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Crews Find Egypt Plane Crash 'Black Box'
ABC News ^ | 01/06/04 | AP

Posted on 01/06/2004 10:11:31 AM PST by m1-lightning

SHARM EL-SHEIK, Egypt Jan. 6 — Searchers have located one of the "black box" flight data recorders from a crashed charter jet but it was too deep to be immediately retrieved, a French official said Tuesday. Rear Adm. Jacques Mazars told reporters at the popular resort that more advanced equipment was needed to retrieve the box, which was believed to be 1,970 to 2,620 feet below the sea's surface.

"What is important for us is to retrieve one of the boxes," he said.

A robot submarine sent by the French can operate no deeper than 1,320 feet. The seabed in the area drops at one point to about 3,300 feet.

The Flash Airlines plane an 11-year-old Boeing 737 crashed into the Red Sea shortly after takeoff Saturday, killing all 148 people aboard. Most victims were French tourists and France has sent in 500 personnel to help Egypt with search and recovery.

The crash coincided with heightened global concerns about terrorism in the skies, but Egypt quickly ruled out the possibility of an attack, calling the crash an accident caused by a mechanical failure.

Still, Egyptian officials acknowledged they did not know the nature of the mechanical problem, and they added that jet checked out fine before the flight.

The U.S. State Department said Monday that four people with dual U.S.-Egyptian citizenship were killed on the flight bound for Paris via Cairo. The U.S. Embassy in Cairo declined Tuesday to provide any names.

France's top aviation official said Monday night that while the crash appeared to be an accident, he couldn't rule out terrorism.

"We have no information concerning the cause of this accident, and until we have the flight recorder, we won't know," said Michel Wachenheim, head of France's Civil Aviation Authority. "We cannot exclude either an accident or a criminal cause."

Body parts recovered thus far have shown no burns, suggesting there was no explosion, French Deputy Foreign Minister Renaud Muselier said Monday.

Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak said Tuesday that he cannot "speculate about what happened on the plane that crashed."

"But I don't think it was a terrorist act because there's no possibility for that in Sharm el-Sheik or anywhere else in Egypt," Mubarak told reporters in the northern city of Alexandria.

"We have to wait until the black box is found to determine what went wrong and whether there was a problem with the plane," Mubarak added.

Since the jet was U.S.-made, the United States was sending a team of investigators, including experts from Boeing.

France has dispatched equipment including a military surveillance plane that has been looking for floating debris in a 1.6 square mile area. France also flew in forensics experts hoping to identify body parts through DNA testing.

Families of victims were to begin arriving Wednesday in Sharm el-Sheik, about 480 miles southeast of Cairo, for memorial services on land and sea. French Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin is also flying in for the ceremonies.

The aircraft was one of two Boeing 737s operated by Flash.

The Swiss Federal Office for Civil Aviation has disclosed that it detected safety problems with both airplanes and it has banned Flash from flying into Switzerland for more than a year.

The Flash chairman, Mohamed Nour, said his company made necessary improvements and later passed Swiss inspection but the Swiss denied this.

In 2003, Switzerland informed France of its concerns. French authorities carried out three checks and obtained satisfactory results, said French Transport Minister Gilles de Robien.

The Egyptian el-Sharq Insurance company, which covered Flash Airlines, said in a statement it intends to pay full compensation to victims' families but first must settle matters with re-insurers, according to a statement quoted by Egypt's Middle East News Agency. The company said each victim's family is entitled to $350,000.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blackbox; egypt; flashair; fsh604; planecrash
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1 posted on 01/06/2004 10:11:35 AM PST by m1-lightning
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I see the only hope for truth on this crash getting out to be the Boeing team, since they have a vested interest in making sure the aircraft itself isn't wrongly blamed . . . given that the Egyptian government says no terrorism is possible in Egypt (tell that to Anwar Sadat), the Egyptians certainly won't be interested in finding the "truth" . . .
2 posted on 01/06/2004 10:19:34 AM PST by LikeLight ( ___________________________________ it's a line)
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"The Egyptian el-Sharq Insurance company"

Something about this company's name fails to inspire my confidence.
4 posted on 01/06/2004 10:21:47 AM PST by DeepDish (I no longer capitalize french or france, only things proper or significant are capitalized.)
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A robot submarine sent by the French can operate no deeper than 1,320 feet. The seabed in the area drops at one point to about 3,300 feet.

Brilliant! Good planning Pierre!

5 posted on 01/06/2004 10:22:44 AM PST by trad_anglican
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To: LikeLight
...given that the Egyptian government says no terrorism is possible in Egypt

Obviously with this comment:
"Egypt quickly ruled out the possibility of an attack, calling the crash an accident caused by a mechanical failure."
if they already know what caused the crash before they even retrieved the black box then I'm a little suspicious if they are lying or if they knew the plane had mechanical problems before it took off.

6 posted on 01/06/2004 10:22:55 AM PST by m1-lightning (Weapons of deterrence do not deter terrorists; people of deterrence do.)
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"A robot submarine sent by the French can operate no deeper than 1,320 feet. The seabed in the area drops at one point to about 3,300 feet."

The short flight deck aircraft carrier and now this

7 posted on 01/06/2004 10:23:04 AM PST by spokeshave (TDIDS = The Dow is Driving Skyward = Tom Daschle is Deeply Saddened)
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"But I don't think it was a terrorist act because there's no possibility for that in Sharm el-Sheik or anywhere else in Egypt," Mubarak told reporters

Talk about creating suspicion!

8 posted on 01/06/2004 10:29:24 AM PST by Shermy
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To: LikeLight
Don't be surprised if the cause of the crash turns out to be fulminating jihadism.
9 posted on 01/06/2004 10:39:57 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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It was an old technology 737-300, not one of the Next Generation 737s, in case anyone was wondering.....
10 posted on 01/06/2004 10:47:42 AM PST by SW6906
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A robot submarine sent by the French can operate no deeper than 1,320 feet. The seabed in the area drops at one point to about 3,300 feet.

I guess we'll have to bail them out, again.

11 posted on 01/06/2004 11:25:36 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: m1-lightning
Wonder if there are any big cod in the area.
12 posted on 01/06/2004 11:31:13 AM PST by StriperSniper (Sending the Ba'thist to the showers! ;-)
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I guess we'll have to bail them out, again.

It's kind of like that friend that works the same job as you but never seems to have any money when it comes time to pay for lunch.

13 posted on 01/06/2004 11:36:16 AM PST by m1-lightning (Weapons of deterrence do not deter terrorists; people of deterrence do.)
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yuck!
14 posted on 01/06/2004 11:38:03 AM PST by m1-lightning (Weapons of deterrence do not deter terrorists; people of deterrence do.)
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To: m1-lightning
Hopefully the last thing the pilot said was not "Allah Akbar", like that other Egyptian pilot a while back.
15 posted on 01/06/2004 1:23:36 PM PST by Imal (Wonder Bread helps build strong bodies 7 ways, after taxes.)
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"But I don't think it was a terrorist act because there's no possibility for that in Sharm el-Sheik or anywhere else in Egypt," Mubarak told reporters in the northern city of Alexandria.

What an incredibly revealing thing to say.

16 posted on 01/06/2004 1:26:39 PM PST by Imal (Wonder Bread helps build strong bodies 7 ways, after taxes.)
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To: m1-lightning
Mechanical failure or sabotage?
17 posted on 01/06/2004 1:53:04 PM PST by weegee
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To: DeepDish
Land el-Sharq
18 posted on 01/06/2004 3:39:03 PM PST by thesummerwind (Images of broken light which dance before me like a million eyes)
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To: m1-lightning
be kinda funny if they found a bunch of egyptian charriots down there.
19 posted on 01/06/2004 3:42:05 PM PST by Walkingfeather
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Mechanical failure or sabotage?

Or that out of control food cart.

This was most likely terrorism, just by the way everyone has been performing, news people included.

Just theatre!!!

20 posted on 01/06/2004 3:43:57 PM PST by thesummerwind (Images of broken light which dance before me like a million eyes)
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