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Clinton Enjoys Role as Adviser of Zot!
NY Times ^ | KATHARINE Q. SEELYE

Posted on 01/05/2004 11:17:52 AM PST by zing ding

He left office nearly three years ago as one of the most successful Presidents ever, and Bill Clinton, the youngest ex-president in modern times, is still the go-to guy in Democratic politics.

All of the party's major candidates for president say they call on Mr. Clinton for advice. They say the former president always seems eager to talk politics, and one says the former president sometimes seems to relish the calls as an excuse not to work on his memoirs.

"He said to me once, `I shouldn't be spending this much time, I've got to be writing my book,' " this candidate said. "But if you get him at home or in the office and he's not traveling, he has the time. And he loves it."

The candidates said they were seeking advice on tactical and substantive matters. As they tussle over the direction of the party, they are also consulting former Clinton aides to help flesh out their policy proposals. Robert E. Rubin, Mr. Clinton's treasury secretary, and Gene Sperling, a senior economic adviser in the Clinton White House, are particularly popular.

Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, who calls himself the former president's ideological heir, said, "He's brilliant, both on policy and politics."

"We'll talk about where we are on some issue, and maybe this is the way to deal with it," Mr. Lieberman said.

Representative Richard A. Gephardt said Mr. Clinton had helped with "the whole construct" of his campaign.

Mr. Gephardt added: "He always said to me, `One of your advantages is your experience,' and he said, `That's something you obviously need to talk about and make an asset, not a negative.' "

When Gen. Wesley K. Clark, a fellow Arkansan, entered the campaign in September, the re-emergence of Clinton loyalists like Bruce Lindsey fueled speculation that Mr. Clinton and his wife, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, were backing General Clark as a way to stop another candidate, Howard Dean. General Clark said the Clintons had encouraged him to run, but the Clintons have said they would not endorse anyone in the primaries.

Moreover, the Clintons have said positive things about many of the candidates, leaving General Clark to compete for a public blessing. His campaign did some elaborate planning last month to have Mr. Clinton issue a one-sentence tribute to General Clark to rebut Slobodan Milosevic at the former Yugoslav president's war-crimes trial in the Hague.

General Clark said that Mr. Clinton had helped him make the transition from the military to politics. "The biggest thing is in terms of dealing with people who question you," General Clark said.

He said Mr. Clinton had also advised him that "you have to have positive energy in the campaign, you have to fight hard but you don't want to get negative."

A Clinton friend, Linda Bloodworth-Thomason, the television producer who with her husband, Harry Thomason, made the campaign video "The Man From Hope" for Mr. Clinton in 1992, has made the similar "American Son" for General Clark.

Last week, the Clark campaign became the first with a commercial that included a picture of Mr. Clinton, though Mr. Gephardt noted that he was the first to refer to Mr. Clinton in a commercial, in September.

When Mr. Lieberman heard about the Clark commercial, he sounded a bit miffed that he had been beaten to the punch.

"Has President Clinton now become public property so that we can do it without his permission?" Mr. Lieberman asked reporters in a conference call.

Even Dr. Dean, who has made statements perceived as critical of Mr. Clinton, mentioned the former president and his wife in an interview: "I talk to both him and the senator fairly frequently."

Dr. Dean added: "Sometimes they call me, but it's usually me calling them. Sometimes I ask Hillary for advice on how she would respond to some stuff. He and I talk about strategy and the campaign."

Three of the candidates, Dr. Dean, General Clark and Carol Moseley Braun, followed in Mr. Clinton's footsteps last week, going to South Carolina for the New Year's retreat of movers and shakers known as the Renaissance Weekend.

"Clinton remains a protean force in the Democratic Party," said Thomas Mann, an expert on politics at the Brookings Institution.

"All of the candidates would like to emulate his success and to contrast the economic success of the 90's with what Bush has done," Mr. Mann said.


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To: Admin Moderator
I want on the ZOT! ping list.
101 posted on 01/05/2004 6:00:05 PM PST by Brett66
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To: DeSoto
But will he really stop now?

If he knows what's good for him, he won't try anything like this again, anywhere. I hope they let us know if they get any similar trolling out of NC (like from a free AOL account).
102 posted on 01/05/2004 6:00:17 PM PST by TaxRelief (Lotsa chutspa over there in the Roanoke River Basin....)
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To: Admin Moderator
Thanks.
103 posted on 01/05/2004 8:08:51 PM PST by 185JHP ( Freedom is my favorite word for "nothing left to prove.")
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To: upchuck
Scary, every single trait matches, the only thing missing from that description of a sociopath is the picture of Bill.
104 posted on 01/05/2004 9:03:07 PM PST by HangThemHigh (Have you seen Quasimodo? I have a hunch he's back.)
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To: HangThemHigh
Yeah, that's scary all right! Now go back and read the traits again while thinking about The Hildabeaste. Even more scary!!
105 posted on 01/05/2004 9:15:06 PM PST by upchuck (This tag line will self-destruct in five seconds. 5.... 4.... 3.... 2.... 1.... DISOLVE!)
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To: zing ding

106 posted on 01/05/2004 11:06:03 PM PST by My Favorite Headache (I Stand With Alex Lifeson)
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To: Admin Moderator
Ok, so 'zot' means someone sneaking into FR, or the act of catching the person itself? Help, I am just getting the in-speak here....
107 posted on 01/06/2004 12:38:16 AM PST by sfRummygirl (SAVE TERRI SHINDLER SCHIAVO...www.terrisfight.org)
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To: will1776
This is crazy. I think the person is truly nuts.
108 posted on 01/06/2004 12:41:37 AM PST by sfRummygirl (SAVE TERRI SHINDLER SCHIAVO...www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Admin Moderator
Ok, so wait.....this is also Timmy?
109 posted on 01/06/2004 12:42:28 AM PST by sfRummygirl (SAVE TERRI SHINDLER SCHIAVO...www.terrisfight.org)
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To: sfRummygirl
I think Timmy is a distinct troll altogether. Notice in post 31 that the Timothy Toler troll isn't mentioned. I think that with some of his later posts, Admin confirmed that this was the North Carolina/holiday troll.
110 posted on 01/06/2004 9:14:32 AM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (The Democratic Party: Without an electoral mandate for almost 28 years.)
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To: Admin Moderator
Could I please get on the zot ping list as well? I'm always so late for these things. Thanks.
111 posted on 01/07/2004 5:16:45 AM PST by AQGeiger (Free Republic: The best medicine for a diagnosis of liberalism.)
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