Posted on 01/13/2004 1:38:02 PM PST by quidnunc
You hear it in the coffee shops all over the "red areas" of the map. Everyone knows that is where the real politics is discussed in America. Conservatives are asking themselves, "What was the President thinking?" They might be talking about No Child Left Behind, or steel tariffs or the signing of many less than conservative bills.
In the coffee shops in the "blue areas," liberals don't sit around much. They are too angry and busy to stop for a while but many are thinking that President Bush is the most conservative president in years, since "oh, my God, Reagan," and he must be stopped.
Both of these assessments cannot be true and after spending years looking at politics, I took my first serious stand on a candidate in 1968 at the tender age of 9, if both sides are mad at you, you are probably on the right track. So why should conservatives and moderates support the President, now on issues and later this year at the ballot box?
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Based on the history of this President, we better not count him out till we see how things unfold. He is what conservatives asked for in a President. He cut taxes, got our economy going again and lives and breathes the safety of this country and the people in it. When it is all said and done, George W. Bush does what he believes is right for the American people and he is willing to stand on his record in November.
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This high stakes game of chess is far from over. Check.
Keep on posting Ray. You helped Rendell in PA and now you want to help one of the nine dwarves.
You are wandering around in the wilderness with your above italicized sentiments, IMO.
When you reach your destination called "perfect political world" how about sending me a post card. I have a notion that I will be waiting by the mailbox for a long time.
I(Badray) will not support Fisher. He is the epitome of the cheesey, fake smiling politician who will pat you on the back only to gain a better vantage point to stab you in the back or reach into your wallet.
Wgatever, MAP, that is your right to have an opinion, misgudied in your eternal pessimism and bitterness, IMO, but your right to have.
Don't be stupid. It's enough not to help Bush, don't waste your time helping satan's spawn.
I guess you have been getting your news from those "magazines" at the checkout in the grocery store. Pot has not been legalized in Canada any more than it has in California. Simple possession is a misdemeanor that carries a fine. Is that your big worry in life? That some Canadians are going to move down here and smoke some pot?
Now, I know you are hung up on the fact that I hail from Canada. But let's get one thing straight: I am an American. I think America is the greatest country on the face of the earth. That does not mean that it is living up to it's potential, and I get really, really pissed off at politicians who want to make the US more like Canada - kinda the way your buddy Whore-Hay is. Big Kennedy style DOE, drug give-aways for greedy-geezers, treating illegal aliens better than the legal ones, deficit spending, mandates on states, etc. etc. This is the kind of crap that will turn the US into Canada, and you can trust me on this one; you do not want to go there.
I like what one poster had on this thread: The RP is treating "conservatives" like the Dems treat African-Americans. About the only Rep I would vote for right now is Ron Paul (from Texas, no doubt), and the RP treats him like he has leprosy.
Perhaps if the RP looses to the dems by the margin that went to the right-wing 3rd parties, they won't take you for granted.
I guess that all depends on whose definition of "conservative" you want to use.
If you mean the definition of conservative which embraces protectionism, isolationism, and non-interventionism as a political ideology, then they are not...in fact, they have never truly been the base because all those are political ideologies which have never been embraced by the U.S. people at any level.
If you mean the "conservatives" who support exclusion rather than inclusion, who see dialog with certain segments of the voters as "pandering", and who raise ideology over people, they haven't been any part of "the base" since Reagan raised the standard, and placed people ahead of ideology.
And lastly, if you define "conservatives" as they who would welcome electoral victories by Democrats in the name of advancing "conservative" principles, then I say to you that they are truly NOT the base of the Party.
The base of anything must, by definition, be that which supports and stabilizes it, the "conservatives" around these parts, or at least those who label themselves "true conservatives" have left the Party before, and threaten to leave it again...they cannot possibly be the base.
Like it or not, they are the minority within the majority membership, and geometrically speaking, if you see the ideological make up of the GOP as a triangle, these "conservatives" are the point, and the narrowest point of a triangle can't be its base.
When I read what he wrote last night, I kind of had a kneejerk reaction, but then I realized he meant "conservative" in the best kind of way -- the inclusive kind of way, where he accepts us ALL into that "tent," if you will.
I really don't think EV meant to use the term "conservative" in the way its thrown around on this forum.
Vote Dubya!
Because getting a $300 Federal tax refund sure makes up for knowing your taxes are set to explode once granny's free pills bill comes due!
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