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1 posted on 01/19/2004 6:19:22 AM PST by Dr. Marten
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2 posted on 01/19/2004 6:21:14 AM PST by Dr. Marten
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To their [the Clinton kindergarten rabble stuck in its '60s time warp] mentality, there is no history, there is only the moment — nothing else counts.

Well stated.

4 posted on 01/19/2004 6:30:55 AM PST by jigsaw (Infidel-American.)
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Why is it that every time I see or hear 'China', a vision of Billy Jeff Blythe Klintoon ruining off with bags full of money leaps to mind?!?
5 posted on 01/19/2004 6:34:20 AM PST by Condor51 ("Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites." -- Standing Wolf)
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Sun Tzu indicated that "all warfare is deception."

America is being decieved on a massive and unbelievably proficient scale. IMHO, it will ultimately lead to war.

6 posted on 01/19/2004 6:35:53 AM PST by Jeff Head
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Once "Liberals" realize that Western Civilization is on a collision course with Oriental racism, they'll be quick to assign victim status to the racists.
10 posted on 01/19/2004 6:41:55 AM PST by Savage Beast (Whom will the terrorists vote for? Not George Bush--that's for sure! ~Happy2BMe)
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Since the Clinton administration action's with respect to the Chicoms became known, I have always wondered how much money the First Pervert has in offshore bank accounts (provide by the Chicoms to pay for the technical info that Clinton made available to them).

I will probably never know, but the truth will out.

11 posted on 01/19/2004 6:42:21 AM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (We are assured that all men will be judged by an impartial judge.)
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Strip this sorry story to the bare bones and we find a similar tale unfolded under the Clinton administration. The administration's attitude toward Beijing is strikingly similar to that of Moscow's toward Berlin up to June 22, 1941. It too was a one-way street, with the ironic exception of tank design.
The Germans learnt all they needed to know about the Red Army and its capability. That knowledge almost lost Europe to Nazi barbarism. But the Clinton kindergarten rabble, stuck in its '60s time warp, was unable to comprehend any of this. To their mentality, there is no history, there is only the moment — nothing else counts. This is why it found nothing wrong with selling out to the Chinese military, of making arrangements that endangered national security.

Problem is, if you're making the comparison, the US in relation to China isn't the Soviet Union in relation to Germany prior to WWII.

It's RUSSIA in relation to China now.

The other thing of interest is that, oddly, ISRAELI companies have been selling or trying to sell an enormous amount of military technology to China, yet, (go figure) you never see posts/articles complaining about that on FR. The focus is securely on the old Clinton obsession.

13 posted on 01/19/2004 7:06:07 AM PST by John H K
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I challenge anyone to name an American that ever committed a greater act of treason than Bill Clinton.
14 posted on 01/19/2004 7:18:50 AM PST by HankReardon
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Chinese are buying up America
21 posted on 01/19/2004 7:37:33 AM PST by fatso
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China is all puff and no stuff without power projection. Sure they have a huge military in terms of numbers but they have no ability to support it outside their boarders. Don't forget that their military is stuck in the WW2/cold war era (ie slow heavy armor, antiquated tactics) If they occupy Taiwan we would own the strait to choke them out of there. The only real threat they are to the US military is the ICBMs.

Besides China wants economic domination, the military option is a no-win situation.

24 posted on 01/19/2004 7:42:03 AM PST by rudypoot
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This is where the "move on" people came up with their name! It's time to move on, Bill Clinton is no longer president! My answer to them is should we ignore and forget the crimes committed in the past by all other criminals? Just move on? They are not president either.
32 posted on 01/19/2004 7:54:03 AM PST by HankReardon
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At any rate this article is so much Chinese scaremongering. Its very light on details, and very heavy on

Nazis
Clinton
Sun Tzu

Certainly all three merit concern, in their own way. This article does little except beat the dead horses of Chinese nationalism and fear of suprise attacks, with a sprinkle of Chinese military philosophy (which, in case anyone hasn't noticed, stopped working for them some time ago)

50 posted on 01/19/2004 8:32:35 AM PST by Steel Wolf ("Inveniemus viam aut faciemus" - We will either find a way or make one.)
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If the author thought it was bad with bill clinton selling out America for campaign cash, wait until a real ideologue - Hillary Clinton - squeaks into office (*shudder*).

Then the Hitler/Stalin comparisons will really be valid!

57 posted on 01/19/2004 8:41:16 AM PST by Gritty ("Only force will preserve liberty. Give up that force, and you are inevitably ruined-Patrick Henry)
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bump
58 posted on 01/19/2004 8:42:43 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you must; perform without fail that what you resolve.)
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"I am not suggesting that Clinton and his kindergarten pals were Chinese agents just because they were liberally rewarded, far from it: only that they have behaved in a way that would classify their actions as those of "inward spies" because their indifference to national security had the same consequences."

We seem to forget that Clinton "loathed the military" and was not interested in maintaining the sovereignty of the United States.

He and those in his administration said as much on many occasions.

61 posted on 01/19/2004 8:47:26 AM PST by nightdriver
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71 posted on 01/19/2004 9:16:52 AM PST by Cacique
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Three months after Versailles Von Seeckt was drawing up plans for the next invasion of France and the Low countries. All that was needed was for a Hitler person to step forward on the stage. Time and circumstances.
73 posted on 01/19/2004 9:27:48 AM PST by cynicom
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