Posted on 01/15/2004 5:44:50 PM PST by Happy2BMe
Christians Fight California's Muslim Indoctrination of Schoolchildren WASHINGTON – NewsMax.com has learned that a public interest law firm plans to file an appeal “probably within the next 20 days” to overturn a federal judge’s decision upholding as constitutional the Islamic indoctrination of children in California's government schools.
Such schoolroom activities as praying to Allah and simulating Islamic worship are not “devotional activities,” District Judge Phyllis Hamilton decreed in a highly publicized lawsuit brought by Christian pupils and parents at Excelsior Elementary School in Byron, Calif. The Thomas Moore Law Center in Ann Arbor, Mich., which represents Christians on issues related to “religion, family values, and the sanctity of life,” intends to file its brief with the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. Given that this court (dubbed the “9th Circus” by Rush Limbaugh) is notoriously left-wing and is by far the most overturned in the nation, the case could very well end up before the U.S. Supreme Court.
“I would like to think we will stop it before that,” said Finn Laursen, executive director of Christian Educators Association International (CEAI). His organization of public and private school teachers would likely enter the case as “a friend of the court” in support of the Thomas Moore Center.
Schools throughout the nation are urged to abide by the guidelines for religion in the classroom handed down by American Civil Liberties Union. That organization has caused school officials to be gun-shy for fear of being dragged into court if anything not hostile to Christianity appears in their classrooms. Many parents in California believe the Islam indoctrination case now in the courts resulted from the schools bending over backward to please ACLU.
ACLU Snickering but Otherwise Silent
NewsMax.com has requested and is still waiting for a comment from ACLU. Doesn’t the heavily pro-Islam curriculum at the center of the case violate the organization’s insistence on what it always refers to as “separation of church and state”? An ACLU spokesman chuckled in apparent disbelief when NewsMax recited the curriculum involved, which also includes staging mock Islamic "holy" wars.
In his interview with NewsMax.com, Laursen, a former public school superintendent in Ohio, recalled that ACLU “did not even want the subject [Christianity] to be brought up that might lead someone to believe that there was some reality to the God of the Bible.”
Thomas Moore Law Center spokesman Brian Burch told NewsMax that the group’s lawyers, in their research, discovered schools are definitely being pressured to insert Islamic views into their curricula.
Concern over the case is enhanced by the arrest last fall of Abdurahman Alamoudi, founder and former executive director of American Muslim Council. AMC is listed as one of the organizations that contributed to ACLU's guideline “Religion in the Public Schools: A Joint Statement of Current Law.” ACLU offices in Washington confirmed to NewsMax that Alamoudi, a former appointee of Bill Clinton and adviser to Hillary Clinton, personally represented AMC in that effort. (Alamoudi says he is innocent of the terrorism-related charges, for which he is in jail without bail.)
Laursen opined to NewsMax that “if there were equal justice coming from that organization [ACLU], they themselves” would be suing on behalf of the outraged parents. Wes Vernon, NewsMax.com
See part one of series: Jailed Clintonista Terror Suspect Helped ACLU Draft Schools' Anti-Christian Rules
Thursday, Jan. 15, 2004
There can be. They don't call Him "Savior" for nothing.
:)
"Ask the Imam"If it is haraam to commit suicide bombings?
How can suicide bombings be accepted, knowing that palestinians can use other methods to hurting the enemies without killing themselves?
Answer 6284 2002-07-29
Kindly refer below our standard reply to similar queries.
and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best
Mufti Ebrahim Desai
FATWA DEPT.Q: What is your opinion on the suicide bombers in Palestine?
A: If a community is oppressed and denied its basic human rights, it is permissible for them to fight against the oppressors and free themselves from such oppression. It is permissible for them to engage in Jihaad - risking their lives in the hope of saving themselves from oppression. The people of Palestine are the most oppressed people and live in constant fear by the rule of the Jewish oppressors. Their extreme frustration and hardships have led them to behave likewise - to resort to suicide bombings. Assuming the suicide bombing is evil but this evil is opposed by a greater evil for which there is no adequate substitute, therefore, their act will also be justified as lesser of the two evils in terms of the Shari'ah.
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recently I've been talkin' to ‘jihadis’, who say if Islam brings me peace, I have chosen the wrong religion, they say blood of kafir is halal, it is permissible to kill any nonmuslim
Please could you help me, I am on the verge of losing my iman. I am a recent convert to islam, I converted to islam because of the peace, as well as being convinced its the truth. Very recently I have been talking to come ‘jihadis’, who say if Islam brings me peace, I have chosen the wrong religion, they tell me the blood of every kafir [non-muslim] is halal, and that it is permissible to kill any non muslim whether they are oppressing you or not. For example, they say it would be permissible to go to somewhere like Bolivia, and kill all the local inhabitants for the sin of not being non-muslim. I have also been told that rape during jihad is permissible. Please save my imaan. They also tell me if I feel sorry for any kafir, I am a munafiq, and I am one of them. Please save my imaan. I work with several Americans, how should my relationship be with them? According to these guys, I should kill them, just for the sin of holding an American passport. Look forward to hearing from you shortly. Jazakallah khair.
Answer 6184 2002-07-18
Kindly refer below our standard reply to a similar query.
and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best
Mufti Ebrahim Desai
FATWA DEPT.The statement, 'promoted killing of non-Muslims' is vague and sweeping and is very much open to misinterpretation. Yes, Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) promoted the killing of these non-Muslims who are actively engaged in destroying Islam and the Muslims. This is the command of Allah Ta'ala Himself in the Qur'aan. This type of killing is not simply permissible, but commendable and worthy of reward. This does not mean that Islam teaches to kill all non-Muslims.
If, for example, a Muslim intentionally kills a non-Muslim citizen of the Islamic state, then in retribution the Muslim's life will be taken. This indicates that even the life of a non-Muslim is sanctified, if he does not oppose Islam and the Muslims.
and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best
Moulana Imraan Vawda
FATWA DEPT.CHECKED AND APPROVED CORRECT: Mufti Ebrahim Desai
What about simulating voodoo or santarey worship (have kids do ritualistic chicken kill)?
What about a simulated Christian-missionary cooking (onions, potatos, carrots, garlic etc.) for Kwanzaa or something like that? They could get some old Tarzan movies or a copy of "Jewel of the Nile" for instruction...
What about some sort of an Aztec ritual killing and sacraficial barbeque? They could tie up one of the kids, and then pretend to cut his heart out and then pour barbeque sauce on him and pretend to eat him....
We've all hear the liberal, socialist lies of "SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE."
Now, with Christian prayer outlawed in schools nationwide, and the onslaught of Islam being bought lock stock and barrel with the outright teaching of it being done in broad daylight, with the sanction and approval of liberal judges what we are now seeing is . .
Holy Taliban!
That's a mighty big IF ain't it mister!?
Tell that to the hundreds of millions of Chrsitans and Jews in the Uniteds States, Israel, and the rest of the world who do oppose Islam and the Muslims.
Where does that leave them on the target scope of Islam.
(We think we may have an answer to this one . .)
The ACLU and the 9th Circus Court are both jokes.This kind of cr** just blows me away ... speechless !
So if the 9th Circus thinks that Christian prayer in school should be banned but 'Similating' Islam is okay ...WASHINGTON – NewsMax.com has learned that a public interest law firm plans to file an appeal “probably within the next 20 days” to overturn a federal judge’s decision upholding as constitutional the Islamic indoctrination of children in California's government schools.
Such schoolroom activities as praying to Allah and simulating Islamic worship are not “devotional activities,” District Judge Phyllis Hamilton decreed in a highly publicized lawsuit brought by Christian pupils and parents at Excelsior Elementary School in Byron, Calif.
The Thomas Moore Law Center in Ann Arbor, Mich., which represents Christians on issues related to “religion, family values, and the sanctity of life,” intends to file its brief with the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. Given that this court (dubbed the “9th Circus” by Rush Limbaugh) is notoriously left-wing and is by far the most overturned in the nation, the case could very well end up before the U.S. Supreme Court.
It would be interesting to see what they did if Christians challenged them on their own logic and say we are 'similating' prayer. They'd knock it down, don't ya know ?? ...
Personally, I'll leave the worshiping of the moon god to the ignorant masses....and I do mean ignorant.
Stranger things have happened.
You bet. What constitutes submission to Mohammedanism for non-Mohammedans is acceptance of dhimminitude. That is, non-Mohammedans have to pay a special tax to the government, they cannot oppose Mohammedanism in any way, and they are not allowed to practice their religion publicly in any way. Actually, this applies to Jews and Christians. It's pretty much open season on everyone else.
Yikes ! Yep ...
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Thank you.
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