[Coleus]

I guess they had their donuts after their castles?

Lots of issues here: 2nd Amendment rights-Mrs. White as well as all Americans should have been allowed to own and carry a handgun to protect and defend herself and instead a judge issued a piece of paper (restraining order) to protect her which led to her murder.

911 dispatchers--seems they didn't do their job that effectively and there are communication breakdowns in other cities: last year 4 NYC teens died in a dingy which was taking on water and the dispatchers never notified the harbor patrol.

Police--I didn't see the results of the investigation but if the story is true that the police were at White Castle eating "agita burgers" instead of answering 3, 911 calls in a span of 17 minutes then they should be in jail.

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[Coleus]

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[mvpel]

Police--I didn't see the results of the investigation but if the story is true that the police were at White Castle eating "agita burgers" instead of answering 3, 911 calls in a span of 17 minutes then they should be in jail.

They should be, but they won't be - under the law in most states the police have no legal duty to provide protection to any particular individual under most circumstances. See the book Dial 911 And Die for specific legal references.

[First_Salute]

Bump.

[AdamSelene235]

Victim: Deprived of the most basic human right of self defense.

Perp: Armed anyway

Cops: Indifferent or actively destroying the Constitution under color of authority.

Nice, real nice.

[stlnative]

Where I come from they are not called Sliders, they are called Belly Bombers (in the St. Louis Area)

[dead]

The cops can make a reasonable claim that the stop was necessary if they were drunk.

Nobody can drive by a White Castle drunk.

[Tacis]

In general, you can bet a guy is dirty when the first person to speak on his behalf is the president of his union.

[Maceman]

[joesnuffy]

They should computer chip the cops...keep a GPS record of their stops...as well as their squads computer...recording their stops and locations...time between calls...time to get to the scene
etc..

Then discipline accordingly...if anyone should be under the watchfull eye of the satelitte or computer it should be "public servants"
Accountability...to the public..who pays their wages...

[Donna Lee Nardo]

This is one horrendous story. All negligent officers involved in this should be fired and jailed. My prayers for the victim and her Mom and other family members and friends.

[Rollee]

Thank you for posting this information. Unfortunately, there are thousands of cases like this in Chicago/Cook County.

I was told this weekend by several members of CPD (at a party) that "we have no problem with you carrying, but we don't want the blacks carrying". I asked what is the difference between me, a white 40-something woman, homeowner, wants to protect family & property, law abiding citizen and a black 40-something woman, homeowner, wants to protect family & property, also a law abiding citizen?

I did't get an answer other than "well, you know" and a change of subject.

Carrying is a hot button issue with all of us Freepers in the People's Republic of Illinois. I don't know how to ping by state, otherwise I would.

[Myrddin]

The police have no duty to protect you.

Read "Dial 911 and Die" for a detailed state by state assessment. There is no valid case against the police officers.

[FITZ]

It seems instead of protective order where she believed the police could be depended on to save her life, she should have gotten a gun for her protection --- and used it when he came into the house.

[PAR35]

I'm not as willing as NBC to accept allegations by a plaintiff's attorney as fact. It may be true, it may just be an effort to sway public opinion prior to a jury trial.

[Coleus]

Exercising the Right, to KEEP and BEAR Arms

[Richard Kimball]

The individual officers are to blame, but the department system is also a significant problem. If you read the old Wambaugh book, The Blue Knight, you'll see a lot of the attitude that prevails. Police don't like to be on a leash. Many also believe that you don't nail the bad guys by responding to calls, but by nosing around looking for stuff. If departmental policies aren't strict, they will not notify dispatch of their location, arrival times, etc. At the fire station where I worked, I saw on several occasions officers report responding on their hand-helds and then finish watching a series of downs on a football game. I've also seen them delay answering radio queries for available units to see if they could pass a call onto someone else. The subject call of this article is the classic try to dodge it call, a domestic dispute with estranged spouse. Most police departments have terrible systems for tracking personnel, and many police officers I've known have a serious "the rules apply to everybody but me" attitude. This means that in most departments, if you don't have a strict accountability system, including patrol routes, boundaries of patrol, response time parameters, etc, many officers will spend the shift doing whatever they feel like.

[Houmatt]

Iv'e said it once, I have said it 100 times:

Don't depend on the police! Buy a gun and learn how to use it! Refuse to become a statistic!

[walford]

If the White Castle 'sliders' are anything like the Little Tavern 'deathballs' that were available in the DC area back in the day, I could understand the cops' delay. They may not have stopped to eat on the way to the call. They may have already eaten and violated a Cardinal Rule when it comes to these little 'burgers.' NEVER EAT MORE THAN THREE.

[Viking2002]

Yuck. They blew off a 911 call to munch White Castle smegburgers? They opught to be charged with poor taste as well as negligence.