish list. Instead, it had passages such as those excerpted below — none of which would have been spoken by a Democrat or liberal (i.e., Leftist), or even a "RINO." Check it out:

[BEGIN EXCERPTS: Bold/underscore emphasis by Wolfstar]

Our greatest responsibility is the active defense of the American people. Twenty-eight months have passed since September 11th, 2001 — over two years without an attack on American soil. And it is tempting to believe that the danger is behind us. That hope is understandable, comforting — and false.

[SNIP]

The once all-powerful ruler of Iraq was found in a hole, and now sits in a prison cell. Of the top 55 officials of the former regime, we have captured or killed 45. Our forces are on the offensive, leading over 1,600 patrols a day and conducting an average of 180 raids a week. We are dealing with these thugs in Iraq, just as surely as we dealt with Saddam Hussein's evil regime.

Because of American leadership and resolve, the world is changing for the better. Last month, the leader of Libya voluntarily pledged to disclose and dismantle all of his regime's weapons of mass destruction programs, including a uranium enrichment project for nuclear weapons.

[SNIP]

Nine months of intense negotiations involving the United States and Great Britain succeeded with Libya, while 12 years of diplomacy with Iraq did not. And one reason is clear: For diplomacy to be effective, words must be credible, and no one can now doubt the word of America.

Many of our troops are listening tonight. And I want you and your families to know: America is proud of you. And my administration, and this Congress, will give you the resources you need to fight and win the war on terror.

I know that some people question if America is really in a war at all. They view terrorism more as a crime, a problem to be solved mainly with law enforcement and indictments. After the World Trade Center was first attacked in 1993, some of the guilty were indicted and tried and convicted, and sent to prison. But the matter was not settled. The terrorists were still training and plotting in other nations, and drawing up more ambitious plans. After the chaos and carnage of September the 11th, it is not enough to serve our enemies with legal papers. The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States, and war is what they got.

[SNIP]

Some critics have said our duties in Iraq must be internationalized. This particular criticism is hard to explain to our partners in Britain, Australia, Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, Thailand, Italy, Spain, Poland, Denmark, Hungary, Bulgaria, Ukraine, Romania, the Netherlands — (applause) — Norway, El Salvador, and the 17 other countries that have committed troops to Iraq. As we debate at home, we must never ignore the vital contributions of our international partners, or dismiss their sacrifices.

From the beginning, America has sought international support for our operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, and we have gained much support. There is a difference, however, between leading a coalition of many nations, and submitting to the objections of a few. America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country.

We also hear doubts that democracy is a realistic goal for the greater Middle East, where freedom is rare. Yet it is mistaken, and condescending, to assume that whole cultures and great religions are incompatible with liberty and self-government. I believe that God has planted in every human heart the desire to live in freedom. And even when that desire is crushed by tyranny for decades, it will rise again.

[SNIP]

In the last three years, adversity has also revealed the fundamental strengths of the American economy. We have come through recession, and terrorist attack, and corporate scandals, and the uncertainties of war. And because you acted to stimulate our economy with tax relief, this economy is strong, and growing stronger.

You have doubled the child tax credit from $500 to $1,000, reduced the marriage penalty, begun to phase out the death tax, reduced taxes on capital gains and stock dividends, cut taxes on small businesses, and you have lowered taxes for every American who pays income taxes.

Americans took those dollars and put them to work, driving this economy forward. The pace of economic growth in the third quarter of 2003 was the fastest in nearly 20 years; new home construction, the highest in almost 20 years; home ownership rates, the highest ever. Manufacturing activity is increasing. Inflation is low. Interest rates are low. Exports are growing. Productivity is high, and jobs are on the rise.

These numbers confirm that the American people are using their money far better than government would have — and you were right to return it.

[SNIP]

We're requiring higher standards [in schools]. We are regularly testing every child on the fundamentals. We are reporting results to parents, and making sure they have better options when schools are not performing.

[SNIP]

We must continue to pursue an aggressive, pro-growth economic agenda. Congress has some unfinished business on the issue of taxes. The tax reductions you passed are set to expire. Unless you act — (applause) — unless you act — unless you act, the unfair tax on marriage will go back up. Unless you act, millions of families will be charged $300 more in federal taxes for every child. Unless you act, small businesses will pay higher taxes. Unless you act, the death tax will eventually come back to life. Unless you act, Americans face a tax increase. What Congress has given, the Congress should not take away. For the sake of job growth, the tax cuts you passed should be permanent.

Our agenda for jobs and growth must help small business owners and employees with relief from needless federal regulation, and protect them from junk and frivolous lawsuits.

Consumers and businesses need reliable supplies of energy to make our economy run — so I urge you to pass legislation to modernize our electricity system, promote conservation, and make America less dependent on foreign sources of energy.

My administration is promoting free and fair trade to open up new markets for America's entrepreneurs and manufacturers and farmers — to create jobs for American workers. Younger workers should have the opportunity to build a nest egg by saving part of their Social Security taxes in a personal retirement account. We should make the Social Security system a source of ownership for the American people.

[SNIP]

In two weeks, I will send you a budget that funds the war, protects the homeland, and meets important domestic needs, while limiting the growth in discretionary spending to less than 4 percent. This will require that Congress focus on priorities, cut wasteful spending, and be wise with the people's money. By doing so, we can cut the deficit in half over the next five years.

Tonight, I also ask you to reform our immigration laws so they reflect our values and benefit our economy.

[SNIP]

I oppose amnesty, because it would encourage further illegal immigration, and unfairly reward those who break our laws. My temporary worker program will preserve the citizenship path for those who respect the law, while bringing millions of hardworking men and women out from the shadows of American life.

[ED. NOTE: The precedent for guest worker programs goes back at least to the Eisenhower administration.]

[SNIP]

In January of 2006, seniors can get prescription drug coverage under Medicare. For a monthly premium of about $35, most seniors who do not have that coverage today can expect to see their drug bills cut roughly in half. Under this reform, senior citizens will be able to keep their Medicare just as it is, or they can choose a Medicare plan that fits them best — just as you, as members of Congress, can choose an insurance plan that meets your needs. And starting this year, millions of Americans will be able to save money tax-free for their medical expenses in a health savings account.

[SNIP]

On the critical issue of health care, our goal is to ensure that Americans can choose and afford private health care coverage that best fits their individual needs.

[SNIP]

Small businesses should be able to band together and negotiate for lower insurance rates, so they can cover more workers with health insurance. I urge you to pass association health plans. I ask you to give lower-income Americans a refundable tax credit that would allow millions to buy their own basic health insurance.

[SNIP]

To protect the doctor-patient relationship, and keep good doctors doing good work, we must eliminate wasteful and frivolous medical lawsuits. And tonight I propose that individuals who buy catastrophic health care coverage, as part of our new health savings accounts, be allowed to deduct 100 percent of the premiums from their taxes.

A government-run health care system is the wrong prescription. By keeping costs under control, expanding access, and helping more Americans afford coverage, we will preserve the system of private medicine that makes America's health care the best in the world.

[SNIP]

One of the worst decisions our children can make is to gamble their lives and futures on drugs. Our government is helping parents confront this problem with aggressive education, treatment, and law enforcement. Drug use in high school has declined by 11 percent over the last two years. Four hundred thousand fewer young people are using illegal drugs than in the year 2001.

[SNIP]

A strong America must also value the institution of marriage. I believe we should respect individuals as we take a principled stand for one of the most fundamental, enduring institutions of our civilization. Congress has already taken a stand on this issue by passing the Defense of Marriage Act, signed in 1996 by President Clinton. That statute protects marriage under federal law as a union of a man and a woman, and declares that one state may not redefine marriage for other states.

Activist judges, however, have begun redefining marriage by court order, without regard for the will of the people and their elected representatives. On an issue of such great consequence, the people's voice must be heard. If judges insist on forcing their arbitrary will upon the people, the only alternative left to the people would be the constitutional process. Our nation must defend the sanctity of marriage.

[SNIP]

It's also important to strengthen our communities by unleashing the compassion of America's religious institutions. Religious charities of every creed are doing some of the most vital work in our country — mentoring children, feeding the hungry, taking the hand of the lonely. Yet government has often denied social service grants and contracts to these groups, just because they have a cross or a Star of David or a crescent on the wall. By executive order, I have opened billions of dollars in grant money to competition that includes faith-based charities. Tonight I ask you to codify this into law, so people of faith can know that the law will never discriminate against them again.

[SNIP]

The momentum of freedom in our world is unmistakable — and it is not carried forward by our power alone. We can trust in that greater power who guides the unfolding of the years. And in all that is to come, we can know that His purposes are just and true.

[END EXCERPTS]


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; bushamnesty; sotu
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Yes, like that.

Fools.
741 posted on 01/22/2004 10:50:59 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (I love my Green Bay Packers! GO PATRIOTS!)
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To: ohioWfan
Beautiful, just beautiful. A powerful image that makes the point better than mere words ever could.
742 posted on 01/22/2004 10:51:09 AM PST by Wolfstar (George W. Bush — the 1st truly great world leader of the 21st Century)
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To: af_vet_rr
The question has to be asked - in the "swing" states, did he pick up more votes than he lost since 2000, as well as did he lose any states that were very close and went his way in 2000.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1062330/posts

743 posted on 01/22/2004 10:51:23 AM PST by woodyinscc
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Needs repeating:

Anyone given this choice who would turn this nation and its security over to a Democrat is dangerous, and someone I consider my political enemy.

744 posted on 01/22/2004 10:51:34 AM PST by Howlin
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To: woodyinscc
Apparently you have forgotten the ideology and agenda of those he must defeat.!

I haven't forgotten HIS ideology and agenda. I'm not interested in big government intrusion. I like my first amendment rights. I like my privacy. I like the enforcement of immigration laws. I like my private schools private. I like the government to abstain from getting involved in having children piss in bottles.

745 posted on 01/22/2004 10:52:10 AM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: ravingnutter
It was not a disruptor and considering the fact that 35% of illegal aliens are on some form of government assitance and most of them get paid under the table I have no doubts they will be able to come up with $1,500 easier than I would.
746 posted on 01/22/2004 10:52:20 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Constitution party here I come. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: Protagoras
"This stuff is shrill and goofy."

Thanks! What a relief. I thought you were referring to the desire for national security as shrill and goofy.
747 posted on 01/22/2004 10:53:22 AM PST by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: ohioWfan
You forgot to mention Al Sharpton....... One could always write him in....

I'm voting for W.

748 posted on 01/22/2004 10:53:48 AM PST by b4its2late (A bartender is just a pharmacist with a limited inventory.)
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To: Tamsey; PhiKapMom
Re your 635, very well stated, Tamsey. Could not agree with you more.
749 posted on 01/22/2004 10:53:53 AM PST by Wolfstar (George W. Bush — the 1st truly great world leader of the 21st Century)
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To: m1-lightning
"My administration will work with the Congress to increase the annual number of green cards that can lead to citizenship. "

That quote can no way be interpreted as "I will give illegal immigrants citizenship in the future".

That's not even the relevant quote. Here:

Some temporary workers will make the decision to pursue American citizenship. Those who make this choice will be allowed to apply in the normal way. They will not be given unfair advantage over people who have followed legal procedures from the start.
Text of Bush immigration speech
President outlines plan to give illegals legal status

The normal way is to get a green card, wait five years, then become a citizen.

So, under the Bush Amnesty, "temporary workers," millions of whom would be legalized-Illegals, "will be allowed to apply in the normal way" for U.S. citizenship.

So, the Bush Amnesty would put Illegals on the path to U.S. citizenship, it just wouldn't be "automatic," which is the operative word to be parsed in this bit of Bush/Rove harisplitting:

I opposed amnesty, placing undocumented workers on the automatic path to citizenship. Granting amnesty encourages the violation of our laws and perpetuates illegal immigration.
Text of Bush immigration speech
President outlines plan to give illegals legal status

The difference between "automatic path to citizenship" and Illegal Alien eligibility for a non-automatic path to citizenship under the Bush Amnesty is the need for a blue card before a green card. That's it.


750 posted on 01/22/2004 10:54:20 AM PST by Sabertooth (Pakistani Illegal Aliens Deport Themselves - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1058591/posts)
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To: Howlin
I bet you never voted for him in the first place.

You need to read my original posting again.

And I love the way you insinuated that if we don't agree with you, we're in favor of socialism.

The standard Bushbot argument is "if you don't vote for Dubya you're helping elect a democrat". My point is that Bush is more dangerous than a democrat. If you truly want limited govt, then the best you can hope for is gridlock. Some people believe that by voting GWB they are voting the lesser of two evils because they are comparing GWB to whoever the Dems will nominate. That is not what one should compare. What they need to compare is the Bush administration with a Rep congress vs. a Dem administration with a Rep congress. I think we fare better with the latter.

751 posted on 01/22/2004 10:54:27 AM PST by Nanodik (Libertarian, Ex-Canadian)
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To: Ophiucus
You need to re-read before you post. I never addressed the popularity polls. I reject the claim that 91% of Republicans support his policies as a BLANKET STATEMENT. It's a fairy tale until someone can prove it, and so far, no one has come close.
752 posted on 01/22/2004 10:55:02 AM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: Mo1
"do you think it's wrong to have accountability from the schools the make sure our kids are learning?"

Not at all, but that is a minor part of the bill. How about doing a major overhaul of the system instead of just throwing more money at it?

How about the AWB? How about defending the Constitution? How about denouncing the USSC ruling on those guys from Texas? How about not applauding the USSC ruling on the U of M case about affirmative action? How about dragging feet on getting pilots trained for having guns in cockpits?

Yes, Bush has done a decent job as far as National Security and the WOT. Some issues need to be resolved still. He has done a decent job on taxes. Doing ok on turning around the economy, but there are still questions in regards to jobs.
753 posted on 01/22/2004 10:55:32 AM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: My2Cents; onyx
I feel my pain
754 posted on 01/22/2004 10:55:33 AM PST by Neets (Dean Campaign Slogan: "I was endorsed by AlGore, and all I got was an anxiety attack- YEEEEAAGH")
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To: Wolfstar
The willfully blind will still be blind, but those who have some sense of vision left, may, in the end, understand the weight of the decision they will be making in November.

It is to vote for the safety, strength and honor of this country, or to vote for a Dem.

The other choices......to stay home, or to vote for a third party loser, are a vote for the latter, and may well result in disaster......

755 posted on 01/22/2004 10:55:34 AM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: ohioWfan
" And Bush is the only one running who qualifies."

I am in qualified agreement; Bush is clearly pro-military, and is more pro-american than any of his dnc opponents or HRC. On the other hand, he, like pretty much all major candidates, represents the interests of american multinational corporations. Whether it is wholesale exportation of jobs to whatever the country of the moment is (in addition to manufacturing attrition, the new fad of the moment is remote call centers, mainly in India), a trade deficit with china that in great parts funds their military and government, etc.

The major parties are pretty much in lockstep on 90% of issues that involve government (and its expansion), Bush included. The 10% they don't agree on (guns, abortion, some views on new social spending) is given a lot of play to create the illusion of difference in our choices. The major exception to this is appointment of judges and the method/motives by which the military is used in foreign policy.

To me, bush is clearly the lesser of the electable evils. The idea of a kerry, dean or worst of all HRC is a nightmare.
756 posted on 01/22/2004 10:55:37 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Protagoras
You will not be more likely to get that voting for a dem or a third party so what will you do?
757 posted on 01/22/2004 10:55:55 AM PST by MEG33
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To: My2Cents
That is by far the most pathetic attack I have seen to date.

Are you really prepared to call those of us who have voted straight party GOP for 20+ or more years psychologically impaired because we have finally become fed up?

That is truly pathetic and unworthy of this forum.
758 posted on 01/22/2004 10:55:59 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Constitution party here I come. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: m1-lightning
I agree, and that's why I ignore most of them. In most cases they are whining about something that has either not happened or some distorted interpretation of the facts that has been regurgetated in the New York Times. Take for an example, the quote you posted, somehow that direct quote from the POTUS has become something totally different in the minds of some here. To argue over it is as useless as asking a blind man if he likes the new high definition Plasma TV's
759 posted on 01/22/2004 10:57:21 AM PST by MJY1288 (WITHOUT DOUBLE STANDARDS, LIBERALS WOULDN'T HAVE ANY !)
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To: My2Cents
Voting third party at a time of war, both at home and abroad, when the only real choices are a moderately conservative (or conservatively moderate) incumbent, and the incarnation of evil in our society, is lunacy.

The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of public liberty.

760 posted on 01/22/2004 10:57:21 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice.)
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