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Virtually silent on the immigration issue for two years, Bush was working today on remarks he will make about immigration on Wednesday afternoon at the White House

We need to watch this

There are an estimated 10 million undocumented workers in the United States, as many as half of them from Mexico

Here take my job and put it where...

1 posted on 01/06/2004 6:56:27 PM PST by JustPiper
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2 posted on 01/06/2004 6:57:01 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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3 posted on 01/06/2004 6:58:29 PM PST by Support Free Republic (Happy New Year)
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To: JustPiper
If their lifestyle was equal to ours, I could see where competition would come into play.

As it stands, no one is willing to call a spade a spade by discussing how much money is being sent to Mexico, how many American tax dollars are being misdirected into social programs, etc.
4 posted on 01/06/2004 7:05:13 PM PST by baltodog
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To: JustPiper
President Bush is proposing to let foreign workers who have U.S. jobs waiting for them enter America.

Bush acts like the foreign workers aren't already here. :^)

5 posted on 01/06/2004 7:06:57 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: JustPiper
Good idea by GWB. Should be even more expansive though.
6 posted on 01/06/2004 7:13:25 PM PST by Texas_Dawg (Go, Dean, Go.)
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To: JustPiper
The title should be "Come one, come all, American jobs up for grabs". Bush is more worried about employing Mexicans than employing out of work Americans. Soon we'll all be working for minimum wage like illegals do.
7 posted on 01/06/2004 7:19:13 PM PST by janetgreen (TANCREDO FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: JustPiper
Is something going on with immigration?
8 posted on 01/06/2004 7:19:25 PM PST by Huck (This space available--monthly rates---great exposure)
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"Virtually silent on the immigration issue for two years"...

Lemme see: what was it happened two years ago?

Ah yes: THREE THOUSAND LIVES lost thanks in large part to deliberate failure to enforce immigration laws on the books.

Now Bush is going to "formalize" the contempt his Administration and others have had for enforcing the immigration laws of the United States enacted by the freely elected representatives of the citizens thereof.

If Bush puts forth this insult to American sovereignty, to American laws, to American citizenship, to American taxpayers, then he's as big and even bigger of a traitor in my mind than Clinton. And I'm truly, truly sorry I voted for him.

Bring 'em up, GW. You're gonna need those Mexican votes to replace mine, and a lot of others.

11 posted on 01/06/2004 7:26:33 PM PST by Map Kernow ("I hold that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: JustPiper
Illegal aliens spreading out throughout Americas heartland...from China and Brazil, Venezuala, Cuba,Mexico, Afghanistan, Pakistan...you name it...
The illegals are also bringing Mexican 'red' methamphetamine with them...and are responsible for its spread among Americas kids in the midwest...
They are a natural distribution network hard to trace or catch for the cartels...deport them and presto they are back next year...new papers..no problemo
We need to recall our troops from EU and secure our own borders...
12 posted on 01/06/2004 7:27:15 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: JustPiper
More like "ERASE" Immigration Laws!
13 posted on 01/06/2004 7:28:02 PM PST by winker
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This is precisely what the Left was looking for -- a reason for the base to abandon Bush. And Bush and Rove gave it to them like a gift. The level of political ignorance in that White House is staggering. And what they are doing brings nothing but disunity and chaos to the country. Unfettered immigration without assimilation is a prescription for disaster.
26 posted on 01/06/2004 7:44:36 PM PST by faithincowboys ( Zell Miller is the only DC Democrat not committing treason.)
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Is the government soft on Mexico because Mexico sells us oil? Is that it?
28 posted on 01/06/2004 7:44:41 PM PST by Age of Reason
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Are the invaders planning to learn English or are we going to have to learn Spanish in this place that is no longer a country but a conglomeration of business interests. It is also the policemen of the world.
83 posted on 01/06/2004 9:24:13 PM PST by Trytophan Man (Merry Christmas!)
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LET'S ROLL FREEPERS!!! I've been busy emailing, phoning and faxing everyone I can think of to protest this nonsense! PUT A STOP TO IT NOW OR WE CAN KISS THIS NATION GOODBYE...LITERALLY.

It's NOT a migration, it's an invasion!
Don't let them get away with this! SCREAM! Call toll free:

Whitehouse: 202-456-1414

Comment Line: 202-456-6213 and 202-456-1111

House and Senate: 1-800-648-3516

Rep. Nat'l Committee" 202-863-8500 (not toll free)

Senate: http://www.senate.gov/

Congress: http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.html

Department of Homeland Defense: http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/contactus

Department of Justice/John Ashcroft AskDOJ@usdoj.gov 202-353-1555

President Bush's Campaign BushCheney04@GeorgeWBush.com 703.647.2700

Republican National Committee info@rnc.org 202.863.8500




Talking points:

Measuring the Fallout (Cost of the 1986 amnesty after ten years) Center for Immigration Studies May 1997 David Simcox



Summary

The federal government began legalizing almost three million illegal aliens 10 years ago, on May 5, 1987, wary of the fiscal liabilities of opening more public assistance programs to a population with high needs and low taxpaying power.

To ease the burden on the states, Washington closed some programs to the newly legalized for five years and reimbursed the states nearly $3.5 billion for some of their aid costs.

Was the concern of Congress, the White House, and many state and local leaders justified? A review of the evidence a decade later confirms that legalization indeed carried a high fiscal price tag — a total 10-year cost of $78.7 billion — with the indirect and downstream costs still accumulating. In the ten-year period ending in 1996, the amnestied population:

Accounted for an estimated $102.1 billion costs in current dollars in twenty federal, state, and local assistance programs and services.


Paid total taxes of $78 billion, for a ten-year fiscal deficit of $24 billion in the public assistance and services portion of the budget.

These are estimates of the direct costs only. There were, and will continue to be, significant indirect costs associated with the legalization of 2.7 million persons:

Job Displacement: About 1.66 million legalized workers, 70 percent of them unskilled, displaced an average of 187,000 citizen and settled immigrant workers from jobs each year. Costs of public assistance to those displaced totaled $9.9 billion for the decade.


Citizen Children: Women in the legalized population had an estimated 1.25 million U.S. citizen children between 1970 and 1996. Public education and three major public assistance programs to citizen children 18 and under amounted to $36.1 billion in the decade since amnesty.


School Costs of Undocumented Children: Remaining in the households of legalized population, or joining them subsequently were some 400,000 illegal immigrants by 1996, up from 177,000 in 1987. Costs of providing public schooling for them was $8.56 billion.


Five-Year Prospective Education Costs: Public education costs for U.S. citizen children of legalized aliens are projected to claim an additional $29.4 billion in the five years from 1997 to 2001, mostly from state and local budgets.


Total direct and associated indirect costs of the legalized population after taxes reached $78.7 billion in current dollars for the decade.

Large numbers of the legalized began to naturalize starting in 1995. According to the U.S. commission on Immigration Reform, 1.4 million spouses, children, and parents of amnestied aliens now on immigration waiting lists, will gain immediate entry as relatives of citizens. The costs of public education for the young people of this population and medical care and income support for the 900,000 aging parents is expected to be formidable.

164 posted on 01/07/2004 12:16:11 AM PST by ETERNAL WARMING
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Let's get it over with and just cede California back to Mexico.


BUMP

207 posted on 01/07/2004 3:02:02 AM PST by tm22721 (May the UN rest in peace)
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Once I built a railroad, made it run Made it race against time Once I built a rairoad, now it’s done Brother can you spare a dime? Once I built a tower to the sun Brick and rivet and lime Once I built a tower, now it’s done Brother can you spare a dime? Once in khaki suits Gee, we looked swell Full of that yankee doodle de dum Half a million boots went slogging through hell I was the kid with the drum Say don’t you remember, they called me al It was al all the time Say don’t you remember, I’m your pal! Buddy can you spare a dime? Once I built a railroad, made it run Made it race against time Once I built a rairoad, now it’s done Brother can you spare a dime? Once I built a tower to the sun Brick and rivet and lime Once I built a tower, now it’s done Brother can you spare a dime? Once in khaki suits Gee, we looked swell Full of that yankee doodle de dum Half a million boots went slogging through hell I was the kid with the drum Say don’t you remember, they called me al It was al all the time Say don’t you remember, I’m your pal! Buddy can you spare a dime?
226 posted on 01/07/2004 4:38:21 AM PST by from this machine (SAY NO TO BUSH)
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undocumented workers

I keep seeing that phrase. What the heck does it mean? Isn't "illegal immigrant" a more direct and more accurate and more honest description? "Undocumented workers"? Huh? What? Come on....

If people tolerate that phrase, we're in a heap of trouble....

Well, this whole illegal alien thing has me placing more of my trust in God, less in those who represent me in government....

237 posted on 01/07/2004 5:38:30 AM PST by Theo
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Please we need our own gifs made from this for our CamPain Grassroot movement!

CL? What does this say? Anyone speak Latin?

Ok these are for Bush, we need modifications and Freeper imagination to express what we feel about what he did today!!!

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286 posted on 01/07/2004 2:55:08 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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Please vote right here at FR:

After hearing President Bush's speech, do you approve of his immigration reform plan? Yes - 68 votes - 22%

No - 200 votes - 65%

Undecided - 36 votes - 11%

VOTE NOW

287 posted on 01/07/2004 2:58:25 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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I've been told GWB's nickname @ the Skull and Bones Org. is
"TEMPORARY". Well he surely lived up to it today. Like his dad, who gave up Clinton. He'll give us DEAN! GOD help us!

310 posted on 01/07/2004 9:17:19 PM PST by from this machine (SAY NO TO BUSH)
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