Conservatives Should Support the President Now and in November Because…

Jewish World Review, January ^ | January 13, 2004 | Martha Zoller

[quidnunc]

…They Asked for His Kind of Leadership

You hear it in the coffee shops all over the "red areas" of the map. Everyone knows that is where the real politics is discussed in America. Conservatives are asking themselves, "What was the President thinking?" They might be talking about No Child Left Behind, or steel tariffs or the signing of many less than conservative bills.

In the coffee shops in the "blue areas," liberals don't sit around much. They are too angry and busy to stop for a while but many are thinking that President Bush is the most conservative president in years, since "oh, my God, Reagan," and he must be stopped.

Both of these assessments cannot be true and after spending years looking at politics, I took my first serious stand on a candidate in 1968 at the tender age of 9, if both sides are mad at you, you are probably on the right track. So why should conservatives and moderates support the President, now on issues and later this year at the ballot box?

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Based on the history of this President, we better not count him out till we see how things unfold. He is what conservatives asked for in a President. He cut taxes, got our economy going again and lives and breathes the safety of this country and the people in it. When it is all said and done, George W. Bush does what he believes is right for the American people and he is willing to stand on his record in November.

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[Soylent Democrats]

I've enjoyed your salient observations. Arguing issues with most Libertarians is fruitless. It's like debating particle physics with a 4 year-old. The LP's understanding of the legislative process is very naive and shortsighted, at best. If a few LP candidates were ever capable of being elected to either the U.S. House or Senate, they would soon realize legislation is not made by edict, and would further learn about legislative counsel, statutory committee markups with Democrats (before bills are reported), enacting clauses/provisions within legislation, as well as myriad Senate rules. Then perhaps the LP would quickly realize the Republicans are not to be faulted for every over-funded, budget buster which passes. Once they realize they have to work with and yes, against Democrats, they will finally know it's easier said than done.

[Texasforever]

Thank you.

[Nanodik]

And your Libertarian Party would?

Let's compare the LP to the Republicrats:
Taxes: LP wants to end direct taxation. RP wants to be able to screw around with it to get votes.
Borders: LP wants open borders. RP says they want mostly open borders and does nothing to enforce laws already on books.
Guns: LP supports individual rights to bear arms including select-fire weapons. RP wants to renew ugly gun ban.
Welfare: LP would end any type of wealth transfer. RP wants to use give-aways to get more votes (ie. Senior Drug Plan).
Drugs: LP wants you to decide what you should put into your body. RP thinks they know best and will oppose even medical pot for terminal cancer patients.

Right now the RP is giving "conservatives" about 2% of what they actually want in govt. The LP would give "conservatives" about 98% of what they want in govt, but of course the RP will use the drug boogey-man to scare the witless Bushbots into thinking that the LP is just a bunch of dope smoking hippies left over from the 60's.

[fly_so_free]

"The 8 years of Clinton has brought this country to what it is now. Who would have thought that we could be punished just for our thoughts. Who would have thought that the same crime committed to two different people would have two different consequences depending on your race, religion, or sexual behavior? Who would have thought that the mere presence of a cross nativity scene or Merry Christmas would bring the lawyers out to sue, sue sue. Who would have thought that a simple game of cops and robbers would have a child suspended for simply using their hands as a pretend gun. Who would have thought that a little boy innocent kiss to the most beautiful in the class would result in suspension for a pre-adult male rapist. Who would have thought that the press's only job is to spin, spin, spin and not to report the truth? Who would have thought the Boy Scouts would be fighting for their lives simply because they believe in their oath? Who would have thought some Americans after experiencing one of the worst events since Pearl Harbor would still stand behind their sworn ennemies? I wonder what we woulda thought after having another 8 years of a Democrat as President?"

Thank you for the reminder of what the 8 years of a democrat as president was like (shuuudderrr)Yikes!! You posted some things I had forgotten about. I think everyone should read what you wrote-especially those who don't want to support President Bush.

It really is bizarre how bad things have gotten. I think the world has gone crazy. But we still have a slight chance to turn it around.

Our country is at war at home as well as in Iraq. The war here is between two completely opposite ideologies. The stakes are high, and we can't afford to lose site of the consequences of giving up ground to the other side.

In war, you need allies to win, and you have to stick together. How much did the Americans , English, Russians, Australia, New Zealand, Finland and Canada have in common, or agree about politically during WWII? (sorry if I left a country out). Not much, but, they understood that they had to stick together in order to defeat the evil Hitler. I think it's the same thing here. We have to stick together to defeat the democrats. People have to think about the consequences of their actions. Such as "what is the consequence of not supporting our candidate?" It's everything you said in your post , and worse. I mean, Bush might mess everything up anyway, and things could get really bad , that's true, it's a possibility. But If a democRAT is elected, there is NO QUESTION, that things will get bad-very,very bad.

Thanks for your great post.

[EternalVigilance]

Conservatives are still the base of the GOP.

I hope the left-wing of the Party doesn't push too far.

The country doesn't need the chaos that will result.

[section9]

Actually, Joe, that was in 1976.

Part of the problem with conservatives is that they don't know how to adjust the playbook to hold on to power. The Lefties do. Stupid conservatives who don't care about, say, Supreme Court appointments go out and become Brigadiers or vote Constitution Party, Libertarian, or, when they are real asshats, write in Alan Keyes.

I'm voting Bush in 2004. We have a two party system in this country. We are in the middle of a war, and electing Howard Dean could lose that war. It will be either Bush or Dean. I choose Bush.

Some folks on the right need to get a clue, or by a vowel, or both. EVERTONE on the right needs to vote for Bush this election cycle. You may not agree with everything he has done. Success in the war, however, should trump every other issue.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

[Kevin Curry]

It appears to help keep politicians moderate, preventing wingnuts from either end of the spectrum . . .

Ronald Reagan was considered a far-right wing radical. We need more like him.

Clinton--whose foul misrule you impliedly admire and praise with your silly, tepid, insipid drivel--was a so-called moderate, as was Carter. You're welcome to both of them.

[Howlin]

Now, EV, you know that "we" are not considered "conservatives" in the party.

In fact, "party" is considered a vile word, according to these people.

And, um, left wing?

[sinkspur]

Sorry. You're not going to get rid of direct taxation. I prefer a retail sales tax, but even a Libertarian would not be able to dismantle, completely, the tax system.

So much of what the LP proposes is fantasy; that's why nobody takes you seriously.

[Nanodik]

I will say this we sure as hell don't need Canadians "saving" us from ourselves

Actually, when I was saying "you", I meant that as a general term so I was not actually referring to "you" as you are a lost cause. And get it straight, I am not a Canadian. Thankfully there was a cure to that called immigration, so I managed to overcome my "Canadianism". You however are an idiot, and I am afraid your condition is terminal.

[Soylent Democrats]

Very true. I posted (#501) several brief contentions where the LP fails miserably. Fight the good fight, my friend. We're going to win this one.

[Quix]

Vote Bush.

He's a pretty darn decent leader in a list of ways.

He prays earnestly and has a load more humility than the next 100 in line combined

And . . . there's no one else more conservative who has a shred of a chance of getting voted in as National Dog Catcher or higher.

[EternalVigilance]

But Reagan wasn't a hard-right radical. The leftist media just like to portray him as such. Any careful examination of his career will show that he was a moderate conservative.

George W. Bush I would classify just to RR's left...to put a fine point on it, I consider him a conservative moderate.

Of course, to listen to the leftwing press, they both are to the right of Genghis Khan.

[onyx]

Let's really compare LP to GOP. Please cite the elected offices held by LP? US Senators, congress persons?

Yall are not players. Just viewers, bitching from the side lines.

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

Just what makes you so superior as to label someone an "idiot" simply because they do not agree with your rhetoric?

[ETERNAL WARMING]

If most vote for him anyway, WE CAN WIN! Bush has lost a large number of supporters. Between his antics and the Democrats, another option stand a good chance of taking the Whitehouse. Failing that, with good numbers we can turn to Janus cabal on it's ears.

[EternalVigilance]

And, um, left wing?

Um, speaking generally, of course. ;-)

[ETERNAL WARMING]

Hey, Texas.

You deport them by letting them deport themselves. You get them to do that by prosecuting employers who hire them under the RICO Act, and stop the public assistance. They'll run for the border when Uncle Sugar has had enough.

[ETERNAL WARMING]

Most people know who Tancredo is.

[ETERNAL WARMING]

Most people know who Tancredo is. The point in doing that is to get the 50% who don't vote anymore to join the fight and take back this country.