[kellynla]

Many people may not like him and I don't agree with everything he says, but he on the money with this issue.

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[JohnGalt]

Posted on Friday, Real Message of The Bush Amnesty, but you should certainly add your comments to that thread as a consensus emerges.

[The_Eaglet]

One sees here the cynical ploy of “Boy Genius” Karl Rove. With the filing deadlines for the Republican primaries having passed and no GOP opponent, with no Third Party challenger from the Right,

There is a third party challenger from the right. His name is Michael Peroutka.

[TomServo]

4th posting...

[the invisib1e hand]

The 'real message' is that it's not amnesty at all.

[Dialup Llama]

>Imagine a car wash that employs 40 African-American, Latino, and white working-class folks at $8 an hour each. A new car wash down the street opens up, offering 40 new jobs at $5.15 an hour. No Americans apply.

This is how we get 'jobs that Americans won't do,' by artifcially driving down the prevailing wage by flooding the labor market with illegals. Normally a wage will be set with some reference to the cost of living through the market forces. When you flood the labor market you drive the wages below the normal cost of living reference and you suddenly get 'jobs that lazy Americans won't do.' Moreover, the new car wash doesn't want to pay fed withholding, workers comp etc... and so specially excludes workers of a legal status (Americans etc...)

[liberallarry]

His amnesty will send this message to the world: the candy store is open, and the Americans cannot protect it. Now is the time to bust in

The real message to the world will be that American is an inclusive, generous and decent society - confident enough in its strength to do this. The statue of liberty still represents this country.

Half a century ago, Dwight Eisenhower, informed there were a million illegals in the United States, most of them from Mexico, ordered them sent back. The project was called “Operation Wetback.”

20 or 30 years before Ike we deported half a million Mexicans. A reminder to those who think this is a recent problem.

I think Buchanan is right to point out that this amnesty puts a tremendous strain on our society. I don't like it. Buts he's wrong about the message it sends and about the consequences of the choices. The world is a different place than it was under Ike or Hoover. Deporting 8 or 12 million to Mexico would completely destabilize its government and society, and I doubt they would go quietly.

[Redbob]

The REAL message?

"I don't give a Kerry what the Conservatives think!"

[Euro-American Scum]

Taxpayers are then forced to subsidize the newly unemployed—and pay for the medical care, food stamps, rent supplements, welfare, and schooling of all the new immigrants and their families, provide legal services when they get in trouble and pay for more cops to police their neighborhoods.

And just how are taxpayers going to subsidize all of this when there are no taxpayers. Illegals don't pay taxes, remember?

[Tacis]

What 8 to 14 million? There is no aspect of this foolishness that will stop the flow of illegal alien criminals over the southern border. In fact, it should increase the flow as aliens all over Central and South America figure that there will have to be another amnesty somewhere down the road.

THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS FOR AMERICANS!!! The dope doesn't stop, the criminal aliens don't stop, killers aren't extradited, we don't get our water, blacks don't get jobs, Republicans don't get voters, capital doesn't stop gushing back to Mexico, and Mexican crime doesn't stop. WE GET NOTHING!!!

[joesnuffy]

Happy La Re-Conquista day

[Robert Drobot]

"Many people may not like him and I don't agree with everything he says, but he on the money with this issue."

If you're referring to Buchanan, I agree. Though I would refrain from the 'on the money' phrase - inasmuch as it's not worth the paper used to print it.

But hey, we have so many home grown welfare/government/New World Order money leaching monkeys on our back, we would be wrong to bemoan putting those eight million (only???) criminals and their children through all levels of education, provide medical care and support, give them the right to sue Americans, expand prisons to accommodate the Mexican criminal criminals who commit crimes of violence and theft against law abiding American Citizens, provide for no-contribution social security benefits to the sick and disabled that crawl across the border, and turn a blind eye to the terrorizing of American Citizens in our towns bordering Mexico.

It's the least we can do to underscore our place in world history as the greatest manipulator of national debt among all nations. tion

Congratulations are clearly in order to the legislative, judicial and executive branches of all levels of American government!!!

You have accomplished what no foreign power could do. You financially crippled and ultimately destroyed the only nation in the world that at one time acknowledged the Creator as superior to government in our founding documents, The Declaration of Independence and The Constitution of these united States of America.

There will be a day of justice. For having turned their back on God Almighty, His retribution will be their reward.

[citizen]

...Rove & Co. may have stretched conservative loyalty to the breaking point.

Yep, that describes me to a tee.

I'm not voting for the RINO-in-Chief. I'm going write-in [Tom Tancredo] or 3rd party if there is a candidate I like.

[international american]

"Imagine a car wash that employs 40 African-American, Latino, and white working-class folks at $8 an hour each. A new car wash down the street opens up, offering 40 new jobs at $5.15 an hour. No Americans apply. Under Bush’s proposal, that employer would be free to go to Asia, Africa, and Latin America, round up workers, and bring them in.

The new car wash with its foreign workers then drives the old car wash with its American workers out of business. Taxpayers are then forced to subsidize the newly unemployed—and pay for the medical care, food stamps, rent supplements, welfare, and schooling of all the new immigrants and their families, provide legal services when they get in trouble and pay for more cops to police their neighborhoods."

There you are!

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Bush to conservatives: Bite me.

[Beck_isright]

"By offering amnesty and residency to millions who broke in line, broke our laws and broke into our country, Bush is not only rewarding wholesale criminality, he proposes to legalize it."

It depends on what your defininition of the word "is" is. I guess since it was good enough for Caligula, it's good enough for Rove.