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Posted on 01/18/2004 5:53:14 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Female, forty and furious January 19, 2004 - 11:24AM

On the attack ... Sharon Stone, Holly Hunter and Meg Ryan.

Hollywood's most formidable female stars have united to condemn "sexist" film moguls for failing to find roles for women over 40.

Meg Ryan, Holly Hunter, Charlotte Rampling, Sharon Stone and Whoopi Goldberg are among a group of 30 actresses who have taken part in a documentary by Rosanna Arquette to be screened in Britain this summer.

The documentary is seen as a thinly veiled attack on moguls such as Harvey Weinstein - the portly co-owner of Miramax - who control the film industry and the careers of Hollywood actresses.

Arquette, 44, who rose to fame when she starred opposite Madonna in the 1985 film Desperately Seeking Susan, said that her interest in what happened to 40-year-old women in Hollywood was sparked by the experience of

Debra Winger, the star of Terms of Endearment, who announced that she was quitting in 1996 aged 40. "Ageing," Arquette said this week, "equals career death."

In the documentary, called Searching For Debra Winger, Winger, who has been nominated for three Oscars, tells how she decided to quit and reveals that while she was working on An Officer And a Gentlemen the notorious producer Don Simpson told her that she needed diet pills.

Julianna Margulies, 37, who starred in ER opposite George Clooney, speaks frankly about the rigours of the casting couch. "You ask anyone that has been in those [audition] meetings. They say, 'Yeah that actress is great but would you f*** her?' And they ask all the men in the room."

The documentary will provoke heated debate in Hollywood, which has long been accused of discriminating against women for their age and beauty. Arquette told London's Sunday Telegraph that she had already received criticism from film bosses. "There are a lot of misogynistic men who are very angry about it," she said. "They've told me, 'It's just a bunch of chicks sitting around bitching about us'."

In the film, Daryl Hannah, 43, says that the root of the problem lies "with the guys who run the studios. They choose projects that they identify with and they say, 'I'd like to be that man having an affair with a chick of 18'."

Samantha Mathis, 33, agrees. "It's the revenge of the nerds syndrome, all these guys couldn't get a girlfriend in high school. They are smart but they have no social skills; suddenly they are running studios in a position of power."

Arquette's subjects are candid and often angry about the way the industry has spat them out once they have aged. Martha Plimpton, 33, says: "For women it's either, she's a starlet or she's an old hag." Whoopi Goldberg adds that film producers "want you to think that you're done" once actresses had turned 40.

Arquette, who is currently filming another documentary about musicians, continues to act and has recently been filming two comedies with the British actresses Imogen Stubbs and Jennifer Saunders.

She says that certain elements of Hollywood have always annoyed her. "I find it offensive that in Hollywood a 68-year-old movie star is paired with a 30-year-old, or someone even younger. You think, 'Come on, who are you kidding'. It is offensive."

Other interviewees said that they had financial problems when the parts dried up. Theresa Russell, 46, says: "It was really hard, I didn't get an audition for years and I started running out of money. I thought, what else can I do? I resent being in this situation. They want to put you out to pasture."

In any other profession, she says, "your work would get better the older you got". Holly Hunter, 45, who won an Oscar for The Piano, believes actresses are at their peak at 40. "The deal is that actresses who are good have probably never been better once they hit 40. Once I hit 40 I had charms that I didn't have when I was 30 and I want to use them."

Teri Garr, 53, who has appeared in more than 50 films, including Tootsie, insists that films should reflect the existence of older women in real life. "There are people who are my age and older who still exist in the world, so there should be writers who write stories that include them. There should be parts for us, even if they are smaller."

She adds: "I remember when I was young the great actresses telling me, 'Wait till they tell you your face has been ravaged by time'."

Diane Lane, 39, dislikes the vocabulary used to describe older women's looks. "If you want to live you must age. Beauty has to be a certain way [in Hollywood]." If you age, she says, "it is described as 'damaged beauty' or 'sad beauty' or 'aged beauty'." She adds: "Character actresses will always work freely because they are not coming from the immaculate time when one looked perfect." Adrienne Shelley, 38, the star of The Unbelievable Truth, tells of how much sex plays a part of being a Hollywood actress. She says: "I get a call in my car on the way to an audition from the agent. He said, 'What is really important is that they think you are f***able'.

"The man walks in and looks right at my tits and I saw in his face that there was no way I was going to get the part. And yet in the real world there is no way I would give this guy the time of day."

Lane urges women to make more of an issue of the problem. "When women don't want to talk about these issues it is so awful," she says. "Hiding away just perpetuates the problem.

"Women want to watch other women of their own age sometimes. All these young people are great but let them watch each other. We want to watch us."


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: actress; aging; castingcouch; hollyweird; hollywood
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To: mrobison
Still waiting at this altar...

Oh $hit! I *knew* I forgot to do something. Sorry! :(

441 posted on 01/20/2004 3:42:36 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick ("Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent" -- John Maynard Keynes)
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To: SauronOfMordor
You've got a point there Sauron. But don't forget there are a few older men out there who can keep pace w/you youngins, and have learned a few tricks along the way. Nonetheless, your point on 'vigor' is indisputable (sp?). And I have one last thing to say: You go, boy!
442 posted on 01/20/2004 4:53:40 PM PST by AlbionGirl ("Ha cambiato occhi per la coda.")
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To: AlbionGirl
But don't forget there are a few older men out there who can keep pace w/you youngins, and have learned a few tricks along the way.

I'm no longer a "youngin", the time described having been over twenty years ago. I HAVE learned a few tricks since then 8-)

443 posted on 01/20/2004 5:13:00 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (Look as if you're playing by the other guy's rules, while quietly playing by your own)
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To: XBob
But interestingly enough the paring of the two 'beautiul people' were rated at the bottom in happiness/success.

Sounds like wishful thinking on the part of the study participants. LOL!

444 posted on 01/20/2004 5:46:08 PM PST by wizardoz ("Crikey! I've lost my mojo!")
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To: Sub-Driver
Some one who DID. put his own money in


The Pope's Thumbs Up for Gibson's 'Passion' (Liberal Jewish writer accuses Mel of using the Pope)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1061546/posts

445 posted on 01/20/2004 7:15:30 PM PST by quietolong
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To: wizardoz
444-"Sounds like wishful thinking on the part of the study participants. LOL!"

seems to me it was done among college students doing the ratings. so perhaps getting 'shot down' was more fresh in their minds.

However, think about it - how many 'successful' marriages are there between two 'beautiful people'. Seems to me the last famous one, Brittainy, didn't last even a whole day.

446 posted on 01/20/2004 7:58:44 PM PST by XBob
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To: SauronOfMordor
I like your way of thinking! And you sound like a great father for your daughter.
447 posted on 01/20/2004 10:34:04 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: quietolong
Thank God for REAL men like Mel.
448 posted on 01/20/2004 10:37:31 PM PST by LisaMalia (Buckeye Fan since birth!!)
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To: macrahanish #1
I guess the choice is to put deters on aging at the hands of plastic surgeons like Melanie G seems to have done or age naturaly.

Personally although not a "hottie" I prefer nature to age me with a little color to cover the grey, shaved and plucked and always walk with a bounce like I am satified.... with life as it is.

I did get a hernia fixed partly for cosmetic reasons but it was also a medical decision.
449 posted on 01/21/2004 2:28:28 AM PST by oceanperch ( Save a Pepsi! Drink Coca Cola)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Agree story, production and presentation are ahead of eye candy male or female.

Colin Ferrel has his section in my DVD collection though.

As I posted earlier alot of older actors are now in the "Christian made for TV movies" and those are cool too.
450 posted on 01/21/2004 2:35:48 AM PST by oceanperch ( Save a Pepsi! Drink Coca Cola)
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To: SkyPilot
Heh Heh.
451 posted on 01/21/2004 2:38:26 AM PST by oceanperch ( Save a Pepsi! Drink Coca Cola)
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To: WIladyconservative
Good point. If they saved their money while they could get good roles, they should have the cash and connections to finance their own movies featuring women in their 40's and 50's.

When those movies are great commercial successes, then everybody will copy the formula and women won't be able to get roles in movies until they turn 40.

452 posted on 01/21/2004 2:41:49 AM PST by White Eagle
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To: SauronOfMordor; XBob
Older, ugly women, and poor, inept, low-status guys are similarly discriminated against in the mating game



add young to poor, inept, low status guys and you now know who is keeping the older ugly women happy.
453 posted on 01/21/2004 2:44:07 AM PST by oceanperch ( Save a Pepsi! Drink Coca Cola)
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To: wizardoz; XBob
Sounds like wishful thinking on the part of the study participants. LOL!

In the pretty/not-pretty pairings, the assumption would be (in order to GET the pretty one) that the not-so-goodlooking person had something going for him besides looks, which would translate into future income. Income translates into comfort, which is conducive to happiness

454 posted on 01/21/2004 4:12:22 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Look as if you're playing by the other guy's rules, while quietly playing by your own)
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To: oceanperch
add young to poor, inept, low status guys and you now know who is keeping the older ugly women happy.

Why else do you think pool cleaner boys have all those interesting stories?

A friend of mine in the construction/carpentry field had lots of bored older housewives chasing after him in his young and poor days when he would do odd jobs at rich folks homes

455 posted on 01/21/2004 4:16:55 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Look as if you're playing by the other guy's rules, while quietly playing by your own)
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To: Sub-Driver
Make an indie movie -- they work and earn big bucks as well, if they target the right audience. If women want to see older women in film, then an indi studio would make a film, make a lotta bucks on it and the studios would clamour to make duplicates. It's market forces pure and simple.
456 posted on 01/21/2004 4:24:56 AM PST by Cronos (W2004!)
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To: FormerACLUmember
Exactly. Now Dame Judi Dench makes movies, so does Meryl Streep and Diane Keaton and others. If the actor is good enough, the parts will come. It's the same for guys. The ones who just look good and can't act will have no career at 30/40. If they can act then they'll last
457 posted on 01/21/2004 4:29:28 AM PST by Cronos (W2004!)
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To: SauronOfMordor
454-"In the pretty/not-pretty pairings, the assumption would be (in order to GET the pretty one) that the not-so-goodlooking person had something going for him besides looks"

I think that was the general concensus.
458 posted on 01/21/2004 7:08:37 AM PST by XBob
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To: oceanperch
Agree story, production and presentation are ahead of eye candy male or female.

Well said. Untalented actors ruin movies, IMO, regardless of how hot they may be. Hey, I like eye candy -- but not when I want to lose myself in a good movie.

Colin Ferrel has his section in my DVD collection though.

And I have *every* Russell Crowe movie ever made -- including the earliest ones, which are now hard to find. Especially the one which starts out with him nekkid on a horse in a stream. ;D

459 posted on 01/21/2004 4:19:11 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick ("Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent" -- John Maynard Keynes)
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To: SauronOfMordor
LMAO
Yes pool boys are notorious. LOL
460 posted on 01/21/2004 10:25:37 PM PST by oceanperch ( Save a Pepsi! Drink Coca Cola)
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