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"Mr. Bush" not "President Bush"
NBC Today Show
| 1/7/04
| NBC Journalists
Posted on 01/07/2004 7:54:20 AM PST by websterdog
Reported this morning on the Today Show, in the segment about the illegals working in this country, the regulars (Matt, Katie, Ann & Al) go to the reporter in the field and our president is referred to as "Mr. Bush" not "President Bush".
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Reported this morning on the Today Show, in the segment about the illegals working in this country, the regulars (Matt, Katie, Ann & Al) go to the reporter in the field and our president is referred to as "Mr. Bush" not "President Bush". I've seen this on the increase recently as the election is heating up. Has anyone else noticed? I think their disrespect is alarming and biased since they will refer to a competitor as "Presidential hopeful Howard Dean. And certainly any reference to Bill Clinton is always President Clinton. Is this going on in other networks too?
To: websterdog
I believe either is proper.
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posted on
01/07/2004 7:55:49 AM PST
by
ladtx
( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
To: websterdog
They probably think calling him "Mr" Bush is a sign of respect after what they call him off camera.
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posted on
01/07/2004 7:56:47 AM PST
by
Az Joe
To: ladtx
I don't remember hearing them say 'Mister Clinton.'
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posted on
01/07/2004 7:57:17 AM PST
by
demlosers
(Light weight and flexible - radiation shielding is solved.)
To: ladtx
I don't think I ever heard the press refer to President Clinton as Mr. Clinton.
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posted on
01/07/2004 7:58:35 AM PST
by
Steve_Seattle
("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
To: demlosers
Well, it's not like Bush was really elected or anything.
(Just KIDDING!)
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posted on
01/07/2004 7:58:52 AM PST
by
Maceman
(Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
To: demlosers
I first noticed it back when it was "Mister Carter" and I've heard it for every president since.
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posted on
01/07/2004 7:59:05 AM PST
by
EllaMinnow
(I miss Chancellor Palpatine. Heck, I even miss Illbay.)
To: websterdog
Actually, if you listen to so-called conservative talk show hosts like Hannity and Rush, they often just call him just "Bush" in discussions. It's just a general incivility and lack of protocol and doesn't belong exclusively to the left. You'd think our side could do better.
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posted on
01/07/2004 8:01:36 AM PST
by
Camachee
(`)
To: websterdog
Give six months, and it will be "Nominee President Dean [or Clark]," "President Hussein" and "Dictator Bush."
News story references:
*BBC, Reuters, ABC, etc. refer to Hussein as President Hussein, even though he seized power by violent coup and never faced a contested election. Meanwhile, it's "Dictator Pinochet," even though he was democratically elected, re-elected, and then unelected.
*Gallup says Clark closed the gap on Dean, going from 22 points down to an insiginificant 4 points down. Now, everyone expects Dean to win New Hampshire, probably Iowa; If Clark then takes any of the states the next week (SC, AZ, NM, OK, MI and two others), he will have be in a tie nationally, will have momentum, and Dean will have fired his ammo.
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posted on
01/07/2004 8:02:28 AM PST
by
dangus
To: websterdog
A reporter will always start a story using the designation "President." After that, it is typical protocol to use "Mr."
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posted on
01/07/2004 8:03:33 AM PST
by
doug from upland
(Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
To: Camachee
The AP Stylebook gives "Mr.---- or President ---- as proper.
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To: demlosers
I don't remember hearing them say 'Mister Clinton.' I do. The terms are used interchangably. However, if you are talking to Mr. Bush, you refer to him as Mr. President.
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posted on
01/07/2004 8:04:09 AM PST
by
Dave S
To: Eric in the Ozarks
I propose "Senor Bush". From today, onward.
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posted on
01/07/2004 8:04:29 AM PST
by
AmericanInTokyo
(I argue as passionately on FR against ILLEGAL ALIENS as I would if Gore, not Bush were President.)
To: dangus
What if Edwards wins in SC? Will the press then seize upon him - an affable, photogenic Southern Democrat - as a winnable alternative to Dean? Will Edwards suddenly become the talk of the town?
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posted on
01/07/2004 8:05:36 AM PST
by
Steve_Seattle
("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
To: websterdog
This is absolutely proper and has been used with every president I can remember. They might not respect him but this is not proof of it.
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posted on
01/07/2004 8:05:49 AM PST
by
kegler4
To: websterdog
Peetah Jennings on ABC refers to President Bush in the same manner. I don't think they mean it in a respectful way.
To: websterdog
MR Ducks
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posted on
01/07/2004 8:06:41 AM PST
by
steveo
To: doug from upland
dfu, the stylebooks (AP is the one that's usually used, although there are others), it's "President" on the first reference, "Mr." used on the second and all subsequent reference.
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posted on
01/07/2004 8:06:45 AM PST
by
Catspaw
To: Dave S
The first time I noticed this was during the 92 debates. Clinton continually refered to President Bush as Mr. Bush - to his face! It was a obvious and predetermined sign of disrespect! One of the first reasons I could not stand Clinton.
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posted on
01/07/2004 8:07:25 AM PST
by
7thson
(I think it takes a big dog to weigh a 100 pounds.)
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