Cleveland Plain Dealer Declares War on Citizens of Ohio.

Tasty Manatees ^ | January 12, 2004 | Posted by Ryan

[OldFriend]

In many states you are liable if your gun is stolen from your home and used in the commission of a crime.

[OldFriend]

If you lived in Ohio and had a firearm in your home you certainly WOULD care who knew!

[Mrs Zip]

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[SAMWolf]

I assume they're also going to publish the names and addresses of anyone who doesn't owna weapon, right?

[fish hawk]

If I'm packin, I want everyone to know it. Especially that punk mugger in the park. I would even wear a sign on me saying "I'm professin Smith and Wesson"

[Ukiapah Heep]

"In the spirit of the public's "right to know", I will be happy to publish the owner's/editors' home addresses and phone numbers here and ensure their widespread distribution, should the newspaper ever follow through with the amazing threats they are making against the people of Ohio."

Let's include Elizabeth "I love anything Muslim" Sullivan.

[Tuxedo]

The only real problem here is advertising who has guns in their house. It invites criminals to break in when the homeowners are away from home. The PD lost me as a customer a few years ago. It is ridiculous that they could act so put out. The journalists fought to get themselves access on this bill and Taft conceded and made it mandatory in order for him to sign it.

[ibbryn]

This is the way to turn the issue around.

Publish the name and home address of the papers editors along with the notice the editors choose NOT to obtain a CCW and can be assumed by burglers, robbers and rapists to be unarmed.

[Waco]

OK, everyone gets a permit, or pretends they got one and boycott the P.D. It'll bust em. Be a hoot. A newspaper killed by CCW holders? Whee!

[Alberta's Child]

This is really horrifying and may very well lead to breaking and entering to find guns in the home.

Note: Breaking into a home occupied by someone with a concealed-carry permit is my definition of a bad career move.

[alrea]

You don't wanna mess with me, My name's in the "Dealer"

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[OldFriend]

That is if you assume that the homeowner ALWAYS carries......that is patently ridiculous!

[mo]

If I live in Cleveland..regardless of whether I carry or not...I'm gonna be REAL UPSET if my address is NOT on that list.....as I'm sure those of the PD editors and staff will be?....?!!!

[Alberta's Child]

Do you want to take that chance?

Even if he only carries 20% of the time, you've got better odds playing Russian roulette with a six-shooter.

[Bosco]

Ohioans, don't get your undies in a bunch. Here's what you do:

Fight fire with fire. Do a public records search on the PD editors and reporters. I am willing to bet there are a few private investigators in Ohio who would jump at the chance to get the particulars on these folks. Get a nice web domain with a catchy name that people will remember and post all of their information on the web site. Blab the info to radio talk shows in Cleveland, Columbus, Cincy, etc., making sure to highlight the juicy stuff on these newsies to get the number of hits up. As more papers, radio and TV stations publish the names, add them to the web site. They'll say it's blackmail or worse but everyone will see them for what they are.

If you're squeamish about getting your name published wait until the Ohio Atty General enters into reciprocal agreements with another state that has CCW and out-of-state provisions. Get a permit from the other state and worry no more.

Have a nice day.

[ExSoldier]

"If I'm packin, I want everyone to know it."

Riiiight. So the "punk mugger" and his pals can first wait for you to take a walk someplace quiet. When the coast is clear, pop you behind the ear with a nice little .22LR and THEN while you're out (forever), his buddies can hit your place and get the rest of your stuff and your loved ones. Uh-huh. As a firearms instructor this is one reason I discourage my clients from posting a "Protected by Smith and Wesson" sticker on their windows.

There is I think a similar position to exposure in Florida law, exemptions are for former and current law enforcement and their families (like me). But for some reason the media has never really taken advantage of the opportunity and it's not like the Miami press isn't liberal! Maybe it's because enough democrats have permits, too, that they don't want to anger a major voting constituency. So, they're just exercising more liberal "bias" in not printing the story, so as to further the democrat agenda. Ya think?

[DarkWaters]

If not mistaken, here in Ohio there is a degree of liability if authorities are not contacted with in a certain amount of time. As for it being used and not telling, I don't know what kind of charges they can file, nor am I willing to find out.

[OldFriend]

It was relatively easy to get the firearm in Ohio.

Here in NJ it took over six months. Fingerprints, letters of recommendation, township investigation, county, and state and then off to the FBI...........what a disgrace, but then it IS New Jersey after all.

[foreverfree]

What do you expect from that Marxist rag?

What newspaper other than the WashTimes and the NYP isn't?

foreverfree

[Alain2112]

This is really horrifying and may very well lead to breaking and entering to find guns in the home.

No! No! No! You don't understand how it works: criminals will stay *away* from these homes, where they know the owners are packing heat. That's how it works. More guns, less crime. The cunning robber will stick to the houses without guns, as identified by their absence on the list, which will force non-gun owners to get permits and have their names added to the list. One hand washes the other, the world spins gleefully on its axis, and we all arrive together in the promised land of personal safety and a crime free city.