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Jews for Jesus criticizes evangelicals
Washington Times ^
| Tuesday, January 6, 2004
| By Julia Duin
Posted on 01/05/2004 11:05:16 PM PST by JohnHuang2
Edited on 07/12/2004 4:12:01 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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To: JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2; Salem; Dubya
"I am deeply concerned about the growing tendency in evangelical Christian circles to accept the idea that Jewish people have a separate arrangement with God than gentiles," he said, "and that Jewish people therefore don't need personal faith in Jesus as their Messiah to go to heaven." Jesus was a Jew. He still is.
In fact, he is the King of the Jews.
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posted on
01/05/2004 11:11:15 PM PST
by
Happy2BMe
(2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
To: JohnHuang2
I've always had a question.
So Jews for Jesus retain their ethnicity of being Jewish obviously, but are they then considered Christians for accepting Christ as Savior, Son?
Other words they're former Jews who're now Christians?
On another note how do Ordinary Jews feel about Jesus Christ?
I've heard two different stories.. some of my Jewish friends tell me that the Christ we believe in is regarded as a fake to them and that the real Christ has yet to come, and one of my Jewish friends says our Christ is just a prophet to them not Son of God.
What's the truth?
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posted on
01/05/2004 11:12:36 PM PST
by
freedom44
To: JohnHuang2
I've encountered this theology...that Jews somehow don't need salvation.
Jews are lost and sinful just like everyone else. They need the message as does any lost person.
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posted on
01/05/2004 11:12:58 PM PST
by
what's up
To: Happy2BMe
Jesus was ethnically a Jew, nothing to do with Religion.
Two different concepts.
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posted on
01/05/2004 11:14:23 PM PST
by
freedom44
To: All
Romans makes it clear that God is not finished with the Jews, and every Jewish knee will come to bow before Christ Jesus.
But, for now, God lets them reject Christ.
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posted on
01/05/2004 11:16:05 PM PST
by
rwfromkansas
("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
To: freedom44
What's the truth? The truth of all this is represented very well in both the Old and New Testaments commonly referred to as the Christian Bible.
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posted on
01/05/2004 11:20:36 PM PST
by
Justice
To: freedom44
The Jews were a spiritual race. Their faith brought them spiritual life. Jesus Christ also had spiritual life as a Jew and through faith and born perfect with that spirit as the only Perfect Sacrifice to pay for the sins of all mankind. After Christ, all Gentiles also had access to spiritual life as royal priests in the mystery Church Age.
He was and is the King of the Jews. He also is the Head of the Church.
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posted on
01/05/2004 11:21:14 PM PST
by
Cvengr
To: Happy2BMe
I think, more importantly, Jesus was the Son of God and God on earth.
I'm pretty sure his ethnicity wasn't important to him.
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posted on
01/05/2004 11:25:00 PM PST
by
philetus
(Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
Comment #12 Removed by Moderator
To: JohnHuang2
Is a ceasefire on the conversion front too much to ask for?
Jews don't go around misquioting the Christian Scriptures to get Christians to become Jews. Why can't Christians show us the same respect?
Ron
Jews for Jesus are no better than the idiots at Noahide.com
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posted on
01/05/2004 11:59:06 PM PST
by
rmlew
(Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
To: freedom44
What's the truth?It depends on who you talk to... Given the fact that if you ask 3 Jews a question on faith or religion, you'll at least 4 different answers, there is no "truth" (or for that matter "Truth") when it comes to your question.
Mark
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posted on
01/06/2004 1:59:04 AM PST
by
MarkL
(It's the Chief's Second Season! See you in the Playoffs!)
To: freedom44
Other words they're former Jews who're now Christians? No. They're (ethnically) Jewish Christians, just as Peter, Paul, Mark, Matthew, et. al. were.
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posted on
01/06/2004 2:02:15 AM PST
by
Buggman
(President Bush sends his regards.)
To: JohnHuang2
Good morning John and everyone.
Gal 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
Gal 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster [to bring us] unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Gal 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Gal 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Some people will always find something to whine and feel sorry for theirself about.
Especially if it will help them raise money.
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posted on
01/06/2004 8:10:57 AM PST
by
Dubya
(Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
To: JohnHuang2
But in 2003, there was a $371,130 drop in offerings and a 25 percent drop in speaking invitations. Here's the real reason Brickner is upset..he is losing MONEY. That's all it is about.
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posted on
01/06/2004 8:22:07 AM PST
by
montag813
(<br>Fire Tenet...Jail Novak...Rally 'Round Our President, Dammit!!!)
To: Happy2BMe; All
Jewish people therefore don't need personal faith in Jesus as their Messiah to go to heavenAnyone who says or believes this is mistaken.
There is one way to Heaven. JESUS by faith.
BTW thanks for the ping. Dub
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posted on
01/06/2004 8:47:48 AM PST
by
Dubya
(Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
To: freedom44
Jewish friends says our Christ is just a prophet to them not Son of GodThe Muslims also believe this.
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posted on
01/06/2004 8:49:21 AM PST
by
Dubya
(Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
To: Justice
Great post.
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posted on
01/06/2004 8:51:57 AM PST
by
Dubya
(Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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