In the FDNY, slurs are more than horseplay (A culture of hate toward gays, women, minorities)

NY Daily News ^ | January 21, 2004 | TOM RYAN

[presidio9]

Did he die because of a fatal heart attack? The excellent video that was filmed from inside the towers did not indicate his fate.

No, he was killed by falling debris as he admistered last rites to another fireman in the plaza between the towers (long before they actually collapsed).

[Clemenza]

Its incredible how while it is increasingly rare to see white guys involved in blue collar occupations in NYC, the FDNY and NYPD still draw heavily from white Catholics who "tawk like dis." I think the reason is that LEOs and firemen tend to be raised in a culture of informal networks/family ties that encourages them to follow in dad's/granddad's footsteps. They truly are a culture apart, but that seems to have served us well over the years.

[presidio9]

I think the reason is that LEOs and firemen tend to be raised in a culture of informal networks/family ties that encourages them to follow in dad's/granddad's footsteps. They truly are a culture apart, but that seems to have served us well over the years.

Which is why I get annoyed whenever I hear a liberal politician tug at voters heartstrings with the old "We are not paying our brave firefighters what they deserve" routine. Do firemen earn every penny they get? I think so. But do to cultural irregularities, we have never had anything like a shortage of appilicants.

[livius]

Judge wasn't gay. St. Francis of Assisi, the church to which he was attached, has a big gay outreach program. He - and most of the rest of the priests there - worked in this program.

I went to confession to him once (after a rather long spell of no confessions and some truly bizarre happenings), and he was very kind - and completely orthodox.

[Ohioan]

If my place is burning down, I don't give a damn if the firefighters are PC or not. What matters is if the fire is out, and everybody is safe.

You are right. But if we must profile, the non-PC type is more apt to be effective in a situation that calls for rapid, rational responses, than some neurotic who is trying to be PC. The Leftists will keep this up until the worm completely turns, and those who worry about how everything that comes out of their mouth might sound to other Leftists will be out of work.

And we are not treated, above, to information on what the supposedly Gay firefighter did to make everyone in the Fire House aware of his deficiency. I doubt if the others were conducting any sort of witch hunt. But I will defer to more information.

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