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MoveOn denounces GOP "smear"
MoveOn.org | 1/6/2003 | Eli Pariser

Posted on 01/06/2004 11:11:17 AM PST by ArcLight

Dear MoveOn member, As the New Year begins, we'd rather be talking about positive things, and there are plenty of good things happening. But MoveOn.org has come under attack from the Republican National Committee (RNC), which has launched a campaign of malicious misinformation to divert attention from the creativity and power of the Bush in 30 Seconds contest. We need your help to make sure the media don't fall for it.

RNC Chairman Ed Gillespie launched the attack on "Fox News Sunday," and the RNC followed it with press releases and calls to reporters. The charges centered on two ads posted on the Bush in 30 Seconds website which compared President Bush's tactis with those of Adolf Hitler. Mr. Gillespie repeatedly referred to the ads as 'the MoveOn ad' or 'MoveOn's ad,' implying that we had sponsored or perhaps even commissioned the ad. And he also claimed that we might spend $7 million to run it on TV.

This is a lie. MoveOn.org hasn't sponsored such an ad, and we never would -- we regret the appearance of these ads on the Bush In 30 Seconds site. The two ads in question are from more than a thousand posted by members of the public, and they were voted on by MoveOn members through December 31st. Obviously the few hundred of you who viewed these ads agreed that they were not worthy of further broadcast or recognition, because they got low ratings. Yesterday we announced the 15 finalists -- all good, hard-hitting and fair appraisals of the Bush record, in the judgment of the members and others who rated them. The two offending ads can only be found one place now -- on the RNC website!

When we've explained this to journalists, most have understood that this is a game of gotcha politics, not news. But even our statement for the press below, which goes through the entire process in detail, hasn't stopped the right wing from working this angle as hard as they can.

That's why we're asking you to please watch for stories on this as they appear, and let us know. Call the news outlet yourself and give them hell for falling victim to such political baloney. I've attached our statement, which fully explains the situation, below. Then please let us know so we can contact the outlets directly.

You can help us track inaccurate reporting on this story at: http://moveon.org/smear/?id=2234-398683-BhZHt_KT6kuS2Drs3SNhFA

Second, we need you to get the press back on the right track. After you've corrected the negative accounts, write an upbeat letter to your local paper about the exciting and positive aspects of the contest and the finalists. These ads reflect the courage, hope, and deep patriotism of our membership. They're creative, passionate, and totally unlike most of the political ads that are out there. And perhaps most importantly, they were picked in a democratic way. Now that's a story.

The finalists are online at: http://www.bushin30seconds.org/

By sharing that URL with your friends, family, and colleagues, you can help to make sure that the RNC isn't successful in stealing our finalists' glory.

Not only is the RNC campaign deceptive, it's also totally disingenuous. Yesterday, the New York Post ran a long opinion column focusing exclusively on how much Presidential Candidate Howard Dean resembles Hitler, even calling him "Herr Howie." Of course, the RNC hasn't issued a condemnation of that. When close RNC ally Grover Norquist repeatedly compared taxing the wealthy with the Holocaust in an interview on NPR, the RNC was muted. And in 2002, the RNC and its allies were silent when supporters of President Bush actually aired TV ads morphing the face of Senator Max Cleland, a triple amputee as a result of wounds sustained in Vietnam, into Osama bin Laden. Given such a transparently partisan track record, the RNC's moral outrage doesn't mean a whole lot.

Obviously, MoveOn.org and its 1.7 million members are now on the right-wing radar. They are going to do everything they can do to silence us, and we simply won't let it happen. Smear tactics and campaigns of misinformation have no place in American democracy.

Sincerely, --Adam, Carrie, Eli, James, Joan, Noah, Peter, Wes, and Zack The MoveOn.org Team January 6th, 2003

P.S. Here's the statement we released to the press yesterday, which explains the whole situation.

ADS ATTACKED BY RNC CHAIRMAN ARE NOT MOVEON.ORG VOTER FUND ADS MoveOn.org Voter Fund Regrets Screening Process Allowed Ads to Slip Through Statement by Wes Boyd, Founder of MoveOn.org Voter Fund:

The Republican National Committee and its chairman have falsely accused MoveOn.org of sponsoring ads on its website which compare President Bush to Adolf Hitler. The claim is deliberately and maliciously misleading.

During December the MoveOn.org Voter Fund invited members of the public to submit ads that purported to tell the truth about the President and his policies. More than 1,500 submissions from ordinary Americans came in and were posted on a web site, bushin30seconds.org, for the public to review.

None of these was our ad, nor did their appearance constitute endorsement or sponsorship by MoveOn.org Voter Fund. They will not appear on TV. We do not support the sentiment expressed in the two Hitler submissions. They were voted down by our members and the public, who reviewed the ads and submitted nearly 3 million critiques in the process of choosing the 15 finalist entries.

We agree that the two ads in question were in poor taste and deeply regret that they slipped through our screening process. In the future, if we publish or broadcast raw material, we will create a more effective filtering system.

Contrast this with the behavior of the RNC and its allies when supporters of President Bush used TV ads morphing the face of Sen. Max Cleland (D-GA) into that of Osama Bin Laden during the 2002 Senate race.

MoveOn.org and the MoveOn.org Voter Fund exist to bring the public into the political process and produce a more fact-based election process. We regret that the RNC doesn't seem to embrace the same goals.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; 2004election; ads; antiamerican; antibush; bushbashing; bushisnothitler; clintoncronies; denial; election2004; hategroup; hitlerad; hitlerads; morondotorg; morons; moveon; moveondotorg; partisanpac; socialists; wackos
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To: Grampa Dave
Those days are coming to an end.

The refrain of Hillary, Kerry, et al, that "The height of Patriotism is criticism, aiding and abetting the enemy, committing the first cousin of Treason", ain't gonna fly with regular America, and their is way more of us, than them.

You nailed it.

81 posted on 01/06/2004 1:58:02 PM PST by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Agreed. If anything, the lack of decency and patriotism is going to do the Dems in big time. Might not be as bad a blowout as McGovern's or Mondale's, but I do think the Dems are going to lose, and this will be despite the current disagreements on our side over some small items in the big scheme of things.
82 posted on 01/06/2004 2:14:46 PM PST by hchutch (Why did the Nazgul run from Arwen's flash flood? All they managed to do was to end up dying tired.)
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To: ArcLight
"When we've explained this to journalists, most have understood that this is a game of gotcha politics"

MoveOn's just mad because they got caught.

83 posted on 01/06/2004 2:17:33 PM PST by MEGoody
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To: ArcLight
Weasles.
84 posted on 01/06/2004 2:19:08 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
That comment might be viewed as an insult to the predatory mammal.

;)
85 posted on 01/06/2004 2:20:42 PM PST by hchutch (Why did the Nazgul run from Arwen's flash flood? All they managed to do was to end up dying tired.)
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To: ArcLight
we regret the appearance of these ads on the Bush In 30 Seconds site.

"Furthermore, we thought we had better control by hiring former White House staffer and bouncer craig livingtone as the contest's supervisor. Accidents do happen, why once when craig was at the white house, 1000 FBI files grew tiny little legs and walked from the FBI to the white house basement..so please..do understand, these mistakes happen"

86 posted on 01/06/2004 2:22:32 PM PST by BerniesFriend
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To: highlander_UW
They "regret" that the ads were posted, but they've been on the site long enough to garner a "low rating" in an ongoing voting process?

MoveOn should change its name to ComeOnGiveMeABreak.
87 posted on 01/06/2004 2:42:11 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: ArcLight

Could we submit a Bush is great ad ? Would it remain unaltered ?
88 posted on 01/06/2004 2:51:16 PM PST by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: ArcLight
What's the big deal. We all know that moveon geeks stink.
89 posted on 01/06/2004 2:53:28 PM PST by jetson
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To: Tall_Texan
"If some automated script allowed people to put up ads on their site without MoveOn.org screening them, I would agree they should not be blamed."

MoveOn is the proprietor of the site. If Wes, Zack, Eli, Noah, Amy, etc. don't have enough sense to control the content then they are too damn dumb to play hardball.

They think they are real movers and shakers; they make the mountains tremble from Berkeley, CA. They got caught being dumb and playing to the rubes. Good.

See ya, MoveOn. Too bad you weren't as smart as you thought you were.

90 posted on 01/06/2004 2:54:51 PM PST by telebob
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To: AndyTheBear
The ad was originally finalist number 3 out of 15. Not sure how many were submitted.

The current 15 are at their website.
91 posted on 01/06/2004 3:27:13 PM PST by bootyist-monk (5, 4, 3, 2, 1! Thunderbirds are go!)
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To: glannon
Bogus argument.

The MoveOn.org group asked for 30-second spot advertisements to be submitted. Just because they were submitted by members of the general public did not automatically cause them to be 'magically' placed as a streaming multimedia file on the MoveOn.org Internet server. The MoveOn.org organization had to CAUSE those submissions to be made publicly available for their "members" to vote on and decide. That means that they 'approved' of the content and format of the two 'Hitler/Bush' ads enough to place them on THEIR website for viewing/voting.

Imagine if the RNC hosted a contest for ads against the Democrats and one was submitted graphically depicting Democrats holding Blacks in servitude/chains on the 'liberal plantation'. If the RNC said that they were looking for ads to put on TV, but that these ads were in NO WAY endorsed or approved by the RNC but were merely available for Republican Party members to vote on, do you think that any 'mainstream' news organization would report that view with a straight face. Would the RNC explanation of the failure of their 'screening process' on such ads submissions stand up to the resulting media outrage?? I think not...

It's sort of like the Howard Dean's 'interesting theory' about Bush and his possible foreknowledge of 9/11 spouted on the NPR Diane Rheams show. Just a way to inject the subject/spin you desire with the cover of being able to deny any association or endorsement of said view. Imagine going on a cable-TV show on a political analysis segment (such as Hardball, Hannity&Colmes, etc) and let slip the statement that you found intriging the story that Howard Deans butt-f*cks goats in his spare time as a depraved devil-worshipper... When confronted by other panelists after they recover from their on-air fainting spell you innocently claim that, of course you in NO way endorse or even believe such a thing about Howard Dean, (who probably likes goats but not in that way) but simply mentioned it as an 'intriguing' theory that is 'out there' among the public discourse.

Just harmless speculation, right???


dvwjr
92 posted on 01/06/2004 3:47:43 PM PST by dvwjr
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To: glannon
Please provide supporting data. How exactly do you know that the ads were rejected? By what margin? Please don't quote the MoveOn "excuse".

These people are evil. Do not make excuses for them. Do not give them the benefit of the doubt. Like all weak con artists that is how they will take advantage of you.

These ads did accurately represent the thoughts and feelings of many of their members. They also relected the level of judgement and maturity of their members and contributors. Someone was bucking to be noticed by George Soros, who previously had commented that the current US administration reminded him of pre WWII Germany.

Accept them for who they are. Evil does exist.
93 posted on 01/06/2004 4:10:08 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ("were it not for the brave , there would be no land of the free")
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To: ArcLight
Anyone interested in my new Clinton as the Marquis d' Sade 30 second video?? My new Dean as Pol Pot election spot??
My Hillary as Medusa spot???
94 posted on 01/06/2004 4:24:34 PM PST by Doc Savage
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To: ArcLight
Obviously the few hundred of you who viewed these ads agreed that they were not worthy of further broadcast or recognition, because they got low ratings.

He's lying. It's all in the file names on the finalist page. They are numbered chronologically, starting with number 1. The number 2 is conspicuously missing and the Hitler ad was number 2 (I have it saved to disk). The Hitler ad was a finalist until it got pulled.

If someone were to ask Moveon to explain why the finalist page files are named the way they are, they'd be screwed.

95 posted on 01/06/2004 6:02:30 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: mvpel
They "regret" that the ads were posted, but they've been on the site long enough to garner a "low rating" in an ongoing voting process?

It's just Orwellian LeftSpeak that means "we're sorry we're getting push back on something we truly value, we suppose we better deny, deny, deny.

96 posted on 01/06/2004 7:49:56 PM PST by highlander_UW
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To: MattAMiller
In all fairness the ads weren't posted by MoveOn, they were entered into a contest MoveOn sponsored. Which isn't to say that they aren't a bunch of raving left-wing lunatics, they are. But the RNC is spinning this particular issue.

Correction. Unless you believe that every one of the thousands of videos they received were posted on-line, then someone applied a decision making process that allowed these 2 to be posted on-line. The RNC is pointing out what the left obviously posted intentionally. It is not "spin" to point out that the left believes slander is valid political discourse.

97 posted on 01/06/2004 7:54:58 PM PST by highlander_UW
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To: ArcLight
So, MoveOn is saying that they didn't screen these commercials before posting them? C'mon, they had to have screened them, if only to keep out some subversive ad from an enterprising freeper from getting through!
98 posted on 01/06/2004 8:04:43 PM PST by NYCVirago
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