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Email/Letter writing campaign against The President's plan for immigration
Myself

Posted on 01/07/2004 7:45:17 PM PST by Remember_Salamis

Has anybody started an email/letter writing campaign in response to the president's proposed immigration initiative?

We need to show the president that he can't take advantage of his conservative base.


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KEYWORDS: bush; illegal; immigration
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To: Cultural Jihad
An interesting analysis. Much like the homosexual activists are to the Democratic Party, which learned they are not very loyal constituents, either.

The democrats are letting the fringe left dictate their policies so completley that they are losing more and more of the Jewish vote due to their embrace of Islamics, more and more of their black and hispanic base due to their embrace of homosexuals and are at a 3 to 1 disadvantage with independents due to their comunistic approach to business and taxes. The GOP is NOT going to repeat that mistake by caving to a "base" that is both unreliable but downright hostile to bringing in new people that do not meet the "base" purity test. The democrats are now the stupid party.

201 posted on 01/07/2004 10:51:11 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Zipporah
Are you saying that illegal immigration will spare social security?

That's precisely what he's saying, with the proviso that first you have to wave the magic wand and declare the illegals to be legal.

What he doesn't grasp is that adding one more ply to the ponzi scheme won't save it. It will only forestall the inevitable, and make the ultimate collapse that much worse.

The cure to socialist schemes (a la "the great society" and all its descendants) is not to open the floodgates to non-americans. The cure to socialist schemes is to end the socialist schemes.

Honestly, if I knew I was voting for someone whose core beliefs included the idea that socialism was good, viable, and necessary for my country, I never would have voted for Rove in the first place.

I certainly won't be repeating that mistake come November. I'm gonna sit this one out. Me, and upwards of 80% of the constituency.

I think we're finally gonna have the answer to the "well where are they gonna go if not with us?" question posed any time the countryclubbers at the "Grand" Old Party are queried on their betrayals of their base.

Their base isn't gonna go anywhere. Their base is gonna stay home on election day.

Their base is finally fed up with the game.

Yes, Virginia, "The Straw That Broke The Camel's Back" is based on a true principle.

202 posted on 01/07/2004 10:52:31 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: CWOJackson
It helps when they receive communications from people who either express their support, or address concerns without political threats.

Oooh, nice spindoctor work there!

Now, saying, "you betrayed your base, so you've lost our votes" is characterized as a threat?

What next would you propose? Perhaps an EO declaring that anyone refusing to support administration policy -- up to and including support at the voting booth -- is guilty of treason?

203 posted on 01/07/2004 10:55:26 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: Dane
Not to mention the fact that S. Korea uses a significant chunk of its 750k conscript army to defend that short border.
204 posted on 01/07/2004 10:57:57 PM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: Stallone
Time will prove the wisdom of the Bush policy.

Yup, I agree.

Um, you do realize that your statement is value-neutral, don't you?

205 posted on 01/07/2004 10:57:57 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: Texasforever
Bush factored out all of this "base" based on their pattern of taking their ball and going home over the last 4 election cycles. He doesn't need them and he sure doesn't owe them a thing.

I think so too. This "paleo" crowd here are really the Perotistas. They're blue collar democrats who've been forced out of that party by the identity groups, secularists, feminist abortionists, anti industry envirowhacks and the gay/lesbian tong. They want DESPERATELY to be old Rostenkowski/Dingell protectionist union democrats, but the Democrat party doesn't want them. I'll bet many haven't voted GOP since Reagan in 84.

206 posted on 01/07/2004 10:59:20 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: Don Joe
Provide evidence of this "base" that you keep touting. Is it the same "base" that voted for Perot in 92? Is it the same "base" that sat at home in 96?. Is it the same 2 million vote "base" that voted either 3rd party or sat at home in 2000? If that is the "base" then that "base" was written off 3 years ago. There is a new "base" in town and it ain't the ones you are talking about. A "base" whose only function is to lose elections is not a "base" it is a liability.
207 posted on 01/07/2004 11:00:01 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Luis, we're sending you up there as a poll watcher/chad sweeper next election! How you doing friend?
208 posted on 01/07/2004 11:02:42 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: two23
when they are granted anmesty, that is being rewarded.

It's avoiding the worst consequences for breaking the law I guess. But it's not a reward. Giving them citizenship ahead of all those people trying to get in legally would be a reward. These people are going to pay a price that people who didn't immigrate illegally won't.

209 posted on 01/07/2004 11:02:44 PM PST by MattAMiller (Saddam has been brought to justice in my name. How about yours?)
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To: Uncle Jaque
GWB has been so brilliant in his forign policy and prosecution of the War on Terrorism - how can he turn around and be such a drooler on domestic issues?

I don't get it. I really don't.

It's actually quite simple when you think about it. The military prosecuted the war, but on the home front, President Rove makes all the decisions.

210 posted on 01/07/2004 11:03:58 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: Constantine XIII
Mines are cheap. And work rather well.... Seriously, it is not an easy issue. I never stated otherwise. But I honestly believe we, as a country , could find a way to get our borders secure. Even if it means doing everything you said. But my opinion is Bush`s plan is only going to flood this country will cheap "legal" labor. If you let these people come to this country to just work, then they will never become productive "citizens". They are basically slave labor. They will not be just picking beans in the fields either. They will be in all kinds of industry taking away good paying jobs from American citizens. At a much higher rate than they are now. The tech industry is going through all this with the H1B and L1 visa programs. This is not they way to do it.
211 posted on 01/07/2004 11:07:04 PM PST by Peace will be here soon (Beware, there are some crazy people around here !!! And I could be one of them !!)
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To: AnimalLover
Bill Frist will never read your e-mail. He works as a Senator from Tennessee, and a Majority Leader of the Senate GOP caucus. He reports to the people of TN and 50 GOP Senators. Not someone in California.

Also, using Laura Bush's name in any correspondence to the VP office is a red flag and it might get you some attention of the WRONG KIND.

You need to contact Babs and DiFi. They're probably in your corner already. Good job!!!

212 posted on 01/07/2004 11:09:12 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: Uncle Jaque
And learn Spanish.

Precisely.

But be smart about it.

Learn it on the sly, and don't let on that you understand the language.

Then, don't speak spanish. Just listen...

When you find yourself behind enemy lines, sometimes it's best to just play dumb, and listen. People will say one thing when they think you can understand them, and something completely different when they think you're just a dumb gringo who can't understand what they're saying.

Personally, I'd prefer to know what they're saying behind my back. And if I'm "just a dumb gringo who doesn't understand spanish", then "behind my back" discussions will happen right in front of my face.

So yeah, I will be learning spanish. You can make book on it.

But I won't be speaking spanish.

213 posted on 01/07/2004 11:09:36 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: ArneFufkin
Anyone who'd abandon Bush over this issue is NO core supporter.

That argument cuts both ways.

There's that little matter of anyone who'd abandon their base, after all.

Question: When will the GOP learn that lesson about "ya dance with the one that brung ya"?

Answer: November.

214 posted on 01/07/2004 11:13:16 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
Personally, I'd prefer to know what they're saying behind my back. And if I'm "just a dumb gringo who doesn't understand spanish", then "behind my back" discussions will happen right in front of my face.

No, you have real life confused with that Seinfeld episode where Elaine brought Frank to bust her Korean manicurists.

215 posted on 01/07/2004 11:13:41 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: Don Joe
Do watcha you gotta do. God bless America.
216 posted on 01/07/2004 11:15:07 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: AnimalLover
"I remind you what we the people of California
accomplished once former Governor Davis
signed the bill giving driver's licenses for illegals."

Bingo! If this republican doesn't fill the bill then grey him out in favor of another one.
217 posted on 01/07/2004 11:15:50 PM PST by DeepDish (I no longer capitalize french or france, only things proper or significant are capitalized.)
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To: DeepDish
If this republican doesn't fill the bill then grey him out in favor of another one.

Who?

218 posted on 01/07/2004 11:16:37 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Don Joe
Please, don't insult my intelligence, it takes less steps than that to quit a bad heroin habit.

The problem with these "pie-in-the-sky" solutions to the issue, is that every single one of them refuses to acknowledge political reality, and is dependent on the existence of a political vacuum in America.

It's a cute little list, with some formidable formatting, but it amounts to no more than the musings of a keyboard political junkie with no earthly notion of the realities of government. If anything, these eighteen steps are eighteen goals, getting there is the trick, not listing them.

By the time we get to step two, the ten million existing illegal immigrants, will have forty two million American grandkids.

219 posted on 01/07/2004 11:17:55 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: pollywog
Preach it, brother, Preach it.... well said.
220 posted on 01/07/2004 11:20:13 PM PST by Phyto Chems
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