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Hummer, Jeep rivalry heating up - SUV makers sling mud, lawsuits and commercials
Reuters ^

Posted on 01/18/2004 7:35:24 PM PST by jmcclain19

DETROIT - A long-simmering dispute between the beefy sport utility brands Hummer and Jeep has heated up with one-upmanship claims and accusations of copied designs.

The mud-slinging between the off-road SUV brands began nearly three years ago when DaimlerChrysler AG’s Jeep claimed the about-to-be launched Hummer H2 from General Motors Corp. copied its grille.

That battle ended when a judge allowed the H2 to go into production, but now the war has moved from the courtroom to television commercials, the printed page and the auto show floor.

At stake is one of the fastest-growing and most profitable segments of the market. With sales of the Hummer H2 far above forecasts since it was launched 19 months ago, and GM making plans to expand the brand, Hummer is making a serious run at Jeep’s claim to be the premier American off-road SUV.

The latest spat began when Jeep took a shot at Hummer with a recent TV ad that claims Jeeps are better in the mud.

The commercial shows several kids in Jeep pedal cars slogging through an obstacle course, while a yellow Hummer-like SUV, labeled “Imitator,” gets stuck in the muck. A boy in the Hummer look-a-like can only shake his head when a girl says; “If it’s not Trail-Rated, it’s not a Jeep 4x4.”

The ad recalls a Hummer spot, set to the song “Happy Jack” by rock group The Who, in which a boy wins a soapbox derby with a Hummer-like car by outsmarting his opponents and driving off-road.

Chrysler spokesman Jason Vines said the Jeep ad is “good-natured fun,” and it’s common for competitors to knock other products in commercials.

He was more irritated with suggestions that Jeep has copied Hummer.

Earlier this month, Jeep took the wraps off a concept SUV, the large and boxy Jeep Rescue, that bears a strong resemblance to the Hummer H2. Like the H2, the Rescue has round headlights, a slotted grille and exposed hinges around its four doors. Both vehicles also sit high for easy ground clearance in rocky terrain.

“You know how this business is, you show something and it’s copied,” Hummer General Manager Mike DiGiovanni, standing amid the Hummer exhibit at the Detroit auto show, told Reuters. “My reference point is this auto show with all the, as the media calls it, the Hummer wannabes.”

“Who’s zooming who here? Who’s copying who?,” Chrysler’s Vines said, noting that Jeep has been around for 60 years. “I personally don’t think it’s a copy.”

Indeed, the Rescue also shares similarities with its smaller cousin, the Jeep Wrangler. Both the Jeep and the Hummer trace their roots to military vehicles, where function dictates form, and to the same company. Jeep’s former owner American Motors created AM General in 1971 to build military vehicles, and eventually the Humvee truck.

Looks aside, Chrysler group marketing chief Joe Eberhardt questioned the ruggedness of the Hummer H2 in January when he said in an interview with Automotive News that the SUV wouldn’t be able to negotiate the Rubicon Trail, an off-road route in California that is the traditional test of every Jeep.

Hummer’s DiGiovanni said he would send a letter and documentation to Automotive News challenging Eberhardt’s assertion.

This is quite a bit of bluster for two brands that don’t directly compete against each other yet. Prices for the Hummer H2 start at about $50,000, far above any Jeep.

But that will change next year when Hummer launches the smaller H3, which will be priced starting in the $30,000 range, competing directly with the new Jeep Grand Cherokee, which will debut at the New York Auto Show in April. Longer-term, Hummer officials are talking about adding an even smaller, less expensive model, while the Rescue hints at a larger, H2-size model in Jeep’s future.

“Hummer is the relatively new kid on the block, making waves. The head-to-head competition is going to get extremely severe in the next couple of years,” said Dennis Virag, president of The Automotive Consulting Group, based in Ann Arbor, Michigan.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News
KEYWORDS: daimlerchrysler; generalmotors; h2; hummer; jeep; suv
For other off road fans, the two newest additions to the SUV family, and the source of some of the mudslinging.
The H3



and the Jeep Rescue

1 posted on 01/18/2004 7:35:25 PM PST by jmcclain19
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To: jmcclain19
Competition is good. Let the buyer decide who the winner is.
2 posted on 01/18/2004 8:00:06 PM PST by Khurkris (Ranger On...)
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To: jmcclain19
Sign me up for one Rescue, no thanks on the H3.

Once a Jeep fan, always a Jeep fan.

Also, the Rescue is dead sexy and the H3 simply okayish.

The Rescue looks like a Wrangler on Steroids. I had a Wrangler once and loved it. Wife made me sell it, buying another next year.
3 posted on 01/18/2004 8:00:19 PM PST by AdequateMan
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To: jmcclain19
I just want to know if Jeep is going to make a Scrambler, based on the new Wrangler Unlimited. That's what I'm saving my nickles for.
4 posted on 01/18/2004 8:00:40 PM PST by NickRails
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To: jmcclain19
Note to Jeep: the metrosexual posed in front of your top iron is a bad marketing ploy.
5 posted on 01/18/2004 8:35:52 PM PST by Leroy S. Mort
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To: AdequateMan
Have a Jeep, love my Jeep. Am a Jeep fan. And I am a female.

Red

6 posted on 01/18/2004 8:41:35 PM PST by Conservative4Ever (Last year I was conceited.........this year I'm perfect.)
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To: Leroy S. Mort
the metrosexual posed in front of your top iron is a bad marketing ploy."<<...not to mention his loafers look a little light!
7 posted on 01/18/2004 8:45:35 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: jmcclain19
I'm still sold on H2 but hoping they come out with a diesel before I have to make a decision. I hear that Land Rover Discovery has a diesel version in Europe that does just as well off road, yet pulls 25+mpg. Here's hoping the 2004 upgrade here in the U.S. has similar features. I know it has stretched it's wheelbase by 13 inches. Quite a significant increase in size for the Disco.
8 posted on 01/18/2004 9:34:05 PM PST by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: jmcclain19
Like the H2, the Rescue has round headlights, a slotted grille and exposed hinges around its four doors.

Like the H2? Jeep CJs had all of that back when "hummer" was just another synonym for a Lewinsky. The Rescue looks great, but it's way more vehicle than I need right now. I'll stick with my Wrangler.

9 posted on 01/18/2004 9:47:13 PM PST by Denver Ditdat
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Hummer’s are too dam big. Yes there cool I’d like to have one. But when I head out in the woods I’ll take my CJ-7 Get on the narrow trails up in the MT. trying to fit between trees or going up a creek bed It’s why I leave my 4x4 p/u at home. one reason I got a Jeep in the first place.
There finding this out in Afgan. too.
10 posted on 01/18/2004 10:57:36 PM PST by quietolong
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To: Conservative4Ever
We bought a new 1997 Jeep Wrangler. It was a nightmare.
Jeep knew it was a nightmare because it was always back at the dealership. That fixed the interest in Jeeps for every one in this family.
11 posted on 01/18/2004 11:02:46 PM PST by oldironsides
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To: NickRails
I think the scrambler concept is based on a V-8 the Jeep Compass is with the new v-6. I think that's what DC is going for.

As for price, JP magazine had a cost breakdown of TJ vs H1 and you could purchase SEVERAL TJ's and some tailgating supplies for the cost of one H1!

12 posted on 01/18/2004 11:37:10 PM PST by endthematrix (To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
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Yeah, that nancyboy looks ready to rumble off-road, all right.

13 posted on 01/18/2004 11:39:18 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Dick Gephardt. Before he dicks you.)
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To: Denver Ditdat
Like the H2?

To me, the picture of the Jeep Rescue looks like they welded a CJ front to a Land Rover Body.

Looks kewl, tho.

14 posted on 01/19/2004 4:23:55 AM PST by woofer
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To: jmcclain19
The commercial shows several kids in Jeep pedal cars slogging through an obstacle course, while a yellow Hummer-like SUV, labeled “Imitator,” gets stuck in the muck. A boy in the Hummer look-a-like can only shake his head when a girl says; “If it’s not Trail-Rated, it’s not a Jeep 4x4.”

I've seen that commercial ... it's funny ... but I'd take a new H2/H3 and/or Jeep Cherokee anyday ... like 'em both ... but yeah, a Hummer is nearly too big ... I'd hate to be in a Geo Metro and have one of those things get loose on ice behind me ... I took an off ramp *days* after the ice had been cleared ... except a local city left one of the three lanes covered with ice ... directly on the freeway off-ramp ... I got lucky ... a hour later, 4 cars didn't ... I reported it to a cop but I guess the city sent nobody out ...
15 posted on 01/19/2004 10:51:17 AM PST by Bobby777
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To: oldironsides
Sorry you had such a horrible time with the Wrangler. I have a 1999 Cherokee and just love it. Was 97 a bad year for Wrangler's or just you got a bad one?

Red

16 posted on 01/19/2004 2:11:56 PM PST by Conservative4Ever (Last year I was conceited.........this year I'm perfect.)
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To: ExSoldier
I'm still sold on H2 but hoping they come out with a diesel before I have to make a decision...

.....sorry, but you'll have a long wait.....

.....the Duramax is way too big to fit.....

.....and the 6.5 fits, but doesn't have room for the turbo.....:(

.....the guys at KASCAR are trying to stuff the super charged version of the 6.5 now.....

.....if it works, it'll be an aftermarket conversion.....

.....and will take at least 2 years after it's comeleted to make it to production.....

.....only if there is a interest!.....

17 posted on 01/28/2004 9:43:30 AM PST by cyberaxe ((.....does this mean I'm kewl now?.....))
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To: cyberaxe
RATS!!! What about the possibility of a Land Rover Discovery in it's newly remodeled form to appear later this year as a diesel model? It's available overseas. Think it might make it's way here? What about the good old 4X4 Suburban re-appearing in a turbodiesel? The last year for that was 1996, I think. I keep hearing that diesel is the wave of the future, based on European sales. I hope so, it's the only way to get decent mileage on any good sized SUV and still have good power.
18 posted on 02/02/2004 4:37:52 PM PST by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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