Giuliani in 2008?

Cedar Ra[ids Gazette ^ | January 20, 2004 | Dick Hogan

[summer]

Re your post #78 - I agree. I think it will be Gov Jeb Bush as the GOP candidate in 2008. And, yes, I know his last name is Bush. But voters in FL love him, and he is the one and only GOP gov in this state to win re-election (and, by a landslide). Being able to win FL matters. Plus, he will appeal to many voters who never before voted GOP, while being true to core beliefs. He is definately a winning national candidate, IMO. But, I don't know if he will decide to run.

[summer]

And, there's no doubt in my mind Jeb Bush is the one GOP candidate in 2008 the Dem Party leaders really fear. That's why they were so eager to get rid of Gov Bush in 2000. Gov Bush is a great campaigner, has lots of international experience in trade, and speaks fluent Spanish. He polls high with women and Hispanics, as well as seniors, three groups that usually vote Dem.

[altair]

Rudy's Job is to run against Hillary

... And he lost ...

[altair]

I'd love to see him run against Hillary; he may even scare her out of the race.

It's been done before and Hillary! scared Rudy out of the race.

[JohnnyZ]

I think he would pursue the war on terror and has broad appeal to the disgusting moderates. No one has ever mentioned a Rep who has the slightest chance.

Okay, go ahead, tell me how Mark Sanford and Craig Benson and Tim Pawlenty and Bill Frist and George Allen can't appeal to moderates. What, you have no frickin' clue who they are? Oh, and you have no idea who Ehrlich and Mitt and Chuckie and Linda are, either?

Ignorance is no excuse for . . . well, for ignorance.

[BroncosFan]

Rudy's record as mayor is less impressive than it appears. If 9/11 had not occurred, his second term would have been remembered for lost opportunities (failed to fight rent control, punted on education reform), petty tyranny (endless squabbles with museums), and his divorce. 9/11 saved his political future. And he's VERY capable of pulling a Dean-like insane moment.

[CPT Clay]

Frist, Owens or Pawlenty.

[BroncosFan]

John Kyl.

[ZULU]

No. No. No. and NO again.

Giuliani is NO Republican, regardless of what he calls himself.

He showed up in drag at a homosexual event. He believes in a National testing program to own a fiream and National gun registration. He helped Clinton campaign for his gun bills. He refused to support Pataki and Whitman in their bids for governor (that was BEFORE it was revealed they too, were left-wing RINOs.)

[dangus]

>> Rudy will make an awesome president in 2008. Otherwise there is no one who could win. >>

Where's one of those "TOM-TANCREDO-FOR-PRESIDENT" People around when you need one?

[dangus]

Actually, you can count on one finger the number of people who have won without being Gov., Gen., or VP.:

Sen. John F. Kennedy.

The country likes chief executives

But mayor of New York is being chief executive over 7 million people... Few governors rule so many.

[mrustow]

I think Rudy is about as unstable as Dean.

Giuliani is a crisis-slayer, but he loses his head under normal conditions, and starts attacking street vendors, taxi drivers, anyone. He's something like the Martin Sheen character in Apocalypse Now.

[presidio9]

I'd like to hear both arguments...without the catty bullsh**.

TS. The other person that you were referring to was trolling this thread with his own agenda, namely immigration. The article does not mention immigration. Rudy has no firm stand on immigration. It is irrelevant. If you are not smart enough to spot the obvious differences between President Bush and my former mayor, I can't help you. However, I suggest you start by comparing their opinions on abortion, marriage, guns, and homosexuality. You may find this enlightening.

[presidio9]

If he's willing to blow Osama away, you know he'll go after terrorists.

You don't think that there are plenty of Conservatives (or even non-liberals) who would also be willing to "blow Osama away?"

[presidio9]

Try to offer some semblance of an argument -- ANYTHING! -- that this is true and maybe I won't consider you a raving left wing pro-abort intent on getting a liberal in the White House.

I scratch my head every time I see the ridiculous "Rudy or Hillary, take your pick" assessment. Sure, Hillary's "the most admired woman in America," according to People Magazine, or Entertainment Tonight, or some other "important" gage of public opinion. But she's also easily the most hated person in America. She is the reigning world champion of polarization. Will 30% of the voters come out just to vote for Hillary? Probably. But 40% will come out just to vote against her. Rick Lazio was an unknown with no credentials who joined the race at the last minute in a very liberal state. Hillary rode algore's coat tails during a presidential election. She still only got 56% of the vote. A healthy margin, but hardly a blowout.

[presidio9]

He showed up in drag at a homosexual event.

[wtc911]

"Hillary rode Al Gore's coat tails"....Um, Let's forget for a moment that the two ran with a widely publicized gulf between their campaigns (remember Al wanting to distance himself from the Clintons?) you can't ride the coat tails of a loser and win yourself.

Another example of erroneous opinion presented as fact.

[wtc911]

You say that Rudy's track record on gun control is a clear indicator that he would be much stricter on the issue than Bush....

What exactly is Rudy's record on gun control? During the time of his one elected position what changes did he make in the NYC gun laws?

Do you know or are you giving misinfomed opinion as fact again?

[Aquinasfan]

I'll fight a pro-abortion Republican presidential candidate with everything I have.

[presidio9]

"Hillary rode Al Gore's coat tails"....Um, Let's forget for a moment that the two ran with a widely publicized gulf between their campaigns (remember Al wanting to distance himself from the Clintons?) you can't ride the coat tails of a loser and win yourself.

Another example of erroneous opinion presented as fact.

Now I remember why I generally avoid all attempts to penetrate that thick skull of yours. The only votes that counted as far as Hillary Clinton was concerned were the ones cast in NY. Al Gore won NY by a landslide (60%).

It is universally accepted that people who show up to vote for a presidential candidate generally honor the ticket straight down the line. Five percent of NY voters voted for Gore, but not Clinton. I am doing my best here, but I can't be sure with you. Is that simple enough for you?