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Say It Ain't So, Dubya
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| 1/7/04
| Bob Lonsberrry
Posted on 01/07/2004 6:06:39 AM PST by shortstop
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To: apillar
That is the Republicans need conservative votes to get elected so they throw out a few platitudes around election time to make sure conservatives come out to the polls, but as soon as the election is over conservatives concerns are forgotten untill the next election. A few conservatives are given token positions of power, but any true conservative that strives for power is dismissed as extreme and not supported by the party. And just like Blacks and the Democrat party, the republicans can get away with this because conservatives have nowhere else to turn. BUMP!
Just damn...that is so spot on...I'm speechless. Multi-mega-kudos to you.
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posted on
01/07/2004 6:23:44 AM PST
by
BureaucratusMaximus
(if we're not going to act like a constitutional republic...lets be the best empire we can be...)
To: KantianBurke
To late! our President has made a executive decision to lose the election on this one major mistake in policy.
Sorry but I am very angry as are millions of Americans, be they conservative or moderates.
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posted on
01/07/2004 6:24:02 AM PST
by
stopem
To: shortstop
The Mexicans are really bright people. But, when questioned by an American or a cop, they automatically lapse into "Johnny the Dunce." They "no-spicka-de-Inglese," don't understand, and always fake an answer. Yet, EVERY ONE of them already knows how to play this proposal to get the most money and send most of that back to Mexico. Those in Mexico now know when it is best to sneak into the US and claim the maximum. A bunch of them will now, over time, all claim to be the same guy, thereby qualifying for a single benefit, knowing that they will later claim multiple individual benefits (for which no single one has qualified) based on the collective work.
And, while they prepare to loot the federal assests, why not also take private assets. Mexican crime in trhe US will go up!! And, what do we get in return? Has Fox agreed to block all new criminal illegals? Of course not; that is a gringo problem!
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posted on
01/07/2004 6:24:49 AM PST
by
Tacis
To: shortstop
While our men and women die in Iraq, this administration wants to give amnesty to illegal aliens, the greatest danger to our national security. This smacks of treason.
Far too many of these illegal aliens (criminals) have an enormous sense of entitlement: They aren't about to learn English and instead expect us to learn their language. They expect reduced college tuition. They declare boycotts when they don't get what they want. And the latest -- to be able to file anonymous lawsuits. (See "Aliens' college suit derailed," The Washington Times, Jan. 7, '04, p. B3)
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posted on
01/07/2004 6:25:24 AM PST
by
Dante3
To: KantianBurke
"My proposals will cost money and require an expansion of the federal government in certain areas."
Then the self-proclaimed 'real conservatives' will never support it.
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posted on
01/07/2004 6:26:03 AM PST
by
MEGoody
To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing
Because, we conservatives have no one else to vote for without throwing the race to the communist running as demorats.Putting Bush back in will be the end of conservative influence in the GOP. Seems the only time the GOP has any conservative principles is when it is out of power. I intend to do my part to help restore their principles. If it elects a dim, at least we'll see what the house and senate republicans are made of.
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posted on
01/07/2004 6:26:07 AM PST
by
steve50
("There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner.")
To: shortstop
Further proof that Bush, much like Clinton, will stop at absolutely nothing in his drive to get re-elected. And the Bush apologists on FR will line up like lemmings to vote for him.
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posted on
01/07/2004 6:26:26 AM PST
by
kegler4
To: apillar
A few conservatives are given token positions of power, but any true conservative that strives for power is dismissed as extreme and not supported by the party. And just like Blacks and the Democrat party, the republicans can get away with this because conservatives have nowhere else to turn Huh Reagan never signed a partial birth abortion ban. Appointed Sandra Day O'Connor. Oh yeah he signed an amnesty for illegal immigrants.
Anyway before you go your tirades, look at the whole picture and maybe get over your amimus towards people who make your beds at the hotels you stay at or clean the toilets at your office.
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posted on
01/07/2004 6:27:15 AM PST
by
Dane
To: shortstop; Sabretooth; SJackson; Dubya; MeeknMing; JohnHuang2; Jim Robinson
"What are the details? We wont learn until today. But it is expected that a new adjusted work status will be announced for most of the eight million Mexicans currently in this country illegally. Also, lifetime Social Security benefits will be guaranteed illegal Mexican aliens even after they leave the United States if they pay Social Security tax for as little as 18 months. Michael Savage last night on Bill OReilly was claiming you can't just count the ten or so million being granted amnesty today.
He said you need to consider the other tens of millions connected with the ones recieving amnesty today to really understand the picture.
In other words, grant amnesty to ten million on 7 January, 2004 is in reality granting amnesty to them, their wives, children, parents, grantparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, neices and nephews.
No biggie.
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posted on
01/07/2004 6:28:22 AM PST
by
Happy2BMe
(2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
To: shortstop
Defund the Elephant, Bump.
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posted on
01/07/2004 6:28:31 AM PST
by
Uncle Miltie
(Mullahs swinging from lamp posts....)
To: Dante3
While our men and women die in Iraq, this administration wants to give amnesty to illegal aliens, the greatest danger to our national security. This smacks of treason Please show me where what Bush is proposing is "amnesty". You can't.
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posted on
01/07/2004 6:28:53 AM PST
by
Dane
To: MEGoody
"My proposals will cost money and require an expansion of the federal government in certain areas." Then the self-proclaimed 'real conservatives' will never support it.
Oh, you're a hoot.
Seeing that one of the few real and constitutional duties of the federal government IS to defend and protect the borders of this country, I'd think %100 of real conservatives would overwhelmingly support it thankyouverymuch.
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posted on
01/07/2004 6:30:36 AM PST
by
BureaucratusMaximus
(if we're not going to act like a constitutional republic...lets be the best empire we can be...)
To: pcx99
And, in addition to your points, the $billions that may flow to Mexico don't stay in Mexico.
Mexicans perform jobs Americans are too proud to do, it seems.
Immigrants are a plus, not a minus (the founder of Intel is not a native American). Conservatives need to put away images of scorn which border on stereotyping bigotry, and embrace positive aspects of this policy.
The fastest way to make new Republicans is to make people prosperous. Don't help DemocRats radicalize components of the citizenry to enslave them (and so, us) in a cycle of false governmental largesse. That cycle requires a perpetual base of left-leaning citizens to ensure perpetuation of the enslavement. Look at the black vote: a solid block of DemcRat supporters, always stuck at the bottom of socioeconomic ladder.
Comprimise is required here. Don't despise: embrace. Elections are won at the center; don't let a pseudocentrist win (Dean) by espousing what seems to be bigotry.
To: Dane
This is going to be a fun day.
To: kegler4
Further proof that Bush, much like Clinton, will stop at absolutely nothing in his drive to get re-elected Actually he is trying to solve a problem. How are you going to deport 8 million people? One country in modern times did that, nazi germany. I am surmising that is your model.
Count me out.
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posted on
01/07/2004 6:31:14 AM PST
by
Dane
To: MEGoody
I answered you in a previous thread. Perhaps you should refresh your browser before asking the same question again and again.
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posted on
01/07/2004 6:32:23 AM PST
by
KantianBurke
(Don't Tread on Me)
To: steve50
I'm with you, I would like to start a website and wonder if anyone else would be interested. Something like www.conservativesagainstbush.com - I am also a true conservative and believe that Bush Jr. is taking the same playbook as Bush Sr. and dictating his elitist attitude. I feel that republicans and conservatives are better off electing a democrat for president than a RINO. Lets face it, Bush has limited our speech, supportted affirmative action thus racism, raised spending to an all time high, and now wants to reward lawbreakers for entering this country illegally.
If there is anyone who would like to help me start this website please respond here or send me an email. Bush can not count on our vote just becuase he has an R behind his name. Thanks
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posted on
01/07/2004 6:32:24 AM PST
by
sasafras
(sasafras (The road to hell is paved with good intentions))
To: Dane; apillar
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The last Republican to serve in the White House was this man . .
(Unfortunately, the U.S.A. is unable or unwilling to produce another leader such as Ronald Reagan.)
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This idea that government was beholden to the people, that it had no other source of power is still the newest, most unique idea in all the long history of man's relation to man. This is the issue of this election: Whether we believe in our capacity for self-government or whether we abandon the American Revolution and confess that a little intellectual elite in a far-distant capital can plan our lives for us better than we can plan them ourselves." -- Ronald Reagan's Speech at the 1964 National Convention: A Time for Choosing
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posted on
01/07/2004 6:32:35 AM PST
by
Happy2BMe
(2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
To: Dane
Actually he is trying to solve a problem. How are you going to deport 8 million people? One country in modern times did that, nazi germany. I am surmising that is your model. *yawn*
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posted on
01/07/2004 6:32:39 AM PST
by
BureaucratusMaximus
(if we're not going to act like a constitutional republic...lets be the best empire we can be...)
To: shortstop
we didnt really get this go round but hope to get in the next.Lemme get out my magic 8-ball and see what it says....
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posted on
01/07/2004 6:32:50 AM PST
by
TomServo
("She wouldn't have me on a silver platter." "How about on an air mattress slathered with butter?")
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