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So you think George W. Bush is not a conservative?
SOTU transcript ^ | 1/22/04

Posted on 01/22/2004 7:07:09 AM PST by Wolfstar

ED. NOTE: On Tuesday evening, January 20, 2004, the President of the United States gave one of the most conservative State of the Union addresses in at least a generation. For a SOTU speech, it had a remarkably short spending wish list. Instead, it had passages such as those excerpted below — none of which would have been spoken by a Democrat or liberal (i.e., Leftist), or even a "RINO." Check it out:

[BEGIN EXCERPTS: Bold/underscore emphasis by Wolfstar]

Our greatest responsibility is the active defense of the American people. Twenty-eight months have passed since September 11th, 2001 — over two years without an attack on American soil. And it is tempting to believe that the danger is behind us. That hope is understandable, comforting — and false.

[SNIP]

The once all-powerful ruler of Iraq was found in a hole, and now sits in a prison cell. Of the top 55 officials of the former regime, we have captured or killed 45. Our forces are on the offensive, leading over 1,600 patrols a day and conducting an average of 180 raids a week. We are dealing with these thugs in Iraq, just as surely as we dealt with Saddam Hussein's evil regime.

Because of American leadership and resolve, the world is changing for the better. Last month, the leader of Libya voluntarily pledged to disclose and dismantle all of his regime's weapons of mass destruction programs, including a uranium enrichment project for nuclear weapons.

[SNIP]

Nine months of intense negotiations involving the United States and Great Britain succeeded with Libya, while 12 years of diplomacy with Iraq did not. And one reason is clear: For diplomacy to be effective, words must be credible, and no one can now doubt the word of America.

Many of our troops are listening tonight. And I want you and your families to know: America is proud of you. And my administration, and this Congress, will give you the resources you need to fight and win the war on terror.

I know that some people question if America is really in a war at all. They view terrorism more as a crime, a problem to be solved mainly with law enforcement and indictments. After the World Trade Center was first attacked in 1993, some of the guilty were indicted and tried and convicted, and sent to prison. But the matter was not settled. The terrorists were still training and plotting in other nations, and drawing up more ambitious plans. After the chaos and carnage of September the 11th, it is not enough to serve our enemies with legal papers. The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States, and war is what they got.

[SNIP]

Some critics have said our duties in Iraq must be internationalized. This particular criticism is hard to explain to our partners in Britain, Australia, Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, Thailand, Italy, Spain, Poland, Denmark, Hungary, Bulgaria, Ukraine, Romania, the Netherlands — (applause) — Norway, El Salvador, and the 17 other countries that have committed troops to Iraq. As we debate at home, we must never ignore the vital contributions of our international partners, or dismiss their sacrifices.

From the beginning, America has sought international support for our operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, and we have gained much support. There is a difference, however, between leading a coalition of many nations, and submitting to the objections of a few. America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country.

We also hear doubts that democracy is a realistic goal for the greater Middle East, where freedom is rare. Yet it is mistaken, and condescending, to assume that whole cultures and great religions are incompatible with liberty and self-government. I believe that God has planted in every human heart the desire to live in freedom. And even when that desire is crushed by tyranny for decades, it will rise again.

[SNIP]

In the last three years, adversity has also revealed the fundamental strengths of the American economy. We have come through recession, and terrorist attack, and corporate scandals, and the uncertainties of war. And because you acted to stimulate our economy with tax relief, this economy is strong, and growing stronger.

You have doubled the child tax credit from $500 to $1,000, reduced the marriage penalty, begun to phase out the death tax, reduced taxes on capital gains and stock dividends, cut taxes on small businesses, and you have lowered taxes for every American who pays income taxes.

Americans took those dollars and put them to work, driving this economy forward. The pace of economic growth in the third quarter of 2003 was the fastest in nearly 20 years; new home construction, the highest in almost 20 years; home ownership rates, the highest ever. Manufacturing activity is increasing. Inflation is low. Interest rates are low. Exports are growing. Productivity is high, and jobs are on the rise.

These numbers confirm that the American people are using their money far better than government would have — and you were right to return it.

[SNIP]

We're requiring higher standards [in schools]. We are regularly testing every child on the fundamentals. We are reporting results to parents, and making sure they have better options when schools are not performing.

[SNIP]

We must continue to pursue an aggressive, pro-growth economic agenda. Congress has some unfinished business on the issue of taxes. The tax reductions you passed are set to expire. Unless you act — (applause) — unless you act — unless you act, the unfair tax on marriage will go back up. Unless you act, millions of families will be charged $300 more in federal taxes for every child. Unless you act, small businesses will pay higher taxes. Unless you act, the death tax will eventually come back to life. Unless you act, Americans face a tax increase. What Congress has given, the Congress should not take away. For the sake of job growth, the tax cuts you passed should be permanent.

Our agenda for jobs and growth must help small business owners and employees with relief from needless federal regulation, and protect them from junk and frivolous lawsuits.

Consumers and businesses need reliable supplies of energy to make our economy run — so I urge you to pass legislation to modernize our electricity system, promote conservation, and make America less dependent on foreign sources of energy.

My administration is promoting free and fair trade to open up new markets for America's entrepreneurs and manufacturers and farmers — to create jobs for American workers. Younger workers should have the opportunity to build a nest egg by saving part of their Social Security taxes in a personal retirement account. We should make the Social Security system a source of ownership for the American people.

[SNIP]

In two weeks, I will send you a budget that funds the war, protects the homeland, and meets important domestic needs, while limiting the growth in discretionary spending to less than 4 percent. This will require that Congress focus on priorities, cut wasteful spending, and be wise with the people's money. By doing so, we can cut the deficit in half over the next five years.

Tonight, I also ask you to reform our immigration laws so they reflect our values and benefit our economy.

[SNIP]

I oppose amnesty, because it would encourage further illegal immigration, and unfairly reward those who break our laws. My temporary worker program will preserve the citizenship path for those who respect the law, while bringing millions of hardworking men and women out from the shadows of American life.

[ED. NOTE: The precedent for guest worker programs goes back at least to the Eisenhower administration.]

[SNIP]

In January of 2006, seniors can get prescription drug coverage under Medicare. For a monthly premium of about $35, most seniors who do not have that coverage today can expect to see their drug bills cut roughly in half. Under this reform, senior citizens will be able to keep their Medicare just as it is, or they can choose a Medicare plan that fits them best — just as you, as members of Congress, can choose an insurance plan that meets your needs. And starting this year, millions of Americans will be able to save money tax-free for their medical expenses in a health savings account.

[SNIP]

On the critical issue of health care, our goal is to ensure that Americans can choose and afford private health care coverage that best fits their individual needs.

[SNIP]

Small businesses should be able to band together and negotiate for lower insurance rates, so they can cover more workers with health insurance. I urge you to pass association health plans. I ask you to give lower-income Americans a refundable tax credit that would allow millions to buy their own basic health insurance.

[SNIP]

To protect the doctor-patient relationship, and keep good doctors doing good work, we must eliminate wasteful and frivolous medical lawsuits. And tonight I propose that individuals who buy catastrophic health care coverage, as part of our new health savings accounts, be allowed to deduct 100 percent of the premiums from their taxes.

A government-run health care system is the wrong prescription. By keeping costs under control, expanding access, and helping more Americans afford coverage, we will preserve the system of private medicine that makes America's health care the best in the world.

[SNIP]

One of the worst decisions our children can make is to gamble their lives and futures on drugs. Our government is helping parents confront this problem with aggressive education, treatment, and law enforcement. Drug use in high school has declined by 11 percent over the last two years. Four hundred thousand fewer young people are using illegal drugs than in the year 2001.

[SNIP]

A strong America must also value the institution of marriage. I believe we should respect individuals as we take a principled stand for one of the most fundamental, enduring institutions of our civilization. Congress has already taken a stand on this issue by passing the Defense of Marriage Act, signed in 1996 by President Clinton. That statute protects marriage under federal law as a union of a man and a woman, and declares that one state may not redefine marriage for other states.

Activist judges, however, have begun redefining marriage by court order, without regard for the will of the people and their elected representatives. On an issue of such great consequence, the people's voice must be heard. If judges insist on forcing their arbitrary will upon the people, the only alternative left to the people would be the constitutional process. Our nation must defend the sanctity of marriage.

[SNIP]

It's also important to strengthen our communities by unleashing the compassion of America's religious institutions. Religious charities of every creed are doing some of the most vital work in our country — mentoring children, feeding the hungry, taking the hand of the lonely. Yet government has often denied social service grants and contracts to these groups, just because they have a cross or a Star of David or a crescent on the wall. By executive order, I have opened billions of dollars in grant money to competition that includes faith-based charities. Tonight I ask you to codify this into law, so people of faith can know that the law will never discriminate against them again.

[SNIP]

The momentum of freedom in our world is unmistakable — and it is not carried forward by our power alone. We can trust in that greater power who guides the unfolding of the years. And in all that is to come, we can know that His purposes are just and true.

[END EXCERPTS]


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; bushamnesty; sotu
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To: Poohbah
Jim Robinson did exactly that in 2000. He banished a large number of Brigadiers for advocating just what you propose.

For advocating what exactly?

1,061 posted on 01/22/2004 12:47:49 PM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: MJY1288
And all 13 of them are here regurgetating their talking points from the (anti)Constitution Party.

Scary thought...think Howie or Buchanon had himself cloned?

1,062 posted on 01/22/2004 12:47:53 PM PST by Ophiucus
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To: Mo1
Good choice


1,063 posted on 01/22/2004 12:48:09 PM PST by DollyCali (2004: Opportunity for love, growth, giving, doing..... It is our choice.)
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To: Howlin
You evidently do, as you're the one saying Bush is more dangerous than a Democrat.

Politics is serious business. Our discussion here is just entertainment. Feeling entertained?

1,064 posted on 01/22/2004 12:48:14 PM PST by Nanodik (Libertarian, Ex-Canadian)
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To: Wolfstar
"Our greatest responsibility is the active defense of the American people. Twenty-eight months have passed since September 11th, 2001" -
Thats right 28 months and we are still mucking around with Iraq and Afganistan. No, worse we are rebuilding them. We should have given Iraq 24 hours to evacuate Bagdad and Nuked that city on the 12th! Then demand Bin Laden or Tehran would be next. Who would have thought the greatest SuperPower in the world would not be able to wip nations like Aganistan and Iraq in a few months because it was hamstrung by something called Compassionate Conservatism.
Quick trials and Bin Laden and Saddam would have been in grave holes quick and the rest of the terror leaders would have been doing what kadafi is doing now.
No coaliton needed.

Tax cuts during a war? during budget deficits? during a huge national debt? I'm all for returning my money AFTER my debts have been paid. We racked up the debt - knocking down the Iron Curtain. We need to pay it off before we get tax cuts. Oh yeah, there is a war? Did we cut taxes during WW2?

"My administration is promoting free and fair trade to open up new markets for America's entrepreneurs and manufacturers and farmers — to create jobs for American workers" - pleeeeeese come on man. Jobs are going to Mexico and the rest of the third World. Unlimited! There is no 65000 limit on H1b visas because of the exceptions in the fine print(www.fairus.org)there is no limit on the number of H1B and L1 visas being issued by this government to take our best hi tech jobs and give them to anyone who is NOT American. Other jobs are being outsourced insourced every source but American sourced.
Our President wants to give 15 billion dollars for Aids in Africa and just .5 billion to community colleges here in the U.S.
This is not conservative , its not even Patriotic, but it sure is compassionate.
Me well, never was down with the compassionate thing. I like the way Pershing was compassionate with moslems in the Philipines, ....lined em up, dipped bullets in pig blood, shot em, thru em in a hole and drops cut up pigs on top of em.
1,065 posted on 01/22/2004 12:48:34 PM PST by TomasUSMC (from tomasUSMC FIGHT FOR THE LAND OF THE FREE AND HOME OF THE BRAVE)
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To: Redleg Duke
Where did I say I was going to hide?

What's pathetic is that you think I'm the only guy that rides who thinks like this.
1,066 posted on 01/22/2004 12:49:35 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Constitution party here I come. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: DollyCali
That guy really needs the Atkins diet.
1,067 posted on 01/22/2004 12:49:51 PM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (Principled conservatives need not apply...we're all centrists now. Shut up & pay your taxes.)
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To: Ophiucus
That sort of thing only exists in the dim recesses of your mind.

The only thing dim is your ability to read. It was stated as a blanket statement. It is a fairy tale. You better go back and read again, the origianl post. I never let BS statement like that go unchallenged. The truth is LOTS AND LOTS of Republican do NOT support MANY of his policies. The author cited two. Both slam dunks that even many Democrats support.

When you can't refute what someone says, refute something they didn't say, works every time,,,,,, for strawmen.

1,068 posted on 01/22/2004 12:49:56 PM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: DollyCali
MUCH better!
1,069 posted on 01/22/2004 12:50:01 PM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: rintense; PhiKapMom; keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; Capitalist Eric; hershey; ...
You can please SOME of the people SOME of the time and . .

You can please OTHER people some OTHER time. .

But you CANNOT please . .

ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL OF THE TIME

As for me, it would just be nice to know where our country starts and ends again some day.


1,070 posted on 01/22/2004 12:50:02 PM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S. borders - Controlled by CORRUPT Politicians and Slave-Labor Employers)
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To: Nanodik
It may be entertainment to you, but to most of us, it's not.
1,071 posted on 01/22/2004 12:50:37 PM PST by Howlin
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To: exmarine
For advocating what exactly?

Throwing the election to the Democrats.

1,072 posted on 01/22/2004 12:50:46 PM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: My2Cents
In fact, many of these traits closely parallel the symptoms of Paranoid Personality Disorder as identified by the American Psychiatric Association

Oh man, the WMD of posting....

1,073 posted on 01/22/2004 12:51:18 PM PST by Ophiucus
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To: Sabertooth
A President who won't deport Illegals now, won't deport legalized Illegals later on.

I don't totally agree with that. You're not taking into consideration the difference in politics of a president in the first and second terms. Clinton took on an extreme leftist view after his re-election in 1996 because he no longer had to appease the moderates for a vote.

1,074 posted on 01/22/2004 12:51:34 PM PST by m1-lightning (Weapons of deterrence do not deter terrorists; people of deterrence do.)
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To: RiflemanSharpe
The bigger killer is angering your base the way GWB is doing. Just ask Bush 41.

Ill bet 90% of the people on this forum vote for W, despite all the rhetoric of late. One of the things that makes FR such a great place is its intellect. There are some real smart people here. It is for that reason I made the above statement....

Just ask Bush 41

. Yep, those who voted against Bush41, Perot, or sat out the vote "to show Bush hes not being conservative enough for me", are fully responsible for the ensuing 8 years of lies, deceit, terror attacks, and murder. And the stakes are much higher now, than they were in '92. There is no way the combined intellect on this forum cant see what will happen if all these threats of third party voting, sitting out the vote or writing in a candidiate comes to pass..

1,075 posted on 01/22/2004 12:51:42 PM PST by cardinal4 (Hillary and Clark rhymes with Ft Marcy park...)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Regarding his "spending": It's DOMESTIC spending which goes right back into our own economy and keeps people employed and keeps the money circulating. That's a good thing.

If that were true, then a country's prosperity would be directly proportional to the size of its government as a share of GDP. In fact, the exact opposite is true!

1,076 posted on 01/22/2004 12:51:47 PM PST by kevao
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To: Poohbah
Ah, yes. The Hillary Clinton and Ollie North defense: "I don't recall that." It was a lot more than that.

A convenient tactical argument but inaccurate. I can name the names of those banned (who JimRob reinstated several times before final banning) and I can also name which Brigadiers actually voted for Buchanan instead of Bush, a very short list. I don't think you can match me on this.

I don't count the liberal disruptors who got banned as members of the Brigade, any more than I count the one-day wonders who claim to be Bush supporters but advocate sodomy marriage and other real liberal stuff as being real Bushbots. If you paid much attention, the actual Brigade was always a fairly small cadre.

Try to distinguish between the real Bushbots, real bashbots and real (former) Brigadiers. Most FReepers who fit these categories have been here for the long haul and are pretty well-known to old-timers.
1,077 posted on 01/22/2004 12:52:42 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Howlin
Really.


To: Columbine; Happy2BMe
NOW HEAR THIS!!

I finally was able to reach someone I know at my senator's office.. he told me that BUSH INTENDS TO PUT THE IMMIGRATION FIASCO THROUGH AS AN
EXECUTIVE ORDER!!!

This is a total abuse of power IMO!
137 posted on 01/21/2004 2:36:32 PM PST by Zipporah (Write inTancredo in 2004)
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1,078 posted on 01/22/2004 12:53:13 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Constitution party here I come. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: My2Cents
It would be nice if George W. Bush were the second coming of Russell Kirk

I'd settle for James T. Kirk.....(I know - bad geek joke)

1,079 posted on 01/22/2004 12:53:51 PM PST by Ophiucus
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To: BSunday
If Bush was anymore of a RINO he would be grey, have a horn in his forhead and be running across the plains of central Africa.
1,080 posted on 01/22/2004 12:54:30 PM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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