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Female, forty and furious
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Posted on 01/18/2004 5:53:14 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Female, forty and furious January 19, 2004 - 11:24AM

On the attack ... Sharon Stone, Holly Hunter and Meg Ryan.

Hollywood's most formidable female stars have united to condemn "sexist" film moguls for failing to find roles for women over 40.

Meg Ryan, Holly Hunter, Charlotte Rampling, Sharon Stone and Whoopi Goldberg are among a group of 30 actresses who have taken part in a documentary by Rosanna Arquette to be screened in Britain this summer.

The documentary is seen as a thinly veiled attack on moguls such as Harvey Weinstein - the portly co-owner of Miramax - who control the film industry and the careers of Hollywood actresses.

Arquette, 44, who rose to fame when she starred opposite Madonna in the 1985 film Desperately Seeking Susan, said that her interest in what happened to 40-year-old women in Hollywood was sparked by the experience of

Debra Winger, the star of Terms of Endearment, who announced that she was quitting in 1996 aged 40. "Ageing," Arquette said this week, "equals career death."

In the documentary, called Searching For Debra Winger, Winger, who has been nominated for three Oscars, tells how she decided to quit and reveals that while she was working on An Officer And a Gentlemen the notorious producer Don Simpson told her that she needed diet pills.

Julianna Margulies, 37, who starred in ER opposite George Clooney, speaks frankly about the rigours of the casting couch. "You ask anyone that has been in those [audition] meetings. They say, 'Yeah that actress is great but would you f*** her?' And they ask all the men in the room."

The documentary will provoke heated debate in Hollywood, which has long been accused of discriminating against women for their age and beauty. Arquette told London's Sunday Telegraph that she had already received criticism from film bosses. "There are a lot of misogynistic men who are very angry about it," she said. "They've told me, 'It's just a bunch of chicks sitting around bitching about us'."

In the film, Daryl Hannah, 43, says that the root of the problem lies "with the guys who run the studios. They choose projects that they identify with and they say, 'I'd like to be that man having an affair with a chick of 18'."

Samantha Mathis, 33, agrees. "It's the revenge of the nerds syndrome, all these guys couldn't get a girlfriend in high school. They are smart but they have no social skills; suddenly they are running studios in a position of power."

Arquette's subjects are candid and often angry about the way the industry has spat them out once they have aged. Martha Plimpton, 33, says: "For women it's either, she's a starlet or she's an old hag." Whoopi Goldberg adds that film producers "want you to think that you're done" once actresses had turned 40.

Arquette, who is currently filming another documentary about musicians, continues to act and has recently been filming two comedies with the British actresses Imogen Stubbs and Jennifer Saunders.

She says that certain elements of Hollywood have always annoyed her. "I find it offensive that in Hollywood a 68-year-old movie star is paired with a 30-year-old, or someone even younger. You think, 'Come on, who are you kidding'. It is offensive."

Other interviewees said that they had financial problems when the parts dried up. Theresa Russell, 46, says: "It was really hard, I didn't get an audition for years and I started running out of money. I thought, what else can I do? I resent being in this situation. They want to put you out to pasture."

In any other profession, she says, "your work would get better the older you got". Holly Hunter, 45, who won an Oscar for The Piano, believes actresses are at their peak at 40. "The deal is that actresses who are good have probably never been better once they hit 40. Once I hit 40 I had charms that I didn't have when I was 30 and I want to use them."

Teri Garr, 53, who has appeared in more than 50 films, including Tootsie, insists that films should reflect the existence of older women in real life. "There are people who are my age and older who still exist in the world, so there should be writers who write stories that include them. There should be parts for us, even if they are smaller."

She adds: "I remember when I was young the great actresses telling me, 'Wait till they tell you your face has been ravaged by time'."

Diane Lane, 39, dislikes the vocabulary used to describe older women's looks. "If you want to live you must age. Beauty has to be a certain way [in Hollywood]." If you age, she says, "it is described as 'damaged beauty' or 'sad beauty' or 'aged beauty'." She adds: "Character actresses will always work freely because they are not coming from the immaculate time when one looked perfect." Adrienne Shelley, 38, the star of The Unbelievable Truth, tells of how much sex plays a part of being a Hollywood actress. She says: "I get a call in my car on the way to an audition from the agent. He said, 'What is really important is that they think you are f***able'.

"The man walks in and looks right at my tits and I saw in his face that there was no way I was going to get the part. And yet in the real world there is no way I would give this guy the time of day."

Lane urges women to make more of an issue of the problem. "When women don't want to talk about these issues it is so awful," she says. "Hiding away just perpetuates the problem.

"Women want to watch other women of their own age sometimes. All these young people are great but let them watch each other. We want to watch us."


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: actress; aging; castingcouch; hollyweird; hollywood
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To: Sub-Driver
Well, rather than make an angry propaganda film, the typical reaction of liberal feminists, there would seem to be two more practical solutions:

a) Learn to do character acting, like the great actresses of the past.

b) Put up their own money and make films with older women in them. If they are right in thinking there is a market for such films, well and good. Most of these people have been paid millions for their work in the movies, and could well afford to get together and start their own business if they are so confident it would work.
41 posted on 01/18/2004 6:26:51 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: cyborg
hollyweird types are using anti ageing creams containing a small amount of infant foreskin... everytime I hear this the doctor never gives a reason why.

I bought a wallet made of foreskin. If I need a suitcase I just rub it some.....

42 posted on 01/18/2004 6:27:27 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Facts are stubborn things)
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To: exit82
"Also, no way is Teri Garr 53. She was dancing in Elvis movies in the mid sixties. Nice try, Teri."

Wasn't she in one of first season episodes of the original Star Trek? It was the one where Spock and Kirk went back in time to a Saturn launch. I think James Coburn (Cross of Iron) was in that same episode.

43 posted on 01/18/2004 6:27:30 PM PST by Godebert
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To: cyborg
To all those young starlets who fear aging, free fore skin massages given right here.
44 posted on 01/18/2004 6:28:14 PM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Sub-Driver
Riiiight, these women spend 20-25 years getting roles because they were born with hot looks and nothing else. Now that the free ride is over their bitching.

Typical.
45 posted on 01/18/2004 6:28:37 PM PST by Az Joe (Hey Howard the Coward!----Bush IS MY neighbor!)
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To: dubyaismypresident
hehehehe you want to get me banned/suspended right? (oh the jokes the jokes LOL)
47 posted on 01/18/2004 6:29:12 PM PST by cyborg (feed marmite to the prisoners and they'll never go there again)
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To: Sub-Driver
"The man walks in and looks right at my tits and I saw in his face that there was no way I was going to get the part. And yet in the real world there is no way I would give this guy the time of day."

Good golly, I guess it works both ways!

"Men grow cold as girls grow old, and we all lose our charms in the end..."

It's a shame that ageism is so prominent in an industry that had ribbons for every other "ism" in the book, but it's the lay of the land. The reason folks older than 40 don't go to many movies is that few pictures written by people their age are being made.

48 posted on 01/18/2004 6:30:04 PM PST by Tangerine Time Machine (Orange you glad it's not a lemon?)
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To: Sub-Driver
Send them all a copy of Dr. Laura's book, The Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands, maybe they will change their outlook. It's not all about them.
49 posted on 01/18/2004 6:31:00 PM PST by Eva
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To: Eva
I LOVE THAT BOOK (and I'm not even married!)
50 posted on 01/18/2004 6:31:24 PM PST by cyborg (feed marmite to the prisoners and they'll never go there again)
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To: cyborg
Good, now what is marmite?
51 posted on 01/18/2004 6:31:48 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (Man rises to greatness if greatness is expected of him)
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To: Sub-Driver
Why don't these loud mouth, whining bitches create their own film company and make a film everyday with older women in them? See what the market place wants to look at.
52 posted on 01/18/2004 6:31:58 PM PST by Az Joe (Hey Howard the Coward!----Bush IS MY neighbor!)
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To: Sub-Driver
This is hilarious. Have they ever heard of the Free Market?

I'm short, pale and ugly. Whom do I sue to get a plum multi-million dollar Hollywood role?

53 posted on 01/18/2004 6:32:16 PM PST by Senator Pardek
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To: Tangerine Time Machine
The reason folks older than 40 don't go to many movies is that few pictures written by people their age are being made.

"The Lord of Metamusil"

Now thats a movie I would pay to see.

54 posted on 01/18/2004 6:32:40 PM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Sub-Driver
Liberal women are outraged again. Who'd of thunk it?
55 posted on 01/18/2004 6:33:03 PM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: FormerACLUmember
a close relative of vegemite...marmite is another wonderful tasty selection from the British food palate.
56 posted on 01/18/2004 6:33:49 PM PST by cyborg (feed marmite to the prisoners and they'll never go there again)
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To: sarasmom
Please we have enough RINOs!
Shouldnt they have saved the cash when they were making the big bucks?
Dont all those professional athletes who make the same insane incomes have to do the same, because the money tree dries up quickly when they age?

That's just what I was thinking. No one who makes millions for a year's work making a film should ever have to worry about their money drying up. They made decisions about how to invest their millions. If they're broke now, it's their own problem. Good comment too about comparison to athletes. It's kind of like old football players complaining that they can't find work when they're over 40.

If the producers could make money on films with older women, they would do it. They can do it, but it's a lot less risky for them to go for movies with hot young starlets in the leading roles. My recommendation is for these whiners to risk some of their own cash on producing these movies instead of insisting that other people put their cash at risk to please their egos.

57 posted on 01/18/2004 6:34:04 PM PST by JHL
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To: Sub-Driver
Whoopi Goldberg?

Here's a clue Whoopi: You didn't look good at 20, so I doubt your age has got much to do with your lack of acting jobs.

58 posted on 01/18/2004 6:34:10 PM PST by whd23
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To: cyborg
My husband and I have decided that Dr. Laura's book is an attempt to undo the damage that the women's movement has done to the institution of marriage.
59 posted on 01/18/2004 6:34:29 PM PST by Eva
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To: Cicero
...condemn "sexist" film moguls for failing to find roles for women over 40

Dame Judi Dench might disagree!

60 posted on 01/18/2004 6:34:43 PM PST by hunter112
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