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W's Live Speech Thread
Fox News | 1-7-04 | my favorite headache

Posted on 01/07/2004 11:29:59 AM PST by My Favorite Headache

Press conference starts at 2:45 EST....get the prilosec out...we are going to need it.



TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush43; illegalimmigrants; immigrationreform
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To: tubavil
I won't make that mistake again. Oh yeah? You thing DEAN or HILLARY is a better choice. ROFL! That's a good one.
901 posted on 01/07/2004 1:30:14 PM PST by LinuxRocks
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To: tallhappy
Translated excerpts from the pictured article:

The president of the United States, George W. Bush, will present a plan of migration reform which upon approval of the Congress of the country will give temporary employment for three years to some eight million undocumented workers. The great majority of these are of mexican origin.

To the surprise of the hispanic community in the United States and the Congress and to the pleasure and satisfaction of the government of Vicente Fox the ambitious Bush project will benefit the White House's estimated eight million undocumenteds.....

"We have been analyzing the importance of covering an economic necessity. Immigration laws ought to cover our economic needs, if the employers are offering jobs to Americans that they don't want, then we have the obligation to offer them to citizens of a[nother] country that want them" said Scott McClellan, Bush's spokesman....

In a special White House ceremony in which he will be surrounded by 150 Hispanic Community leaders of Republican affiliation (primary ethnic minority in the United States consisting of 38.8 million persons, 60 per cent of which are mexican or of mexican origin), Bush will announce this immigration law reform project, which has been the dream of Vicente Fox: an integral migratory reform to regularize the status of more than three million undocumented mexicans who live and work in the United States for several years. "President Bush has retained his opposition to a general amnesty", according to the White House spokesman....

Bush "will speak of the necessity of matching the desires of employers with workers. This is a discussion which he initiated in February 2001 with President Fox, when President Bush visited Mexico (in San Cristobal, Guanajuato) and forms part of our efforts to make a more orderly, secure and humane migration policy" according to McClellan....

902 posted on 01/07/2004 1:30:33 PM PST by yatros from flatwater (The camel's hump is under the tent!)
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To: cyncooper
*Sniff* *Sniff*
903 posted on 01/07/2004 1:30:34 PM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: jimt
Your LA list signifies nothing except there are many Latinos living in the LA area.

Most wanted criminals in the early 20th century in NYC were probably Italians and other immigrants. So what? Does that mean the US should have ceased immgration from Europe?

904 posted on 01/07/2004 1:30:54 PM PST by eleni121
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To: WackyKat
I think you are too far right and not willing to work out a solution. You just want to b*tch and moan.
905 posted on 01/07/2004 1:30:54 PM PST by BushisTheMan
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To: Hildy
You do know that when you contradict what the Bush-Bashers want to believe, they get really antsy.
906 posted on 01/07/2004 1:31:12 PM PST by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: cyncooper
Some thread, huh?
907 posted on 01/07/2004 1:31:51 PM PST by EllaMinnow (I miss Chancellor Palpatine. Heck, I even miss Illbay.)
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To: You Dirty Rats
"So if the General Election were held next Tuesday and the choice was between Bush and Dean, would you stay home?"

I'm staying home. The GOP has lost me. IF there are any quality Constitutionalist Party candidates in local races, then I'll vote.
908 posted on 01/07/2004 1:31:54 PM PST by Beck_isright ("Deserving ain't got nothing to do with it" - William Money)
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To: McGavin999
This was spelled out specifically in his speech.

Well, if he said so, it must be true.

909 posted on 01/07/2004 1:32:00 PM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: King Black Robe
Regardless of the motives, paying a group of people a fraction of our own market value is exactly what got us into slavery. We've been down this road. When will we learn?

Uh could you please show me where Americans are going to Mexico and buying slaves?

Sheesh they want to work here, maybe instead of incessant bitching you could try to export the free market ideal to Mexico.

910 posted on 01/07/2004 1:32:08 PM PST by Dane
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To: rintense
Because some where along the way, they were led to believe that they are too good for those jobs, that those jobs are beneath them.

Agreed...I experienced this first hand just recently when trying to assist a friend's boyfriend because he was unemployed. He wanted me to buy him tools so that he could get a construction job (I had already been paying their rent so they wouldn't become homeless, they owe me about $2000). Since there was a brand new Walmart across the street, I told him to go apply for a stocker job and then he could support him and her while getting his tools at an employee discount as well as getting benefits for them in the meantime. His reply was "I build Walmarts, I don't work in them". Enough said...I told him I was not giving him anything. Now they are homeless...oh, well...

911 posted on 01/07/2004 1:32:29 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: Rate_Determining_Step
I agree with your remarks.

I hate bigotry.

It is ugly every time - no matter who is its subject or its author.

912 posted on 01/07/2004 1:32:51 PM PST by kinsman redeemer
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To: tubavil
I predict a third-party spoiler and Dean is just a trial balloon for the DNC. Be on the lookout for a candidate that will appeal to conservatives and some of the right of center. I'm thinking this is the Dem strategy, they know Dean is too left wing to win. The DNC's main problem is their image with moderates and I think they know it.
913 posted on 01/07/2004 1:32:53 PM PST by RockyMtnMan
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To: My Favorite Headache
I worry more about suitcase nukes.

And will wait and learn the truth of Bushs plan in the weeks ahead, instead of relying on Closet Bush haters, 3rd party recruiters, and DU spies to to intepret or misinterpret what he is trying to do.

Not to say anyone who disagrees is one of the above, but there are plenty here who are imo.

914 posted on 01/07/2004 1:32:57 PM PST by No Blue States
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To: larryjohnson
Mr Bush has proposed,not put into law but proposed a solution which will tie up congresscritters from now into 2006. Meanwhile he gets reelected and the law which gets passed will be dictated by a more conservative Congress. The dems NOW have to support what he proposed and can do nothing later if it fails.

I'm very impressed with your logic in this matter. Kudos to you!

915 posted on 01/07/2004 1:33:12 PM PST by BushisTheMan
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To: BushisTheMan
What law is being disregarded? The president didn't say he approved of illegal immigration. He is coming up with a plan that allows for documented temporary workers.

¿Qué? Bush is disregarding our immigration laws. Illegals are here because they came here illegally, breaking our laws. And, instead of the deportation they deserve, Bush is giving them documentation and legal status. Who says crime don't pay?

916 posted on 01/07/2004 1:33:36 PM PST by kevao
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To: BushisTheMan
I think you are too far right and not willing to work out a solution.

When did being conservative become a matter being "too far right?"

917 posted on 01/07/2004 1:34:04 PM PST by mhking (MaldiciĆ³n justa.)
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Ayiee yie yie yieeee

918 posted on 01/07/2004 1:34:05 PM PST by evets (I am the frito bandito)
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To: rintense
Your are missing the point, they fully intend for these illegals to vote. Haven't you been paying attention?

The Republican party is willing to risk being extinct for the chance to pander enough hispanic illegals to the Republican Party. It's a fools errand. This is a full frontal attack on our sovereignty, culture, and tax payers.
919 posted on 01/07/2004 1:34:25 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: BushisTheMan
Both are violating the law. Both should be punished. Bush's plan rewards both.
920 posted on 01/07/2004 1:34:33 PM PST by KantianBurke (Don't Tread on Me)
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