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Conservative groups break with Republican leadership
The Washington Times ^ | 1/16/2004 | Ralph Z. Hallow

Posted on 01/17/2004 2:58:56 PM PST by Ricardo4CP

National leaders of six conservative organizations yesterday broke with the Republican majorities in the House and Senate, accusing them of spending like "drunken sailors," and had some strong words for President Bush as well...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: amnestyforillegals; armey; beckner; bush; bush43; constitution; cpac; healthcare; hispander; panderer; pandering; party; pork; prescriptiondrug; socializedmedicine; spending; weyrich
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To: Ricardo4CP
How many members do you have in the CP in GE?
21 posted on 01/17/2004 3:09:56 PM PST by deport (You BECOME 21, TURN 30, PUSH 40, REACH 50, MAKE 60, HIT 70 and then it becomes day by day)
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To: jimkress
I'm afraid your response is closer to the truth than many would want to admit.
22 posted on 01/17/2004 3:10:11 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace (I'm from the government and I'm here to help.)
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To: Ricardo4CP
It was only a matter of time.

After three years of trying to out-do the Clinton administration with regard to using the federal treasury to solidify their control in Washington, conservative leaders who still have a conscience are beginning to revolt. The Washington Times reports that "national leaders of six conservative organizations yesterday broke with the Republican majorities in the House and Senate, accusing them of spending like 'drunken sailors,' and had some strong words for President Bush as well." This is not some wild liberal-inspired tirade but rather the frustration of conservative leaders who see no end to the RNC's actions. Read the story here:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/functions/print.php?StoryID=20040115-112447-9758r

Compare the Bush administration's fiscal policy as noted in the attached article with that of the Constitution Party:

The only legitimate purpose of civil government is to safeguard the God-given rights of its citizens; namely, life, liberty, and property. Only those duties, functions, and programs specifically assigned to the federal government by the Constitution should be funded. We call upon Congress and the President to stop all federal expenditures which are not specifically authorized by the U. S. Constitution, and to restore to the states those powers, programs, and sources of revenue that the federal government has usurped.

We call upon the President to use his Constitutional veto power to stop irresponsible and unconstitutional appropriations, and use his Constitutional authority to refuse to spend any money appropriated by Congress for unconstitutional programs or in excess of Constitutionally imposed tax revenue.

We call for the systematic reduction of the federal debt through, but not limited to, the elimination of further borrowing and the elimination of unconstitutional programs and agencies.

We reject the misleading use of the terms surplus and balanced budget as long as public debt remains. We oppose dishonest accounting practices such as "off-budget items" used to hide unconstitutional spending practices...

(From Constitution Party National Platform: Cost of Big Government -- http://www.constitutionparty.com/ustp-99p1.html#Costofgov)

In light of the past three years performance of the Republican controlled federal legislature and the Bush administration, those that call themselves "fiscal conservatives" who continue to support President Bush and the GOP need to be asked whose fiscal policies are they trying to conserve? On what basis do they excuse such blatant socialist policies such as the recent $400 billion prescription drug benefit passed by a Republican controlled Congress and signed by Mr. Bush?

At this point we can either continue to repeat the empty Republican promises about fiscal restraint or roll up our sleeves and get to work to fix the problem by joining the Constitution Party and elect candidates who are serious about fighting for fiscal sanity.

If not now, when?

23 posted on 01/17/2004 3:10:25 PM PST by Ricardo4CP
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To: jgrubbs
He doesn't ignore them, they're persona non grata in my opinion. Had there been ANY Conservatives in Congress, they wouldn't have let the Democrats run roughshod over Bush's judicial nominees, basically cowering in the corner every time the radically liberal Schmuck Schumer put up that chart of his that simply said "169 to 4".
24 posted on 01/17/2004 3:11:32 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: deport
GE? = GA?
25 posted on 01/17/2004 3:11:34 PM PST by deport (You BECOME 21, TURN 30, PUSH 40, REACH 50, MAKE 60, HIT 70 and then it becomes day by day)
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To: Ricardo4CP
If not now, when?

How about after you people do some hard work, raise some money, establish yourself with elected candidates in all 50 states?

And how about after you set up your own forums and quit sponging off other people.

26 posted on 01/17/2004 3:12:34 PM PST by Columbine
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To: putupon
Everything's a no-no at FR except licking Commisar Bush's boots.

Oh? Then why are you still here if it is so bad? You make it sound intolerable, yet you betray your own self by remaining here.

Interesting.


27 posted on 01/17/2004 3:12:34 PM PST by rdb3 (If Jesse Jack$on and I meet, face to face, it's gonna be a misunderstanding...)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Personally, the energy is best spent putting Conservative members of Congress in place, to get Bush onto a more Conservative agenda

Exactly! That is what these guys were voted in for. Does anyone out there think during Bush's second term(if it happens) he will not right the Supreme Court when given the opportunity? Does anyone think he will not install conservitive judges wherever he can?

I think everyone knows he will be more conservitive in the next four years and in the mean time the Republicans will gain a serious hold on both houses of Congress basically stopping liberal Presidents for years to come. Not only that but from the pols I have seen America is embracing its conservitive roots.

Give Bush a second term and we will win the next quarter century. Not only that but because conservitive principles work it will be hard for people to deny they do.

28 posted on 01/17/2004 3:13:39 PM PST by normy (As for my people, children are their oppressors and women rule over them. Isaiah 3:12)
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To: putupon
Well don't fuss and get to licking if you want to hang around.
29 posted on 01/17/2004 3:14:13 PM PST by deport (You BECOME 21, TURN 30, PUSH 40, REACH 50, MAKE 60, HIT 70 and then it becomes day by day)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Ping!
30 posted on 01/17/2004 3:15:17 PM PST by NRA2BFree (PMS 24-7 own a gun. Specialize in RAT extermination. 1-800-KILLEM4U :-))
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To: B Knotts
I don't think the Constitution Party stands much of a chance but it's about time some of these groups did something like this to get the GOP's attention.

The GOP has been commandeered by despicable political opportunists who have no problem promoting liberal ideals as long as they can be in charge of the sand box. If principled conservatives gather in some other party, true conservatives should support that party.

31 posted on 01/17/2004 3:15:27 PM PST by eskimo
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To: BigSkyFreeper
...Then when the question was raised that there would be 2 more coming down the pipe, Schumer said "We'd filibuster those too", and Republican's said "OK, fine", without so much as a fight or a damned argument, as if to give Democrats what they wanted.
32 posted on 01/17/2004 3:16:44 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: Ricardo4CP
Well, I give you credit for saying "conservative" group wants to break from "Republican" leadership. At least you realize our current leadership is not conservative. And people can jump on you for not having a viable candidate, but at least you are doing something.
33 posted on 01/17/2004 3:17:15 PM PST by PersonalLiberties (Between Life and the Pursuit of Happiness you Need Liberty www.personalliberties.com)
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To: jimkress
All this hysteria about our freedoms. In case you haven't noticed, we have boundless freedom.
34 posted on 01/17/2004 3:18:06 PM PST by tkathy (The islamofascists and the democrats are trying to destroy this country)
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To: anniegetyourgun
Which is why you are able to post such ugly stuff!

Not really, I and some FRiends got exiled the other day because we had a PING list with a mildly sarcastic theme calling attention Party Line Propoganda articles about Amnesty for Illegals.

It was a blessing in disguise though, I found out there is life outside FR and where all the MIA FReepers have gone.

35 posted on 01/17/2004 3:18:29 PM PST by putupon (Amnesty for Illegals, Socialized Medicine, CFR are wonderful! Thank you George Bush!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Personally, the energy is best spent putting Conservative members of Congress in place, to get Bush onto a more Conservative agenda.

I see it opposite but generally agree.  A Constitution Party has no real chance anytime soon to win a general election.  But they sure as heck could start smacking around some wimpy Republicans and all Dems to straighten them out.  I think a real strong president (like Reagan) can have more influence on who is elected in congress rather then the other way around.
36 posted on 01/17/2004 3:19:22 PM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: putupon
It was a blessing in disguise though, I found out there is life outside FR and where all the MIA FReepers have gone

Yeah to the TLB cyber rubber room.

37 posted on 01/17/2004 3:20:20 PM PST by Dane
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To: putupon
It was a blessing in disguise though, I found out there is life outside FR and where all the MIA FReepers have gone.

Then why don't you tear your tail and get with those MIA FReepers so you will be happy. You aren't happy here, so why stay?


38 posted on 01/17/2004 3:20:30 PM PST by rdb3 (If Jesse Jack$on and I meet, face to face, it's gonna be a misunderstanding...)
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To: rdb3; putupon
Then why don't you tear your tail and get with those MIA FReepers so you will be happy. You aren't happy here, so why stay?


Don't ask him to leave just yet..... He's got some licking to do..... or so he said.



39 posted on 01/17/2004 3:21:45 PM PST by deport (You BECOME 21, TURN 30, PUSH 40, REACH 50, MAKE 60, HIT 70 and then it becomes day by day)
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To: Ricardo4CP
I got a call last night asking for money for GWB. I told the caller "no way" and listed my displeasure with his actions lately. I asked him to tell his supervisor the convey my remarks to the campaign. He gave me a phone number to call which I just did. Guess what...The voice mail box for comments was too full to accept my call. Try this number and choose from 6 choices.

1 800 531 6789
40 posted on 01/17/2004 3:22:18 PM PST by tubebender (Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see...)
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