Conservative groups break with Republican leadership

The Washington Times ^ | 1/16/2004 | Ralph Z. Hallow

[Ricardo4CP]

National leaders of six conservative organizations yesterday broke with the Republican majorities in the House and Senate, accusing them of spending like "drunken sailors," and had some strong words for President Bush as well...

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

Sorry normy, but these people are determined to commit suicide to spite their convoluted ideology.

You are wasting your good conservative breath trying to convince them otherwise.

Our best hope is that they will quit taking advantage of most of the people on this forum and start their own forum.

They are the enemy within.

[eskimo]

Personally, the energy is best spent putting Conservative members of Congress in place, to get Bush onto a more Conservative agenda.

How is that to be done if the national GOP uses all its influence to discourage conservative candidates.

[Dane]

I think a real strong president (like Reagan) can have more influence on who is elected in congress rather then the other way around

Reagan was a pragmatist. If FR was here 20 years ago, the same hysterical(i.e "true conservatives") would be calling for Reagan's head.

Reagan signed a Social Security tax increase and amnesty.

[rdb3]

To be honest, I'm not asking for him to leave.

But he apparently is miserable here, so it begs the question as to why he stays.

[putupon]

betray your own self by remaining here

See reply 34, I have found a new home.

If I hadn't already made a generous contribution to FR in the FReepathon, I'd be gone.

I sent 2 emails already to JimRob asking for my money back but he hasn't replied.

[anniegetyourgun]

Ah yes, yet another web-based roiling hive of hate-filled gossips. Folks like these only come here to throw chum in the water to encite another feeding frenzy. Somehow it provides some kind of "fix" for their lust for negativism and doom.

[BigSkyFreeper]

The Constitution party has shown not to be a viable alternative but to be party crashers.

If someone commandeered your front yard, would you allow them to take it over or would you go outside on the step and tell them to take a hike?

[rdb3]

Reagan signed a Social Security tax increase and amnesty.

True, and he also failed to abolish the Department of Education like he said he would.

[normy]

What I do not understand is there are a lot of conservitive Republicans in congress. It makes no sense to jump party when the Republicans are conservitive.

Lets think of how far we have come in the past ten years. We are the dominant party and will be for years to come. If you have a beef change whats there, not change parties. America is on the right track and if they do not think Bush is conservitive they must be nuts.

[janetgreen]

If principled conservatives gather in some other party, true conservatives should support that party.

Agree. The "two party system" isn't working anymore. The Republican party has melded into the Democrat party.

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

Looks like you'll have to exercise your constitutional right to due process. So take him to court.

But in the meantime, you are free to leave.

Would you please? Be the man of your word that you fancy yourself to be. Our forum would be much the better place because of it.

[eskimo]

Our best hope is that they will quit taking advantage of most of the people on this forum and start their own forum.

This is a conservative gathering place, not a tool of some GOP groupie mutual admiration society.

[Ricardo4CP]

X,

Thanks for the constructive criticism and the spirit in which it was offered.

The Constitution Party National Committee decided to not focus their energy on the 2004 presidential race. Rather, we've been working on local races since 2000. I can say for certain we've won some local partisan races since then -- all part of the process to build the local party organizations. Meanwhile, the Bush reality distortion field holds its traction on most good conservative leaders who fear being cut off from access more than repudiating the principles they once believe.

Perhaps the Constitution Party isn't growing in your area because your talents are needed. How bad will it get in the GOP until *you* do something?

If not now, when?


-Ricardo

[Dane]

This is a conservative gathering place, not a tool of some GOP groupie mutual admiration society

Conservatives don't help liberal democrats win.

[Dane]

I can say for certain we've won some local partisan races since then -

Dog catcher doesn't count.

[BigSkyFreeper]

If this was a Conservative gathering place, why are you espousing others to join up with some irrelevant third party?

Doing so would fragment Conservatives into a half dozen irrelevant third parties, allowing Democrats to hijack the Republican party, which has stood for Conservative values for decades.

[EGPWS]

Everything's a no-no at FR except licking Commissar Bush's boots.

Now that has got to be frustrating.

So why are you still here? Glutton for punishment are ya'?

[Columbine]

I can say for certain we've won some local partisan races since then

Names, offices and locations?

[rdb3]

No, see normy, you just don't get it. These folks want what they want, when they want it, and to hades with all else.

Take it from me, an Independent Rightist (who happens to be quite optimistic, BTW). The votes I cast for the GOP are cast because the probability of getting what I want enacted is much closer to 1 than if I stayed home, voted for a RAT (shudder), or any other party.

I know I can't get all that I want. But a sandwich without mayo is better than no sandwich at all.

[Ricardo4CP]

Thanks for the tip, I'll pass this on to a few friends. :)


-Ricardo