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So you think George W. Bush is not a conservative?
SOTU transcript ^ | 1/22/04

Posted on 01/22/2004 7:07:09 AM PST by Wolfstar

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To: Poohbah
Jim Robinson did exactly that in 2000. He banished a large number of Brigadiers for advocating just what you propose.

For advocating what exactly?

1,061 posted on 01/22/2004 12:47:49 PM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: MJY1288
And all 13 of them are here regurgetating their talking points from the (anti)Constitution Party.

Scary thought...think Howie or Buchanon had himself cloned?

1,062 posted on 01/22/2004 12:47:53 PM PST by Ophiucus
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To: Mo1
Good choice


1,063 posted on 01/22/2004 12:48:09 PM PST by DollyCali (2004: Opportunity for love, growth, giving, doing..... It is our choice.)
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To: Howlin
You evidently do, as you're the one saying Bush is more dangerous than a Democrat.

Politics is serious business. Our discussion here is just entertainment. Feeling entertained?

1,064 posted on 01/22/2004 12:48:14 PM PST by Nanodik (Libertarian, Ex-Canadian)
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To: Wolfstar
"Our greatest responsibility is the active defense of the American people. Twenty-eight months have passed since September 11th, 2001" -
Thats right 28 months and we are still mucking around with Iraq and Afganistan. No, worse we are rebuilding them. We should have given Iraq 24 hours to evacuate Bagdad and Nuked that city on the 12th! Then demand Bin Laden or Tehran would be next. Who would have thought the greatest SuperPower in the world would not be able to wip nations like Aganistan and Iraq in a few months because it was hamstrung by something called Compassionate Conservatism.
Quick trials and Bin Laden and Saddam would have been in grave holes quick and the rest of the terror leaders would have been doing what kadafi is doing now.
No coaliton needed.

Tax cuts during a war? during budget deficits? during a huge national debt? I'm all for returning my money AFTER my debts have been paid. We racked up the debt - knocking down the Iron Curtain. We need to pay it off before we get tax cuts. Oh yeah, there is a war? Did we cut taxes during WW2?

"My administration is promoting free and fair trade to open up new markets for America's entrepreneurs and manufacturers and farmers — to create jobs for American workers" - pleeeeeese come on man. Jobs are going to Mexico and the rest of the third World. Unlimited! There is no 65000 limit on H1b visas because of the exceptions in the fine print(www.fairus.org)there is no limit on the number of H1B and L1 visas being issued by this government to take our best hi tech jobs and give them to anyone who is NOT American. Other jobs are being outsourced insourced every source but American sourced.
Our President wants to give 15 billion dollars for Aids in Africa and just .5 billion to community colleges here in the U.S.
This is not conservative , its not even Patriotic, but it sure is compassionate.
Me well, never was down with the compassionate thing. I like the way Pershing was compassionate with moslems in the Philipines, ....lined em up, dipped bullets in pig blood, shot em, thru em in a hole and drops cut up pigs on top of em.
1,065 posted on 01/22/2004 12:48:34 PM PST by TomasUSMC (from tomasUSMC FIGHT FOR THE LAND OF THE FREE AND HOME OF THE BRAVE)
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To: Redleg Duke
Where did I say I was going to hide?

What's pathetic is that you think I'm the only guy that rides who thinks like this.
1,066 posted on 01/22/2004 12:49:35 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Constitution party here I come. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: DollyCali
That guy really needs the Atkins diet.
1,067 posted on 01/22/2004 12:49:51 PM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (Principled conservatives need not apply...we're all centrists now. Shut up & pay your taxes.)
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To: Ophiucus
That sort of thing only exists in the dim recesses of your mind.

The only thing dim is your ability to read. It was stated as a blanket statement. It is a fairy tale. You better go back and read again, the origianl post. I never let BS statement like that go unchallenged. The truth is LOTS AND LOTS of Republican do NOT support MANY of his policies. The author cited two. Both slam dunks that even many Democrats support.

When you can't refute what someone says, refute something they didn't say, works every time,,,,,, for strawmen.

1,068 posted on 01/22/2004 12:49:56 PM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: DollyCali
MUCH better!
1,069 posted on 01/22/2004 12:50:01 PM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: rintense; PhiKapMom; keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; Capitalist Eric; hershey; ...
You can please SOME of the people SOME of the time and . .

You can please OTHER people some OTHER time. .

But you CANNOT please . .

ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL OF THE TIME

As for me, it would just be nice to know where our country starts and ends again some day.


1,070 posted on 01/22/2004 12:50:02 PM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S. borders - Controlled by CORRUPT Politicians and Slave-Labor Employers)
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To: Nanodik
It may be entertainment to you, but to most of us, it's not.
1,071 posted on 01/22/2004 12:50:37 PM PST by Howlin
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To: exmarine
For advocating what exactly?

Throwing the election to the Democrats.

1,072 posted on 01/22/2004 12:50:46 PM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: My2Cents
In fact, many of these traits closely parallel the symptoms of Paranoid Personality Disorder as identified by the American Psychiatric Association

Oh man, the WMD of posting....

1,073 posted on 01/22/2004 12:51:18 PM PST by Ophiucus
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To: Sabertooth
A President who won't deport Illegals now, won't deport legalized Illegals later on.

I don't totally agree with that. You're not taking into consideration the difference in politics of a president in the first and second terms. Clinton took on an extreme leftist view after his re-election in 1996 because he no longer had to appease the moderates for a vote.

1,074 posted on 01/22/2004 12:51:34 PM PST by m1-lightning (Weapons of deterrence do not deter terrorists; people of deterrence do.)
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To: RiflemanSharpe
The bigger killer is angering your base the way GWB is doing. Just ask Bush 41.

Ill bet 90% of the people on this forum vote for W, despite all the rhetoric of late. One of the things that makes FR such a great place is its intellect. There are some real smart people here. It is for that reason I made the above statement....

Just ask Bush 41

. Yep, those who voted against Bush41, Perot, or sat out the vote "to show Bush hes not being conservative enough for me", are fully responsible for the ensuing 8 years of lies, deceit, terror attacks, and murder. And the stakes are much higher now, than they were in '92. There is no way the combined intellect on this forum cant see what will happen if all these threats of third party voting, sitting out the vote or writing in a candidiate comes to pass..

1,075 posted on 01/22/2004 12:51:42 PM PST by cardinal4 (Hillary and Clark rhymes with Ft Marcy park...)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Regarding his "spending": It's DOMESTIC spending which goes right back into our own economy and keeps people employed and keeps the money circulating. That's a good thing.

If that were true, then a country's prosperity would be directly proportional to the size of its government as a share of GDP. In fact, the exact opposite is true!

1,076 posted on 01/22/2004 12:51:47 PM PST by kevao
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To: Poohbah
Ah, yes. The Hillary Clinton and Ollie North defense: "I don't recall that." It was a lot more than that.

A convenient tactical argument but inaccurate. I can name the names of those banned (who JimRob reinstated several times before final banning) and I can also name which Brigadiers actually voted for Buchanan instead of Bush, a very short list. I don't think you can match me on this.

I don't count the liberal disruptors who got banned as members of the Brigade, any more than I count the one-day wonders who claim to be Bush supporters but advocate sodomy marriage and other real liberal stuff as being real Bushbots. If you paid much attention, the actual Brigade was always a fairly small cadre.

Try to distinguish between the real Bushbots, real bashbots and real (former) Brigadiers. Most FReepers who fit these categories have been here for the long haul and are pretty well-known to old-timers.
1,077 posted on 01/22/2004 12:52:42 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Howlin
Really.


To: Columbine; Happy2BMe
NOW HEAR THIS!!

I finally was able to reach someone I know at my senator's office.. he told me that BUSH INTENDS TO PUT THE IMMIGRATION FIASCO THROUGH AS AN
EXECUTIVE ORDER!!!

This is a total abuse of power IMO!
137 posted on 01/21/2004 2:36:32 PM PST by Zipporah (Write inTancredo in 2004)
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1,078 posted on 01/22/2004 12:53:13 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Constitution party here I come. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: My2Cents
It would be nice if George W. Bush were the second coming of Russell Kirk

I'd settle for James T. Kirk.....(I know - bad geek joke)

1,079 posted on 01/22/2004 12:53:51 PM PST by Ophiucus
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To: BSunday
If Bush was anymore of a RINO he would be grey, have a horn in his forhead and be running across the plains of central Africa.
1,080 posted on 01/22/2004 12:54:30 PM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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