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Hannity calls any immigration policy change "asinine"
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Posted on 01/06/2004 12:25:21 PM PST by putupon
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Sean Hannity just used the word "asinine" in regards to any immigration change until we gain control of the current immigration situation.
TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; biggovernment; borders; criminals; foreignoccupation; illegalaliens; illegalmexiacans; illegalmexicans; immigrantillegal; immigrantlist; invasion; mexico; nationalsuicide; openborders; thenannystate; welfarestate; wetbacks
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To: alisasny
81
posted on
01/06/2004 6:50:54 PM PST
by
The_Eaglet
(Conservative chat on IRC: http://searchirc.com/search.php?F=exact&T=chan&N=33&I=conservative)
To: Aetius
My view on race guided by Antonin Scalia's concurring opinion in Adarand v. Pena: "In the eyes of government, we are just one race here. It is American." I don't think that prospective American should be judged on the basis of race either.
To be blunt, the failure of the immgration restrictionist crowd to police its own ranks makes me think that there is no problem among that crowd with bigotry that Mr. Francis and VDARE engage in. I find that unacceptable.
82
posted on
01/06/2004 6:57:18 PM PST
by
hchutch
(Why did the Nazgul run from Arwen's flash flood? All they managed to do was to end up dying tired.)
To: XRdsRev
Find a way? Isn't tax evasion a crime in the states???
To: You Dirty Rats
Good sense. Do people really think we are suddenly going to deport thousands of these aliens that have been here for years? Now I don't see any reason they should be on our SS system though. Seems to me SS should not be withheld for noncitizens. And temporary work programs should be possible with a way of tracking and enforcing length of stay.
84
posted on
01/06/2004 7:10:00 PM PST
by
Hattie
To: Dave S
Wouldn't it be more effecient to just fly straight to the US?
Incidentily, you will be glad to know that I have been stopped by the INS twice! The first time they (temporary) thwarted and evil plot on my part to help fix the delapidated freeway system in California. After I moved back, I went back for a weekend to hang out with a bud. Got to spend half an hour with 'em again while they made sure I wasn't up to my old highway designing highjinks, all of which are legal. The only other person I have ever heard of is the Canadian wife of my American bud, they got to spend lot's of legal money to get the paperwork through so that she could get her work visa. I could see the dilemma though, although she is now working as a much in demand teacher in California, probably would have been best to see if she spoke spanish first, as that would be most useful for communicated to the kids filling up the schools. That INS, man, their something....
To: Huck
Anyway, I just don't have much respect at all for Hannity as a thinker. Come to think of it, I have none Hannity thinks? When did he acquire this new skill? I must have missed it.
86
posted on
01/06/2004 8:17:41 PM PST
by
montag813
(<br>Fire Tenet...Jail Novak...Rally 'Round Our President, Dammit!!!)
To: Huck; hchutch; holdonnow
"Hannity calls any immigration policy change "asinine"So, I guess Mr. Hannity would rather hold the status quo.
Take no steps, make no changes, try no solutions.
Good conservative stance.
87
posted on
01/06/2004 8:34:44 PM PST
by
Luis Gonzalez
(The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
To: holdonnow
So, are you saying that we do not enforce current immigration laws in this country?
88
posted on
01/06/2004 8:38:35 PM PST
by
Luis Gonzalez
(The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
To: putupon
Asinine, insane--call it what you will, but in the long run it just isn't right to grant these people amnesty when they care not a whit about this countrys laws.
89
posted on
01/06/2004 8:44:05 PM PST
by
freeangel
(freeangel)
To: nutmeg
Thanks for the ping!
To: Luis Gonzalez; putupon
My understanding is that Hannity is for the legal status quo but against the "status quo" of the lack of enforcement, favoring more enforcement of existing laws. Am I reading him correctly?
91
posted on
01/06/2004 10:06:41 PM PST
by
The_Eaglet
(Conservative chat on IRC: http://searchirc.com/search.php?F=exact&T=chan&N=33&I=conservative)
To: The_Eaglet
In fiscal 2003, we apprehended (and turned back) nearly one million people at our SW border. There were also nearly a million voluntary returns by people apprehended by the INS.
Saying that we have "open borders", or that we do not enforce immigration laws because there are still people getting in illegally, is like saying that we do not enforce laws against murder or robbery because there are still murders and robberies going on daily.
92
posted on
01/06/2004 10:10:24 PM PST
by
Luis Gonzalez
(The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
To: gubamyster
bttt
93
posted on
01/07/2004 12:58:31 AM PST
by
lainde
(Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
To: nutmeg
bttt
94
posted on
01/07/2004 1:02:50 AM PST
by
lainde
(Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
To: The_Eaglet
That's pretty much the way I got it. Enforce laws now before any liberalization of the immigration laws.
95
posted on
01/07/2004 2:51:38 AM PST
by
putupon
(How many illegals who recieved amnesty from Ronald Reagan voted for either Bush?)
To: Hattie
If it was decided that noncitizens should be excluded from SS, that's another option. In that case, however, it would mean that a noncitizen would be even cheaper for an employer than a citizen, since the employer would avoid their share of SS tax on a noncitizen.
If they pay into SS, then they are certainly entitled to benefits.
To: hchutch
Of course the problem is the welfare State, but we'd rather point to the symptoms of the disease and call them the cause, than address the actual disease itself.
97
posted on
01/07/2004 6:17:38 AM PST
by
Luis Gonzalez
(The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
To: hchutch; RedBloodedAmerican; William Wallace; sinkspur; Howlin; CWOJackson
ROTFLMAO!!!
I was just slumming over at LP, and the paranoia is unbelievable!
Not only is every new LePer suspected of being me if they don 't tow the "hate FR" line, but Neil, the moderator for that paragon of First Amendment rights known as "Liberty Post", is banning accounts for the crime of "suspicion of being Luis".
This is really great!!!!
Hey Freddy!!
"Then Ill be aroun in the dark. Ill be everwhere - wherever you look. Wherever theys a fight so hungry people can eat, Ill be there. Wherever theys a cop beatin up a guy, Ill be there. If Casy knowed, why, Ill be in the way guys yell when theyre mad an - Ill be in the way kids laugh when theyre hungry an they know suppers ready. An when our folks eat the stuff they raise an live in the houses they build - why, Ill be there. See?" -- Steinbeck
98
posted on
01/07/2004 7:28:44 AM PST
by
Luis Gonzalez
(The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
To: Luis Gonzalez
LP's funny.
I went over there the other day, and it looks like half the inmates are supporting Howard Dean.
And everybody's PISSED to the gills! Lots and lots of angry posters!
Ugly stuff too. Now I know where all the anti-semites went.
99
posted on
01/07/2004 7:38:47 AM PST
by
sinkspur
(Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
To: ronthecivil
"Find a way? Isn't tax evasion a crime in the states???"
Yes indeed it is. I don't know why these employers are not prosecuted. Everyone knows this scam goes on. It is common knowledge and there is basically no fear of prosecution.
I ask myself why there isn't a tax officer assigned to every established "day worker pick up area" to check the tax info on potential employers and potential employees. They send tax officers around to flea markets and antique shows to check that vendors have their paperwork and are actively collecting a few measly bucks of sales tax but you'll never see one at any of these day worker pick up areas. Makes you wonder what the heck is going on.
100
posted on
01/07/2004 7:58:36 AM PST
by
XRdsRev
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