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If MLK lived, would he still be a hero?
Jewish World Review ^ | 1-19-04 | Clarence Paige

Posted on 01/19/2004 3:07:43 PM PST by Sir_Humphrey

As Americans prepare once again to take a day off to honor the late Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., I wonder whether America would be as eager to honor him if he were still around. I'm not alone in my wondering.

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1 posted on 01/19/2004 3:07:43 PM PST by Sir_Humphrey
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To: Sir_Humphrey
I cannot put my finger on, but there is something sacred about the memory of MLK.

I had to write a college essay on his "Dream" speech a few years ago. It is a very profound speech and should be required reading for all Americans.

I really don't care about his earlier years. At this point, I really don't care about his sexual escapades. I don't want my vision of him polluted.

I despise the way his memory has been whored out by the likes of Sharpton, Jackson, Farrakhan, and now, it seems, even his own family.
2 posted on 01/19/2004 3:21:49 PM PST by baltodog (So, can we assume that a job that an illegal alien won't do must be REALLY bad?....)
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To: baltodog
I often wish Martin Luther King were still around to see if he would smack Jesse Jackson (perhaps just verbally, but literally would be good), upside the head.
3 posted on 01/19/2004 3:25:30 PM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: baltodog
I can't get passed his abuse of women.
4 posted on 01/19/2004 3:26:28 PM PST by candeee
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To: Sir_Humphrey
..a new documentary that premiers on public broadcast TV stations on Jan. 19 and focuses on his last five years before his assassination in 1968.

Those are what I call King's "forgotten years." They tend to receive short mention in most accounts of King's life, since they lack the inspiring, unifying drama of his triumphant trifecta: the 1963 March on Washington, the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act.

Ah, Clarence, 1965 to 1968 is three years, not five.

5 posted on 01/19/2004 3:28:25 PM PST by 07055
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To: candeee
passed=past
6 posted on 01/19/2004 3:30:52 PM PST by candeee
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To: candeee
I can't get passed he plagiarzed his dissertation.
7 posted on 01/19/2004 3:31:06 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane
Yes. He globally plagiarized (copied it all from someone else's work) his doctoral dissertation. Further, MLK associated with known communists, and was a serial adulterer who could put bubba to shame. MLK was a wart on the ass of American history.
8 posted on 01/19/2004 3:37:06 PM PST by Pragmatist (It's US and our friends against the world. Get ready!)
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To: baltodog
Today, in these parts all the local, state and federal offices are closed. The politicians, the teachers and students get the day off.....the rest of us are working.

But we can't get our mail, make a deposit, do business with city hall or state government or contact our politicians.

Meanwhile the Burlington Peace and Justice Center is celebrating with a speech by a "former Black Panther leader."

Wow!

I would be more than happy to celebrate the memory of folks like George Washington Carver or Booker T. Washington who did something for all Americans.

9 posted on 01/19/2004 3:37:44 PM PST by JimVT
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To: baltodog
What you call "sacred" is that good brainwashing that the government schools have given you. Thats ok though, I felt the same way about him till i learned the truth.
10 posted on 01/19/2004 3:38:34 PM PST by Gottwnz (I'm gottwnz and i approve this tagline)
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To: Sir_Humphrey
No, he wouldn't be a hero. He'd be a joke like Shakedown Jackson.
11 posted on 01/19/2004 3:40:11 PM PST by lilylangtree
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To: baltodog
What part of the phrase we hear at this time of year, that post-marked MLK 'Dream' speech, do the 'democrats/liberals' adhere to, follow and uphold??? "Judge a person by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin" (I paraphrase)

Would seem to me that CONSERVATIVES most likely represent policies that confirm MLK's thoughts and beliefs.

Hypocrisy by the libs:
Quota's
Affirmative action initiatives
anti-Academic Freedom initiatives
anti-Equal Opportunity hiring practices
Number of Black Democrats: Past-presidential admin. Cabinet members
Congressional Black Caucus
NAACP
Others. . . Jackson's Rainbow foundation, Sharpton, Farrakhan, Mosely-Braun, etc. (the list is long. . .)
12 posted on 01/19/2004 3:45:19 PM PST by BluSky (“Don’t make me come down there.”)
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To: Sir_Humphrey
It would all depend upon whether he succumbed to the peculiarly black malady that confuses rights with privileges.
14 posted on 01/19/2004 3:52:19 PM PST by Agnes Heep
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To: Sir_Humphrey
If MLK had lived........

What kind of car would he drive?

15 posted on 01/19/2004 3:54:15 PM PST by umgud (speaking strictly as an infidel,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,)
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To: baltodog
"I despise the way his memory has been whored out by the likes of Sharpton, Jackson, Farrakhan, and now, it seems, even his own family."

And the Rat party and complicit press. MLK would be GOP were he alive today and he saw who the "civil rights" leaders claim to be....

16 posted on 01/19/2004 3:55:08 PM PST by eureka! (The ongoing destruction of the Rat party is giving me smile wrinkles.....)
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To: Sir_Humphrey
This is a great question. His words and actions leave little doubt that he looked to Christ for a model of leadership. You can go to google, query for Dr Martin Luther King Jr, pull up a page of quotations, and come to the conclusion that he was a secular leader. However, you can go to google, do the same search with the word "christ" and retrieve a completely different set of quotes (example below). There is little doubt in my mind that if he were alive today, and didn't compromise on his core principals, he would confuse the heck out of the ACLU......

We cannot be truly Christian people so long as we flaunt the central teachings of Jesus: brotherly love and the Golden Rule.

I am in Birmingham because injustice is here. Just as the eighth century prophets left their little villages and carried their "thus saith the Lord" far beyond the boundaries of their home towns; and just as the Apostle Paul left his little village of Tarsus and carried the gospel of Jesus Christ to practically every hamlet and city of the Graeco-Roman world, I too am compelled to carry the gospel of freedom beyond my particular home town. Like Paul, I must constantly respond to the Macedonian call for aid.

We have waited for more than three hundred and forty years for our constitutional and God-given rights.

A just law is a man-made code that squares with the moral law or the law of God. An unjust law is a code that is out of harmony with the moral law. To put it in the terms of Saint Thomas Aquinas, an unjust law is a human law that is not rooted in eternal and natural law.

Of course, there is nothing new about this kind of civil disobedience. It was seen sublimely in the refusal of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego to obey the laws of Nebuchadnezzar because a higher moral law was involved. It was practiced superbly by the early Christians who were willing to face hungry lions and the excruciating pain of chopping blocks, before submitting to certain unjust laws of the Roman empire. I'm grateful to God that, through the Negro church, the dimension of nonviolence entered our struggle.

Was not Jesus an extremist for love -- "Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, pray for them that despitefully use you." Was not Amos an extremist for justice -- "Let justice roll down like waters and righteousness like a mighty stream." Was not Paul an extremist for the gospel of Jesus Christ -- "I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus." Was not Martin Luther an extremist -- "Here I stand; I can do none other so help me God." Was not John Bunyan an extremist -- "I will stay in jail to the end of my days before I make a butchery of my conscience." Was not Abraham Lincoln an extremist -- "This nation cannot survive half slave and half free." Was not Thomas Jefferson an extremist -- "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal." So the question is not whether we will be extremist but what kind of extremist will we be. Will we be extremists for hate or will we be extremists for love? Will we be extremists for the preservation of injustice--or will we be extremists for the cause of justice? In that dramatic scene on Calvary's hill, three men were crucified. We must not forget that all three were crucified for the same crime--the crime of extremism. Two were extremists for immorality, and thusly fell below their environment. The other, Jesus Christ, was an extremist for love, truth and goodness, and thereby rose above his environment.

Now is the time to make justice a reality for all of God's children.

Now is the time to make justice a reality for all of God's children.

If you will protest courageously, and yet with dignity and Christian love, when the history books are written in future generations, the historians will have to pause and say, "There lived a great people—a black people—who injected new meaning and dignity into the veins of civilization."

17 posted on 01/19/2004 3:55:41 PM PST by Joe Anybody
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To: baltodog
At this point, I really don't care about his sexual escapades. I don't want my vision of him polluted.

Well, now you know how the Clintonoids feel about Slick Willy.

18 posted on 01/19/2004 4:25:42 PM PST by ikka
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To: Joe Anybody
This is a great question. His words and actions leave little doubt that he looked to Christ for a model of leadership. You can go to google, query for Dr Martin Luther King Jr, pull up a page of quotations, and come to the conclusion that he was a secular leader. However, you can go to google, do the same search with the word "christ" and retrieve a completely different set of quotes (example below). There is little doubt in my mind that if he were alive today, and didn't compromise on his core principals, he would confuse the heck out of the ACLU......

He would also confuse all the liberals and even MLK JR. because I distinctly remember that King was not for gun control, and not a liberal.

King preached and practiced non-violence. His demonstrations in the 1950's and 1960's were not fought with guns, but were peaceful. Yet, he was not anti-gun as I remember. I distinctly remember him saying at least once that the right to bear arms is for the black man too. And in response to a question about blacks still being discriminated after the 1965 civil rights act, King said that he cant make white people love blacks, but if blacks have rights then they can have guns, and they can shoot someone trying to lynch them. Seems he had it right , demonstrate nonviolently, but its ok for (black) americans to own guns for self defense.

I also dont remember king wanting affirmative action, quotas, handouts or reparations for blacks, he seemed rather to want color blind laws - nothing special or harmful for either whites or blacks.

19 posted on 01/19/2004 4:31:13 PM PST by waterstraat
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To: Sir_Humphrey
If MLK lived, would he still be a hero?

He'd probably be selling his own line of electric grills.
20 posted on 01/19/2004 4:32:31 PM PST by aruanan
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