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So you think George W. Bush is not a conservative?
SOTU transcript ^ | 1/22/04

Posted on 01/22/2004 7:07:09 AM PST by Wolfstar

ED. NOTE: On Tuesday evening, January 20, 2004, the President of the United States gave one of the most conservative State of the Union addresses in at least a generation. For a SOTU speech, it had a remarkably short spending wish list. Instead, it had passages such as those excerpted below — none of which would have been spoken by a Democrat or liberal (i.e., Leftist), or even a "RINO." Check it out:

[BEGIN EXCERPTS: Bold/underscore emphasis by Wolfstar]

Our greatest responsibility is the active defense of the American people. Twenty-eight months have passed since September 11th, 2001 — over two years without an attack on American soil. And it is tempting to believe that the danger is behind us. That hope is understandable, comforting — and false.

[SNIP]

The once all-powerful ruler of Iraq was found in a hole, and now sits in a prison cell. Of the top 55 officials of the former regime, we have captured or killed 45. Our forces are on the offensive, leading over 1,600 patrols a day and conducting an average of 180 raids a week. We are dealing with these thugs in Iraq, just as surely as we dealt with Saddam Hussein's evil regime.

Because of American leadership and resolve, the world is changing for the better. Last month, the leader of Libya voluntarily pledged to disclose and dismantle all of his regime's weapons of mass destruction programs, including a uranium enrichment project for nuclear weapons.

[SNIP]

Nine months of intense negotiations involving the United States and Great Britain succeeded with Libya, while 12 years of diplomacy with Iraq did not. And one reason is clear: For diplomacy to be effective, words must be credible, and no one can now doubt the word of America.

Many of our troops are listening tonight. And I want you and your families to know: America is proud of you. And my administration, and this Congress, will give you the resources you need to fight and win the war on terror.

I know that some people question if America is really in a war at all. They view terrorism more as a crime, a problem to be solved mainly with law enforcement and indictments. After the World Trade Center was first attacked in 1993, some of the guilty were indicted and tried and convicted, and sent to prison. But the matter was not settled. The terrorists were still training and plotting in other nations, and drawing up more ambitious plans. After the chaos and carnage of September the 11th, it is not enough to serve our enemies with legal papers. The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States, and war is what they got.

[SNIP]

Some critics have said our duties in Iraq must be internationalized. This particular criticism is hard to explain to our partners in Britain, Australia, Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, Thailand, Italy, Spain, Poland, Denmark, Hungary, Bulgaria, Ukraine, Romania, the Netherlands — (applause) — Norway, El Salvador, and the 17 other countries that have committed troops to Iraq. As we debate at home, we must never ignore the vital contributions of our international partners, or dismiss their sacrifices.

From the beginning, America has sought international support for our operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, and we have gained much support. There is a difference, however, between leading a coalition of many nations, and submitting to the objections of a few. America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country.

We also hear doubts that democracy is a realistic goal for the greater Middle East, where freedom is rare. Yet it is mistaken, and condescending, to assume that whole cultures and great religions are incompatible with liberty and self-government. I believe that God has planted in every human heart the desire to live in freedom. And even when that desire is crushed by tyranny for decades, it will rise again.

[SNIP]

In the last three years, adversity has also revealed the fundamental strengths of the American economy. We have come through recession, and terrorist attack, and corporate scandals, and the uncertainties of war. And because you acted to stimulate our economy with tax relief, this economy is strong, and growing stronger.

You have doubled the child tax credit from $500 to $1,000, reduced the marriage penalty, begun to phase out the death tax, reduced taxes on capital gains and stock dividends, cut taxes on small businesses, and you have lowered taxes for every American who pays income taxes.

Americans took those dollars and put them to work, driving this economy forward. The pace of economic growth in the third quarter of 2003 was the fastest in nearly 20 years; new home construction, the highest in almost 20 years; home ownership rates, the highest ever. Manufacturing activity is increasing. Inflation is low. Interest rates are low. Exports are growing. Productivity is high, and jobs are on the rise.

These numbers confirm that the American people are using their money far better than government would have — and you were right to return it.

[SNIP]

We're requiring higher standards [in schools]. We are regularly testing every child on the fundamentals. We are reporting results to parents, and making sure they have better options when schools are not performing.

[SNIP]

We must continue to pursue an aggressive, pro-growth economic agenda. Congress has some unfinished business on the issue of taxes. The tax reductions you passed are set to expire. Unless you act — (applause) — unless you act — unless you act, the unfair tax on marriage will go back up. Unless you act, millions of families will be charged $300 more in federal taxes for every child. Unless you act, small businesses will pay higher taxes. Unless you act, the death tax will eventually come back to life. Unless you act, Americans face a tax increase. What Congress has given, the Congress should not take away. For the sake of job growth, the tax cuts you passed should be permanent.

Our agenda for jobs and growth must help small business owners and employees with relief from needless federal regulation, and protect them from junk and frivolous lawsuits.

Consumers and businesses need reliable supplies of energy to make our economy run — so I urge you to pass legislation to modernize our electricity system, promote conservation, and make America less dependent on foreign sources of energy.

My administration is promoting free and fair trade to open up new markets for America's entrepreneurs and manufacturers and farmers — to create jobs for American workers. Younger workers should have the opportunity to build a nest egg by saving part of their Social Security taxes in a personal retirement account. We should make the Social Security system a source of ownership for the American people.

[SNIP]

In two weeks, I will send you a budget that funds the war, protects the homeland, and meets important domestic needs, while limiting the growth in discretionary spending to less than 4 percent. This will require that Congress focus on priorities, cut wasteful spending, and be wise with the people's money. By doing so, we can cut the deficit in half over the next five years.

Tonight, I also ask you to reform our immigration laws so they reflect our values and benefit our economy.

[SNIP]

I oppose amnesty, because it would encourage further illegal immigration, and unfairly reward those who break our laws. My temporary worker program will preserve the citizenship path for those who respect the law, while bringing millions of hardworking men and women out from the shadows of American life.

[ED. NOTE: The precedent for guest worker programs goes back at least to the Eisenhower administration.]

[SNIP]

In January of 2006, seniors can get prescription drug coverage under Medicare. For a monthly premium of about $35, most seniors who do not have that coverage today can expect to see their drug bills cut roughly in half. Under this reform, senior citizens will be able to keep their Medicare just as it is, or they can choose a Medicare plan that fits them best — just as you, as members of Congress, can choose an insurance plan that meets your needs. And starting this year, millions of Americans will be able to save money tax-free for their medical expenses in a health savings account.

[SNIP]

On the critical issue of health care, our goal is to ensure that Americans can choose and afford private health care coverage that best fits their individual needs.

[SNIP]

Small businesses should be able to band together and negotiate for lower insurance rates, so they can cover more workers with health insurance. I urge you to pass association health plans. I ask you to give lower-income Americans a refundable tax credit that would allow millions to buy their own basic health insurance.

[SNIP]

To protect the doctor-patient relationship, and keep good doctors doing good work, we must eliminate wasteful and frivolous medical lawsuits. And tonight I propose that individuals who buy catastrophic health care coverage, as part of our new health savings accounts, be allowed to deduct 100 percent of the premiums from their taxes.

A government-run health care system is the wrong prescription. By keeping costs under control, expanding access, and helping more Americans afford coverage, we will preserve the system of private medicine that makes America's health care the best in the world.

[SNIP]

One of the worst decisions our children can make is to gamble their lives and futures on drugs. Our government is helping parents confront this problem with aggressive education, treatment, and law enforcement. Drug use in high school has declined by 11 percent over the last two years. Four hundred thousand fewer young people are using illegal drugs than in the year 2001.

[SNIP]

A strong America must also value the institution of marriage. I believe we should respect individuals as we take a principled stand for one of the most fundamental, enduring institutions of our civilization. Congress has already taken a stand on this issue by passing the Defense of Marriage Act, signed in 1996 by President Clinton. That statute protects marriage under federal law as a union of a man and a woman, and declares that one state may not redefine marriage for other states.

Activist judges, however, have begun redefining marriage by court order, without regard for the will of the people and their elected representatives. On an issue of such great consequence, the people's voice must be heard. If judges insist on forcing their arbitrary will upon the people, the only alternative left to the people would be the constitutional process. Our nation must defend the sanctity of marriage.

[SNIP]

It's also important to strengthen our communities by unleashing the compassion of America's religious institutions. Religious charities of every creed are doing some of the most vital work in our country — mentoring children, feeding the hungry, taking the hand of the lonely. Yet government has often denied social service grants and contracts to these groups, just because they have a cross or a Star of David or a crescent on the wall. By executive order, I have opened billions of dollars in grant money to competition that includes faith-based charities. Tonight I ask you to codify this into law, so people of faith can know that the law will never discriminate against them again.

[SNIP]

The momentum of freedom in our world is unmistakable — and it is not carried forward by our power alone. We can trust in that greater power who guides the unfolding of the years. And in all that is to come, we can know that His purposes are just and true.

[END EXCERPTS]


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; bushamnesty; sotu
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To: Porterville
I've been making this same argument for weeks. Falls on deaf ears. I guess maybe the concept is just too darn simple for people to understand.
1,101 posted on 01/22/2004 1:04:03 PM PST by kevao
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To: Mo1
You will need to ask Zipporah.
1,102 posted on 01/22/2004 1:04:40 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Constitution party here I come. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: Mo1
It doesn't matter; I just called both of their offices; they both said emphatically that that is false information.
1,103 posted on 01/22/2004 1:04:41 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Bikers4Bush
If he uses an executive order to institute the illegal proposal (as a senators aid said he is planning to do) I will be absolutely convinced of it.

Which Senator's aide said this? When? What occasion? Senator Edwards says he'll take care of the "workin' man", who's that man? See , until W actually does do something that dire, or even thinks about it,I tend to give him the benefit of the doubt. Seriously, though , if you have the individual who said this, let us know.Might be a very important contribution.

1,104 posted on 01/22/2004 1:04:54 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: exmarine
Believe me so do I. I get the sinking feeling however that this is exactly what will happen.
1,105 posted on 01/22/2004 1:05:32 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Constitution party here I come. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: honeygrl
I'm sure right after the civil war people wondered how we'd have cotton without slaves too. That seemed to have been worked out though eventually and the farmers could work it out now too.

You think we should go back to sharecropping???

1,106 posted on 01/22/2004 1:05:43 PM PST by Porterville (Level 9 -Traitors against God, country, family, and benefactors lament their sins in this frigid pit)
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To: Howlin
I just called both of their offices; they both said emphatically that that is false information.

I figured that .. thanks for checking into it

1,107 posted on 01/22/2004 1:06:44 PM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: Howlin
I'm sure they both did.
1,108 posted on 01/22/2004 1:07:18 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Constitution party here I come. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: Dane; RiflemanSharpe
Hell you would be angry at Bush if he changed the part in his hair, IMO.

And you would be pleased at him no matter what he does, so long as there is an R after his name.

1,109 posted on 01/22/2004 1:08:09 PM PST by BSunday (Error 409: Tagline Not Found)
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To: Bikers4Bush
I get the sinking feeling however that this is exactly what will happen.

You're spreading falsehoods, saying that Bush could implement this entire plan through executive order.

I suspect you know that, but you just continue to stretch the envelope.

1,110 posted on 01/22/2004 1:08:45 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: Protagoras
Try to see this through your cranial incapacitation.

"The party is NOT broken, much to your dismay, I am sure. 91% support this president and his policies."

Do 91% of the Republican party support this president? Yes, his source showed that. AP and FoxNews has it 86-89% now.

Now to the part your atrophied grey cell is having a difficult time understanding: "91% support this president and his policies." A general statement of the support. Of course they support his policies if they approve of his job - if they hated his policies, they wouldn't approve."

Next, the article goes from general to specific. Policy A has x% support, policy B has y%.

No where was it said or implied that 91% supported 91% of his policies or 91% supported 100%.

It is a general point followed by specific points. It's how you write an article.

The fairy tale or straw man was yours. In your rabid desire to discredit anything Bush, you set up a false premise and demanded proof for something you knew was false and then accused Howlin of deceit when he failed to prove your false premise.

Perhaps you initially misread - or you were being intellectually dishonest as he responded.

1,111 posted on 01/22/2004 1:08:51 PM PST by Ophiucus
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To: Mo1; Bikers4Bush
I finally was able to reach someone I know at my senator's office.. he told me that BUSH INTENDS TO PUT THE IMMIGRATION FIASCO THROUGH AS AN EXECUTIVE ORDER!!!

Hmm how come they don't mention the name of the aide? And the phone number where that person can be reached?

1,112 posted on 01/22/2004 1:09:27 PM PST by Dane
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To: Protagoras
For the record, and for those of you who are comprehension challenged, I said that it was a fairy tale that 91% of Republicans supported his policies, period.

And ravingnutter just put the lie to that.

another poster said 91 % of republicans supported his policies, with no qualifiers. Just a blanket statement. It was, and is, a fairy tale. Belive what you want, but don't lie about my position.

Again, ravingnutter just put the lie to that statement of yours.

But keep on making it; it just seals opinions around here that you're a dishonest poster.

1,113 posted on 01/22/2004 1:09:33 PM PST by Howlin
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To: kevao
Well it is Econ-101; most people these days can't read past a 6th grade level.
1,114 posted on 01/22/2004 1:09:39 PM PST by Porterville (Level 9 -Traitors against God, country, family, and benefactors lament their sins in this frigid pit)
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To: gatorbait; All
See , until W actually does do something that dire, or even thinks about it,I tend to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Hypothetically, if Pres. Bush really did this, would it even matter to anyone here? I ask this seriously and would to hear everyone's take on it, because even in that case, one could still make the argument: Bush is better than Dean, Kerry, etc.

1,115 posted on 01/22/2004 1:10:09 PM PST by kevao
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To: sinkspur
Why don't you try reading up before running your mouth sinkspur?

Or are you claiming that he couldn't implement it through executive order?

Seems pretty clear to me after the EO's that clinton wrote that it is entirely possible.
1,116 posted on 01/22/2004 1:10:34 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Constitution party here I come. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: cardinal4
Yep, those who voted against Bush41, Perot, or sat out the vote "to show Bush hes not being conservative enough for me", are fully responsible for the ensuing 8 years of lies, deceit, terror attacks, and murder. And the stakes are much higher now, than they were in '92. There is no way the combined intellect on this forum cant see what will happen if all these threats of third party voting, sitting out the vote or writing in a candidiate comes to pass.

You know...I think most people understand this. The real questions are IMHO: How long do we have to wait? How long can we afford to fund increased government entitlements/bureaucracy and promote Republican politicians who support it simply because they have an (R) after their name? Is the current Republican appeasing lean toward the center left (fiscally anyway) temporary, or a sign of things to come? Does the Republican party support the soverignty of the United States...or are we moving toward a "North American Union" (ala EU)? Can we trust these people to represent us conservatives or what? When will we reach the point of: "put up or shut up"? I'm willing to give GWB a chance...but IMHO...he's got to meet us half way.

1,117 posted on 01/22/2004 1:10:50 PM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (Principled conservatives need not apply...we're all centrists now. Shut up & pay your taxes.)
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To: Dane
He is angering you, not the base as has been proven. You are not the base.

Hell you would be angry at Bush if he changed the part in his hair, IMO.


You are right,I am no longer part of the base. I was a part of the base until the amnesty proposal. I quit then.
1,118 posted on 01/22/2004 1:11:18 PM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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To: Dane
Why don't you ask the source?
1,119 posted on 01/22/2004 1:11:23 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Constitution party here I come. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: Bikers4Bush
Believe me so do I. I get the sinking feeling however that this is exactly what will happen

Trying to be the next Miss Cleo? Actually if set up a 900 number you could probably make some money offering your "visions" to the malcontents.

1,120 posted on 01/22/2004 1:11:53 PM PST by Dane
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