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Clinton Enjoys Role as Adviser of Zot!
NY Times ^ | KATHARINE Q. SEELYE

Posted on 01/05/2004 11:17:52 AM PST by zing ding

He left office nearly three years ago as one of the most successful Presidents ever, and Bill Clinton, the youngest ex-president in modern times, is still the go-to guy in Democratic politics.

All of the party's major candidates for president say they call on Mr. Clinton for advice. They say the former president always seems eager to talk politics, and one says the former president sometimes seems to relish the calls as an excuse not to work on his memoirs.

"He said to me once, `I shouldn't be spending this much time, I've got to be writing my book,' " this candidate said. "But if you get him at home or in the office and he's not traveling, he has the time. And he loves it."

The candidates said they were seeking advice on tactical and substantive matters. As they tussle over the direction of the party, they are also consulting former Clinton aides to help flesh out their policy proposals. Robert E. Rubin, Mr. Clinton's treasury secretary, and Gene Sperling, a senior economic adviser in the Clinton White House, are particularly popular.

Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, who calls himself the former president's ideological heir, said, "He's brilliant, both on policy and politics."

"We'll talk about where we are on some issue, and maybe this is the way to deal with it," Mr. Lieberman said.

Representative Richard A. Gephardt said Mr. Clinton had helped with "the whole construct" of his campaign.

Mr. Gephardt added: "He always said to me, `One of your advantages is your experience,' and he said, `That's something you obviously need to talk about and make an asset, not a negative.' "

When Gen. Wesley K. Clark, a fellow Arkansan, entered the campaign in September, the re-emergence of Clinton loyalists like Bruce Lindsey fueled speculation that Mr. Clinton and his wife, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, were backing General Clark as a way to stop another candidate, Howard Dean. General Clark said the Clintons had encouraged him to run, but the Clintons have said they would not endorse anyone in the primaries.

Moreover, the Clintons have said positive things about many of the candidates, leaving General Clark to compete for a public blessing. His campaign did some elaborate planning last month to have Mr. Clinton issue a one-sentence tribute to General Clark to rebut Slobodan Milosevic at the former Yugoslav president's war-crimes trial in the Hague.

General Clark said that Mr. Clinton had helped him make the transition from the military to politics. "The biggest thing is in terms of dealing with people who question you," General Clark said.

He said Mr. Clinton had also advised him that "you have to have positive energy in the campaign, you have to fight hard but you don't want to get negative."

A Clinton friend, Linda Bloodworth-Thomason, the television producer who with her husband, Harry Thomason, made the campaign video "The Man From Hope" for Mr. Clinton in 1992, has made the similar "American Son" for General Clark.

Last week, the Clark campaign became the first with a commercial that included a picture of Mr. Clinton, though Mr. Gephardt noted that he was the first to refer to Mr. Clinton in a commercial, in September.

When Mr. Lieberman heard about the Clark commercial, he sounded a bit miffed that he had been beaten to the punch.

"Has President Clinton now become public property so that we can do it without his permission?" Mr. Lieberman asked reporters in a conference call.

Even Dr. Dean, who has made statements perceived as critical of Mr. Clinton, mentioned the former president and his wife in an interview: "I talk to both him and the senator fairly frequently."

Dr. Dean added: "Sometimes they call me, but it's usually me calling them. Sometimes I ask Hillary for advice on how she would respond to some stuff. He and I talk about strategy and the campaign."

Three of the candidates, Dr. Dean, General Clark and Carol Moseley Braun, followed in Mr. Clinton's footsteps last week, going to South Carolina for the New Year's retreat of movers and shakers known as the Renaissance Weekend.

"Clinton remains a protean force in the Democratic Party," said Thomas Mann, an expert on politics at the Brookings Institution.

"All of the candidates would like to emulate his success and to contrast the economic success of the 90's with what Bush has done," Mr. Mann said.


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1 posted on 01/05/2004 11:17:53 AM PST by zing ding
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To: zing ding
Bill Clinton...the best Democratic leader the Republicans have ever had.
2 posted on 01/05/2004 11:18:57 AM PST by RichInOC (...somebody had to say it...why not me?)
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To: zing ding; Admin Moderator
Welcome to FR. See ya.
3 posted on 01/05/2004 11:20:33 AM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Oklahomans: If you're related to some of them, you're related to all of them.)
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4 posted on 01/05/2004 11:21:09 AM PST by Support Free Republic (Hi Mom! Hi Dad!)
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To: zing ding
Although the source makes it obvious, I would have appreciated a barf alert ; )
5 posted on 01/05/2004 11:21:35 AM PST by RebelBanker (Deo Vindice)
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To: zing ding
He left office nearly three years ago as one of the most successful Presidents ever, and Bill Clinton

The disgraced/impeached one? ROTF. This person lives an alternate reality! He's got a 23% approval rating! No one likes this guy but the twisted freaks who can "relate".

6 posted on 01/05/2004 11:21:43 AM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: zing ding
You wouldn't be at a gov. office in N. Carolina, would you?
7 posted on 01/05/2004 11:21:48 AM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Oklahomans: If you're related to some of them, you're related to all of them.)
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To: zing ding
zing ding = zot bait
8 posted on 01/05/2004 11:22:37 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
Is ZOTTING still allowed?


9 posted on 01/05/2004 11:24:48 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: concerned about politics
Now, now. There are plenty of things Billy Boy can advise us on:

-How to not only ignore a growing terrorist threat, but to actually aid and abet it
-How to facilitate the export of nuclear technology
-How to release terrorists onto the street to aid political campaigns (this will be very tough to pull off in a post-9/11 world without Clinton's consultation)
-How to routinely commit and suborn perjury and obstruct justice before federal grand juries/depositions
-How to remove barriers in abtaining security clearances so the sleazeballs you've surrounded yourself with can come to work every day
-How to cut a deal being suspended for five years doesn't sound as bad as being disbarred.
-How to discuss troop deployment while one's pants are around one's ankles.

10 posted on 01/05/2004 11:28:04 AM PST by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: zing ding
Timmy, that you? How's things at the office? Boss find out about bombing FR from a gummint 'puter yet? Naughty, naughty...
11 posted on 01/05/2004 11:29:23 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: zing ding
lol!

Yeah...the rapist advised gray davis.

A lot of good that did him.

12 posted on 01/05/2004 11:32:41 AM PST by South40 (My vote helped defeat cruz bustamante; did yours?)
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To: zing ding; 11th Earl of Mar; 185JHP; 4mycountry; aculeus; Admin Moderator; baby; amom; Annie03; ...
Meow.
13 posted on 01/05/2004 11:32:52 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: zing ding
Welcome to FR, wing ding.

Please place your tray in the upright position and turn off any electronic devices. You will be landing shortly.

14 posted on 01/05/2004 11:33:41 AM PST by small voice in the wilderness
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To: Billthedrill
I'll admit that I skimmed over all the names that JimRob provided in the other thread, but isn't Timmy a different troll from the holiday one?
15 posted on 01/05/2004 11:34:24 AM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Oklahomans: If you're related to some of them, you're related to all of them.)
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To: zing ding
Yesterday I got all my FR links to be purple, but today their blue again. What has Clinton done for me lately?
16 posted on 01/05/2004 11:34:36 AM PST by Fifth Business
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To: Fifth Business
their=they're
17 posted on 01/05/2004 11:35:27 AM PST by Fifth Business
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To: zing ding

18 posted on 01/05/2004 11:35:45 AM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (if we're not going to act like a constitutional republic...lets be the best empire we can be...)
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To: Admin Moderator
Is that Viking Kitty for ping?
19 posted on 01/05/2004 11:36:58 AM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Oklahomans: If you're related to some of them, you're related to all of them.)
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To: zing ding
Important question... is your favorite Zingers or King Dons? Let me know.
20 posted on 01/05/2004 11:37:17 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (Freedom is a package deal - with it comes responsibilities and consequences.)
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