TAKE TWO: UNDERSTANDING CLARK (Clark's Continuing Conspiracy Theories)

Republican National Committee ^ | RNC

[Luis Gonzalez]

CLARK CONSPIRACY NO. 18

MR. CLARK:  "[I]t came from the White House, it came from people around the White House. ... I got a call on 9/11. I was on CNN, and I got a call at my home saying, 'You got to say this is connected ... to Saddam Hussein.'"  (NBC's "Meet The Press," 6/15/03)

QUESTION:  Who is "around" the White House?

CLARK CONSPIRACY NO. 17

MR. CLARK:  "I never got any of these calls from the White House. I got a call from Canada, from a man who was running a Middle East think tank ..."  (WDUN's "The Martha Zoller Show," 7/1/03)

QUESTION:  Is Canada "around the White House"?

CLARK CONSPIRACY NO. 16

MR. CLARK:  "A man from a - of a Middle East think tank in Canada, the man who's the brother of a very close friend of mine in Belgium. He's very well connected to Israeli intelligence."  (MSNBC's "Buchanan And Press," 8/25/03)

QUESTION:  Is your very close friend's brother a source for any of your other theories?

CLARK CONSPIRACY NO. 15

MR. CLARK:  "The White House, actually back in February, apparently tried to get me knocked off CNN."  (Newsradio 620 KTAR, 8/25/03 As Reported On Fox News' "Special Report," 8/26/03)

QUESTION:  Aren't you confusing the Bush White House with the Clinton White House, which actually did relieve you from duty?

CLARK CONSPIRACY NO. 14

MR. CLARK:  "[Being relieved from NATO Command] was, Clark says, a setup, engineered by [Defense Secretary] Cohen's office and by the Chiefs. As for Clinton, 'He was hornswoggled.'"  (Peter J. Boyer, "General Clark's Battles," The New Yorker, 11/17/03)

QUESTION:  Are you suggesting Bill Clinton, the Commander in Chief of the United States, was tricked into firing you?

CLARK CONSPIRACY NO. 13

MR. CLARK:  "First of all, I wasn't relieved [from NATO Command]."  (MSNBC's "Hardball," 12/8/03))

QUESTION:  Because it was a trick?

CLARK CONSPIRACY NO. 12

MR. CLARK:  "[H]e says, this is Bradley Graham from The Washington Post, and we have an official authorized Pentagon news leak that you'll be replaced"  (MSNBC's "Hardball," 12/8/03)

QUESTION:  What exactly is an "official authorized news leak"?

CLARK CONSPIRACY NO. 11

MR. CLARK:  "The Secretary of Defense had to leak his own memo to explain that we have no strategy to deal with terrorism ..."  (Wesley Clark, Remarks To Center For American Progress, 10/28/03)

QUESTION:  Was it common practice when you were NATO Commander to leak memos to explain strategy?

CLARK CONSPIRACY NO. 10

MR. CLARK:  "Well, that's [Rumsfeld leaking his memo] what the rumor is, and it's been talked about on the Sunday talk shows."  (Wesley Clark, Remarks To Center For American Progress, 10/28/03)

QUESTION:  Is your favorite album "Rumors" by Fleetwood Mac?

CLARK CONSPIRACY NO. 9

MR. CLARK:  "I went back through the Pentagon in November 2001 ... [Iraq] was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan ... and there were a total of seven countries [to be invaded] ..."  (Wesley Clark, "The Clark Critique," Newsweek, 9/29/03)

QUESTION:  Is invading seven countries more macho than just picking one at random?

CLARK CONSPIRACY NO. 8

MR. CLARK:  "[T]hey told me there was something, some kind of a memo or something. I never saw it."  (As Quoted In Paul Barton, "Clark Again Tells Of Post-9/11 Hit List," Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, 11/4/03)

QUESTION:  ¯¯ Look at all these rumors surrounding me everyday... ¯¯  (From "Rumors," By Timex Social Club)

CLARK CONSPIRACY NO. 7

MR. CLARK:  "You only have to listen to the gossip around Washington and to hear what the neoconservatives are saying and you will get the flavor of this."  (As Quoted In Paul Barton, "Clark Again Tells Of Post-9/11 Hit List," Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, 11/4/03)

QUESTION:  Gossip, rumors and secret plans? Oh my!  Gossip, rumors and secret plans? Oh my!

[Luis Gonzalez]

To read more of Clark's Conspiracy Theories, Visit
http://www.gop.com/Newsroom/RNCResearch/research010804-2.htm

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[Peach]

Thanks for posting this; I'd lost track of his multiple conspiracy theories and will save this to my Clark file.

[international american]

Bush must have hired these idiots to run against him. I would sell them all for a buck, and consider it a bargain:)

[Luis Gonzalez]

[Inyokern]

Hmmm. Dean supports gay marriage but Clark is endorsed by Madonna.

What to do..what to do...

[FormerACLUmember]

Is it just me, or are not five of the seven dwarfs mad as hatters?

Lieberman and Gephardt seem relatively sane political hacks. The rest are all truly delusional.

[Peach]

I'm in complete agreement with you. They are delusional. The more they talk, the more delusional they sound.

The really frightening thing is that there are ANY Americans that relate to them and/or support them.

Further proof a mental competency test should be given at the time of voting...

[FormerACLUmember]

There is something fundamentally wrong with the rat party Presidential nomination system. It is bad for our nation when one party is so totally in the hands of psychotic and extremist forces. And the national media has turned a total blind eye to this serious problem.

[Peach]

I was just going to write about the media's role in all this and you beat me to it.

They are complicit and seem to take their talking points from the Rats. It's hard to believe that the party of Kennedy et al have moved so far left. Even he believed in tax cuts and asked so famously "Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country." Today the attitude is to let the government do EVERYTHING. The Rats have vilianized (sp?) the rich, big business, Republicans on general principal seemingly, white religious types, etc. The party of inclusion has become quite hateful and intolerant for all those who have opinions differing from their own.

[tpaine]

Very confusing amateur format luis. -- There's no order to the quotes, & the commets following them are obviously staged as questions. Can't the RNC do better?

It'll do for preaching to the choir, --- but Clarks smoke may conceal a little fire.. -- And little fires are like little cancers, as Nixon found true.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"Very confusing amateur format luis"

ROTFLMAO!!!

Nothing left to comment on tommy?

[Luis Gonzalez]

"There's no order to the quotes."

Source and date provided, arranged in chronological order...your agenda, and your lack of attention to detail is showing.

I guess I should not have attacked your candidate.

[marron]

As bad as some of the other Dem candidates are, I would pick any one of them before I would Clark. Some of the others are bad, but there is just something very empty about this gentleman.

[tpaine]

NO. 12 12/8/03)
NO. 11 10/28/03
NO. 10 10/28/03)
NO. 9 9/29/03)
NO. 8 11/4/03)

--- arranged in chronological order

...your agenda, and your lack of attention to detail is showing.


I guess I should not have attacked your candidate.


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As I said, the RNC is amateur..

My agenda & candidate? I have no candidate. The RLC can't find one that supports our constitution.

[lepton]

Previously posted here.

Interesting notation:

To: MJY1288

You probably already know this, but for anybody that doesn't... Clark's press aide "Mary"...a little info.

http://www.prospect.org/webfeatures/2003/09/franke-ruta-g-09-25.html

Clark's new Arkansas press aide Jacoby quit her post as a reporter for the St. Petersburg Times to work for Clark; Jacoby's father, Jon Jacoby, is a good friend of Clark's, according to Spell, and knows him from Little Rock, where he is a director and executive of the Clinton-allied Stephens Group, Inc. and a senior executive at Stephens, Inc., the investment firm where Clark worked after returning to civilian life. Mary Jacoby has never worked on a political campaign before -- though she did once work as a file clerk at Hillary Clinton's Rose Law Firm, subject of the Whitewater investigation, according to 1996 reports -- and has extensive experience as a political reporter.

51 posted on 01/09/2004 7:41:42 PM PST by terilyn

at Stephens, Inc., the investment firm where Clark worked after returning to civilian life.

Stephens,Inc.: Dan Lassiter, Patsy Thommasson - and later on John Huang using their Washington offices to send faxes and make calls to the Chinese Embassy at conclusion of classified Commerce Department briefings briefings, as well as accepting drops and messages for Huang to make contacts.

[terilyn]

You probably already know this, but for anybody that doesn't... Clark's press aide "Mary"...a little info.

http://www.prospect.org/webfeatures/2003/09/franke-ruta-g-09-25.html

Clark's new Arkansas press aide Jacoby quit her post as a reporter for the St. Petersburg Times to work for Clark; Jacoby's father, Jon Jacoby, is a good friend of Clark's, according to Spell, and knows him from Little Rock, where he is a director and executive of the Clinton-allied Stephens Group, Inc. and a senior executive at Stephens, Inc., the investment firm where Clark worked after returning to civilian life. Mary Jacoby has never worked on a political campaign before -- though she did once work as a file clerk at Hillary Clinton's Rose Law Firm, subject of the Whitewater investigation, according to 1996 reports -- and has extensive experience as a political reporter.

[Luis Gonzalez]

What a cowardly life you lead tommy.

Never finding anyone "good enough" to support, your miserly ideology reserved for someone who never seems to materialize, leaving you in a position of never having to actually defend anything, because in the end, you stand for nothing.

What complete lack of courage, what unbelievable self-agrandizement, making the easy choice every single time of trying to knock down everyone, rather than elevating anyone.

You have no candidate because you lack conviction borne of a sense of duty to our country, unlike those of us who rather than sit idly by doing nothing, have the courage to jump into the arena.

"It is not the critic who counts, nor the man who points how the strong man stumbled or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly...who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, and spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at best, knows the triumph of high achievement; and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat." -- Theodore Roosevelt, 1910

[tpaine]

...your agenda, and your lack of attention to detail is showing. I guess I should not have attacked your candidate.

You attack my agenda & candidate? I have no candidate. The RLC can't find one that supports our constitution.

What a cowardly life you lead tommy.

How bizarre you are luis.. - I made a critical comment on the RNC piece you posted, now I'm suddenly a coward?
Why is everything a personal attack with you? Are you immune from the posting guidelines?

Never finding anyone "good enough" to support, your miserly ideology reserved for someone who never seems to materialize, leaving you in a position of never having to actually defend anything, because in the end, you stand for nothing.

My record on FR of standing for our constitution is evident by my posts, --available to all.. You are delusional, luis, to say otherwise.

What complete lack of courage, what unbelievable self-agrandizement, making the easy choice every single time of trying to knock down everyone, rather than elevating anyone. You have no candidate because you lack conviction borne of a sense of duty to our country, unlike those of us who rather than sit idly by doing nothing, have the courage to jump into the arena. "It is not the critic who counts, nor the man who points how the strong man stumbled or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly...who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, and spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at best, knows the triumph of high achievement; and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat." -- Theodore Roosevelt, 1910..

Yet here I m luis, in the FR arena, and in reply to my ctitiques of your positions, all I ever hear from you is personal abuse.. -- For shame lad... Get a grip on your emotions.

[Luis Gonzalez]

There are no emotions here tommy, I am simply unmasking you for what you are, a sideliner, a backseat driver, a man who, lacking anyone to elevate and support, instead takes the cheap and easy way out, and spends his time putting everyone down.

You've taken yourself out of the fight using the lame excuse that no one meets your "standards", then spend your time those of us who continue to fight.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"Yet here I m luis, in the FR arena"

You are in your house, posting blather on an internet forum tommy, quit agrandizing yourself.

Come on out to the arena with me, work a precint for ANYONE, even if that anyone is yourself.