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AN AMERICAN DECLARATION FReepers, what does being an American mean to you?
1/14/04

Posted on 01/14/2004 11:44:54 AM PST by Liz

FReepers, now is the time to come to the aid of your country.

America means freedoms ....those guaranteed by our Bill of Rights, and our Constitution......and the rule of law.

But being an American means something more, something significant to each and every one of us.

At this time in American history when there are serious challenges facing our Nation, let us gather together here on this forum, and with one voice, as one people united, outline the things most important to us about being an American.

Post below the freedoms unique to our country, the freedoms and liberties under constant assault, that you feel we are in danger of losing.

Post a list of the things you think are most sacred to America and to Americans that must be preserved.


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To: Liz
I was born here 73 years ago, I've loved hard, partied hard, worked hard, lived hard and have been in a full-tilt-boogie-dance with life.

If I had it all to do over again, I would do it in exactly the same way ~ I wouldn't change a thing.

The good USofA is still the good old USofA ~ no place like it on this old planet ~ I wouldn't be anywhere else in the world!

Be Well ~ Be Armed ~ Be Safe ~ Molon Labe!
21 posted on 01/14/2004 12:36:11 PM PST by blackie
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To: Protagoras
I am the eternal optomist, I don't think the "The Dream" has died. I believe in the that our great Constitution will survive and be applied as intended by our Founding Fathers. The reason I believe this,is because of my association with the good people of this forum, and the fact that I am teaching my children what it means, and what the responsibilities are to be an American. We are the "Silent Majority" no longer, and we have right on our side. I still believe that anyone who has the heart can and will be succesfull in our country. To use an old football cliche: Ya gotta want it!! Semper Fi
22 posted on 01/14/2004 12:37:25 PM PST by sean327 (9-1-1: Government Sponsored Dial-A-Prayer.)
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To: fatso
Freedom of religion, one of our greatest freedoms, is under assault.

The constant assault on religious displays goes against the constitutional separation of church and state mandate.

The Constitution does not require complete separation of church and state.

The Establishment Clause of the First Amendment, even under contemporary interpretations requires the state to be neutral in its relations with religious believers and nonbelievers; it does not require the state to be their adversary.

State power is no more to be used to handicap religions than it is to favor them.

The duty of supporting religion, and especially the Christian religion, is very different from the right to force the conscience of other men, or to punish them for worshipping God in the manner which, they believe, their accountability to Him requires.....as religious haters would have us believe.

If some find the Ten Commandments, a creche, a crucifix "offensive, " then let them simply look away.

That's what the rest of us are told when we complain about the violence, pornography and the rest of Hollywarped's output displayed daily on TV, radio, movies, etc.

We are told to look away from porn and turn it off.

Fine, it works both ways. Let religious haters look away from religious symbols and expressions.

23 posted on 01/14/2004 12:38:00 PM PST by Liz
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To: Dead Corpse
......Laws that respect individual Rights......everyone held to the same standard ....in a Constitutional Republic......

About sums it up.

24 posted on 01/14/2004 12:41:03 PM PST by Liz
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To: blackie
The good USofA is still the good old USofA ~ no place like it on this old planet

So you make the case that there has been no decline in the quality of life and freedom and that we are not getting closer to all the rest of the miserable countries? Grading on the curve doesn't work in every instance. I desire things I used to have, things that ought to be and things that can be. Not just that I'm in better shape than some poor wretch elsewhere.

25 posted on 01/14/2004 12:44:24 PM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: Liz
Being an American means that the idea I'm working on (a consumer item meant to improve the quality of life for elderly people with extremely limited mobility) can blossom into a business that enriches me, employs fellow Americans, and sucks Pacific Rim cash back into American banks.

But in the course of researching the guaranteed staggering growth of my target market over the next 10 years, being American also means having leaders completely unwilling to address the financial crisis of the upcoming wave of retiring baby boomers. Both sides of the aisle talk about it occasionally, but neither has done nor plans to do anything remotely substantive.

Being an American means that Jerry, the guy that used to sell me my loaves of fresh-baked bread and apple pies, now changes tires and batteries. Both of us get our bread and pies from Walmart now, at about half the price he used to charge. That'd just be the breaks of business, I guess, but they're also about half the quality.

So he's stuck changing tires, and I was stuck eating crappy bread until I bought a bread machine...Made In China. Walmart didn't have one that was made over here. Well, at least I get to eat a variety of fresh breads again.

Not to be a snob, or anything, because this fine country was first settled by people who are now known as Native Americans, then the Chinese, then the Vikings, then the Spanish, and then the Dutch, but I'm a direct descendant of Cecily Reynolds, of Jamestown. When I think about what being an American means to me, I think about how long my people have been here.

Most of all, though, being an American means being free to say TO HELL WITH CHENEY! BLAKE ASHBY FOR PRESIDENT IN 2008!

26 posted on 01/14/2004 12:49:13 PM PST by BlakeAshby2008
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To: Protagoras
I got that you're unhappy ~ you sound like a victim ~ I'm not sharing your misery with you ~ sorry.
27 posted on 01/14/2004 12:55:53 PM PST by blackie
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To: sean327
The reason I believe this,is because of my association with the good people of this forum, and the fact that I am teaching my children what it means, and what the responsibilities are to be an American.

That alone won't do it. I hope you are right, I suspect otherwise.

28 posted on 01/14/2004 12:58:29 PM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: Liz
now is the time to come to the aid of your country.....

A bit late for that if you mean you're worried about losing liberty in the fashion the founders meant along with government of limited powers expressly enumerated in a constitution formed by free and sovereign states. The original Republic died with Lincoln's war and the central power grab and corporate welfare looting of the nation has been on a fast track ever since. The history of the nation in the last 150 years is the growth of government. Government is force. When government grows freedom is lost. The last chance we had to stop the "progress" was in the 1930's. There is no going back now. The great evil of socialism is that it can not be undone, not without a total financial collapse first that is.

BTW those who believe in socialism and big government no longer believe in the nation state. As you see we are in the process of erasing our borders. First with Mexico, then Canada, then the new North American Union will merge with the rest of the hemisphere into one giant bloc. It will take time and be a bit messy but that is what the future is. China will dominate the east. The EU will include North Africa and sub sahara Africa will always be a mess that is exploited for its mineral wealth.

29 posted on 01/14/2004 12:58:32 PM PST by u-89
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To: blackie
I'm not a victim, and I don't seek you to be miserable.

I'm not miserable, I'm a realist.

I'm sure you're happy, I'm glad for you. That doesn't change what is.

30 posted on 01/14/2004 1:00:29 PM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: Liz
read later
31 posted on 01/14/2004 1:05:06 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: Protagoras
Everyone decides their own reality.

We create "what is" in our speaking ~ we make it up.

Carry your burden well. :)
32 posted on 01/14/2004 1:10:53 PM PST by blackie
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To: JohnGalt
OK fine. America means hanging out smoking a bowl and jamming on my cherry red Telecaster.
33 posted on 01/14/2004 1:11:09 PM PST by Huck (Was that offensive? I hope that wasn't offensive.)
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To: Huck
Don't get stoned, get kippered! Smoke fish for the ultimate high!
34 posted on 01/14/2004 1:17:22 PM PST by BlakeAshby2008
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To: blackie
No problem carrying my own burden. But I'm a tad tired of carrying a lot of other people's burdens.

I'm a happy person, which doesn't mean I'm happy about everything. Particularly the direction of the country and our society.

35 posted on 01/14/2004 1:20:40 PM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: Huck
Now, you're talking.

We'll beat the bastards yet, just not through pre-emption.
36 posted on 01/14/2004 1:23:15 PM PST by JohnGalt (Attention Pseudocons: Marsrepublic.com is still available)
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To: Protagoras
Got it. :)
37 posted on 01/14/2004 1:24:31 PM PST by blackie
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To: BlakeAshby2008
How about I do both? Happy compromise? Kippered snacks and kind buds? "Sounds like Sunday morning comin' down."

" And there's nothin short a dyin,
That's half as lonesome as the sound,
As a can of kipper snacks being opened,
And a lungful of sticky kind buds goin' down."

38 posted on 01/14/2004 1:28:39 PM PST by Huck (Was that offensive? I hope that wasn't offensive.)
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To: Protagoras
The country is going to hell in a handbasket, but you have to fight back even if you know you'll lose. No jobs in your area? Start a business! Nobody will lend you money? Start a bank! No healthcare? Perform self-surgery!

I'm being facetious because a fair appraisal of the challenges we face leaves me depressed, but if we're going to scratch our way back to prosperity we have to do it ourselves, despite all the governmental mismanagement.

39 posted on 01/14/2004 1:38:54 PM PST by BlakeAshby2008
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To: BlakeAshby2008
That's what being an American means to me...taking for granted that whoever is in charge is going to completely screw things up, but gritting my teeth and setting out to do it my own damned self.
40 posted on 01/14/2004 1:55:07 PM PST by BlakeAshby2008
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