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Giuliani in 2008?
Cedar Ra[ids Gazette ^ | January 20, 2004 | Dick Hogan

Posted on 01/20/2004 2:34:08 PM PST by presidio9

Linn County Republicans last night seemed to be looking at political goals for the near and distant future. The near future is re-electing President Bush in November. But then Rep. Jim Leach, introducing former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani at the Linn County Republican caucus, planted the seed that Giuliani would make a good presidential candidate in 2008.

Giuliani responded to the standing ovation by several hundred people at Veterans Memorial Coliseum by saying he was overwhelmed to be there.

"There are more Republicans in this room than in all of New York City," he joked.

If Giuliani has presidential aspirations, he ignored them last night to beat the drum loudly for the Bush-Cheney ticket in November.

Recalling the deadly 9/11 terrorist attack on New York City while he was mayor, Giuliani said he told his police commissioner, "Thank God George Bush is the president of the United States. I knew him to be a man of character. I knew him to be a man of determination who was not going to be swayed. He stood up and said he was going to confront terrorism . . . to prevent it from happening again."

Giuliani said Bush's post-9/11 actions shine even more in light of the fact that Bush had only been in office about nine months when the attack happened.

Giuliani said all the Democratic candidates for president wanted to set the clock back before 9/11 and negotiate, including leaving Saddam Hussein in power in Iraq.

"We believe the world is safer now than it was then" because of Bush's handling of the crisis, Giuliani said.

He also praised Bush's economic policies, saying the economy is rebounding because Bush cut taxes and government control over the private sector.

"The Democrats want to raise taxes again and interrupt the recovery -- one of the strongest we've seen in the last 20 years. Does that make any sense?" Giuliani asked.

"Republicans consistently believe in people. The Democrats believe in government. We would be the party to say we would trust people more (than government)," he said.

The last election was close, and Giuliani said Republicans will fight as if this one will also be tight. He asked Iowa Republicans to work hard to ensure the 4,000-vote margin in the last election reverses and favors the GOP this time.

Cris Tanner, 46, of Marion, said Giuliani's comments inspired her to work harder to spread the word about Bush's good record to people who are undecided.

She also liked the idea of having Giuliani run for president in 2008.

"He'd have my vote," she said. "I think he would carry on and pick up where President Bush would leave off."

Joshua McKenzie, 19, a Kirkwood Community College student attending his first caucus, was similarly inspired, particularly by Giuliani's reminders about Bush's handling of terrorism and the economy.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: 2008; giuliani
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To: JebRudy2008
Re your post #78 - I agree. I think it will be Gov Jeb Bush as the GOP candidate in 2008. And, yes, I know his last name is Bush. But voters in FL love him, and he is the one and only GOP gov in this state to win re-election (and, by a landslide). Being able to win FL matters. Plus, he will appeal to many voters who never before voted GOP, while being true to core beliefs. He is definately a winning national candidate, IMO. But, I don't know if he will decide to run.
81 posted on 01/20/2004 6:03:29 PM PST by summer
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To: JebRudy2008
And, there's no doubt in my mind Jeb Bush is the one GOP candidate in 2008 the Dem Party leaders really fear. That's why they were so eager to get rid of Gov Bush in 2000. Gov Bush is a great campaigner, has lots of international experience in trade, and speaks fluent Spanish. He polls high with women and Hispanics, as well as seniors, three groups that usually vote Dem.
82 posted on 01/20/2004 6:05:17 PM PST by summer
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To: antaresequity
Rudy's Job is to run against Hillary

... And he lost ...

83 posted on 01/20/2004 6:21:25 PM PST by altair
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To: southernnorthcarolina
I'd love to see him run against Hillary; he may even scare her out of the race.

It's been done before and Hillary! scared Rudy out of the race.

84 posted on 01/20/2004 6:25:16 PM PST by altair
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To: tkathy
I think he would pursue the war on terror and has broad appeal to the disgusting moderates. No one has ever mentioned a Rep who has the slightest chance.

Okay, go ahead, tell me how Mark Sanford and Craig Benson and Tim Pawlenty and Bill Frist and George Allen can't appeal to moderates. What, you have no frickin' clue who they are? Oh, and you have no idea who Ehrlich and Mitt and Chuckie and Linda are, either?

Ignorance is no excuse for . . . well, for ignorance.

85 posted on 01/20/2004 6:30:42 PM PST by JohnnyZ (This Week in Senate Races: David Beasley (Y), Katherine Harris (N), Gary Hart (?), and Dan Blue (?))
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To: jmcclain19
Rudy's record as mayor is less impressive than it appears. If 9/11 had not occurred, his second term would have been remembered for lost opportunities (failed to fight rent control, punted on education reform), petty tyranny (endless squabbles with museums), and his divorce. 9/11 saved his political future. And he's VERY capable of pulling a Dean-like insane moment.
86 posted on 01/20/2004 7:46:44 PM PST by BroncosFan (Pat Toomey for Senate!)
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To: presidio9
Frist, Owens or Pawlenty.
87 posted on 01/20/2004 7:46:50 PM PST by CPT Clay (57 in '04)
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To: CPT Clay
John Kyl.
88 posted on 01/20/2004 7:47:41 PM PST by BroncosFan (Pat Toomey for Senate!)
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To: presidio9
No. No. No. and NO again.

Giuliani is NO Republican, regardless of what he calls himself.

He showed up in drag at a homosexual event. He believes in a National testing program to own a fiream and National gun registration. He helped Clinton campaign for his gun bills. He refused to support Pataki and Whitman in their bids for governor (that was BEFORE it was revealed they too, were left-wing RINOs.)
89 posted on 01/20/2004 8:05:04 PM PST by ZULU (Remember the Alamo!!!!!)
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To: tkathy
>> Rudy will make an awesome president in 2008. Otherwise there is no one who could win. >>

Where's one of those "TOM-TANCREDO-FOR-PRESIDENT" People around when you need one?
90 posted on 01/20/2004 8:47:38 PM PST by dangus
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To: jmcclain19
Actually, you can count on one finger the number of people who have won without being Gov., Gen., or VP.:

Sen. John F. Kennedy.

The country likes chief executives

But mayor of New York is being chief executive over 7 million people... Few governors rule so many.
91 posted on 01/20/2004 8:51:38 PM PST by dangus
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To: Captain Peter Blood
I think Rudy is about as unstable as Dean.

Giuliani is a crisis-slayer, but he loses his head under normal conditions, and starts attacking street vendors, taxi drivers, anyone. He's something like the Martin Sheen character in Apocalypse Now.

92 posted on 01/20/2004 8:53:42 PM PST by mrustow
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To: wtc911
I'd like to hear both arguments...without the catty bullsh**.

TS. The other person that you were referring to was trolling this thread with his own agenda, namely immigration. The article does not mention immigration. Rudy has no firm stand on immigration. It is irrelevant. If you are not smart enough to spot the obvious differences between President Bush and my former mayor, I can't help you. However, I suggest you start by comparing their opinions on abortion, marriage, guns, and homosexuality. You may find this enlightening.

93 posted on 01/21/2004 5:57:58 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: BMC1
If he's willing to blow Osama away, you know he'll go after terrorists.

You don't think that there are plenty of Conservatives (or even non-liberals) who would also be willing to "blow Osama away?"

94 posted on 01/21/2004 5:59:20 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: JohnnyZ; RoseofTexas; Servant of the 9
Try to offer some semblance of an argument -- ANYTHING! -- that this is true and maybe I won't consider you a raving left wing pro-abort intent on getting a liberal in the White House.

I scratch my head every time I see the ridiculous "Rudy or Hillary, take your pick" assessment. Sure, Hillary's "the most admired woman in America," according to People Magazine, or Entertainment Tonight, or some other "important" gage of public opinion. But she's also easily the most hated person in America. She is the reigning world champion of polarization. Will 30% of the voters come out just to vote for Hillary? Probably. But 40% will come out just to vote against her. Rick Lazio was an unknown with no credentials who joined the race at the last minute in a very liberal state. Hillary rode algore's coat tails during a presidential election. She still only got 56% of the vote. A healthy margin, but hardly a blowout.

95 posted on 01/21/2004 6:12:53 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: ZULU; All

He showed up in drag at a homosexual event.

96 posted on 01/21/2004 6:20:21 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9
"Hillary rode Al Gore's coat tails"....Um, Let's forget for a moment that the two ran with a widely publicized gulf between their campaigns (remember Al wanting to distance himself from the Clintons?) you can't ride the coat tails of a loser and win yourself.

Another example of erroneous opinion presented as fact.

97 posted on 01/21/2004 6:41:26 AM PST by wtc911 (I would like at least to know his name)
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To: presidio9
You say that Rudy's track record on gun control is a clear indicator that he would be much stricter on the issue than Bush....

What exactly is Rudy's record on gun control? During the time of his one elected position what changes did he make in the NYC gun laws?

Do you know or are you giving misinfomed opinion as fact again?

98 posted on 01/21/2004 6:47:36 AM PST by wtc911 (I would like at least to know his name)
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To: presidio9
I'll fight a pro-abortion Republican presidential candidate with everything I have.
99 posted on 01/21/2004 6:48:45 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: wtc911
"Hillary rode Al Gore's coat tails"....Um, Let's forget for a moment that the two ran with a widely publicized gulf between their campaigns (remember Al wanting to distance himself from the Clintons?) you can't ride the coat tails of a loser and win yourself.

Another example of erroneous opinion presented as fact.

Now I remember why I generally avoid all attempts to penetrate that thick skull of yours. The only votes that counted as far as Hillary Clinton was concerned were the ones cast in NY. Al Gore won NY by a landslide (60%).

It is universally accepted that people who show up to vote for a presidential candidate generally honor the ticket straight down the line. Five percent of NY voters voted for Gore, but not Clinton. I am doing my best here, but I can't be sure with you. Is that simple enough for you?

100 posted on 01/21/2004 6:50:34 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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