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Purported Bin Laden Tape Likely Authentic
WINS NEWS ^ | 1/5/03

Posted on 01/05/2004 7:42:27 AM PST by areafiftyone

CAIRO, Egypt (AP) -- A speaker who was purportedly Osama bin Laden said on an audiotape that the U.S.-led war in Iraq was the beginning of the "occupation" of Gulf states for their oil and called on Muslims to keep fighting a holy war in the Middle East. The tape is likely authentic, U.S. officials said Monday.

The voice on the audiotape, which was broadcast Sunday on the Al-Jazeera satellite channel, referred to recent events - including the Dec. 13 capture of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein and peace initiatives between Israel and the Palestinians.

The speaker urged Muslims to "continue the jihad to check the conspiracies that are hatched against the Islamic nation."

A CIA official speaking on condition of anonymity said that a technical analysis determined that the tape was likely an authentic audio message from bin Laden, the leader of the al-Qaida terror network.

On CBS's "The Early Show," Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge also said that "preliminary assessments says this is the voice of Osama bin Laden."

Al-Jazeera played the audiotape while showing a still photo of bin Laden against a dark blue background.

"My message is to incite you against the conspiracies, especially those uncovered by the occupation of the crusaders in Baghdad under the pretext of weapons of mass destruction, and also the situation in (Jerusalem) under the deceptions of the road map and the Geneva initiative," the speaker said.

A Mideast peace plan dubbed the Geneva Accord was launched Dec. 1 by Israeli and Palestinian negotiators. The phrase "road map" refers to a U.S.-backed plan for a Palestinian state by 2005.

Ibrahim Hilal, Al-Jazeera's editor-in-chief, told The Associated Press the network received the message Sunday. However, he declined to reveal how it was delivered.

Hilal said he was certain the voice on the tape was bin Laden's.

"It is bin Laden's superb and special Arabic language that is very hard to emulate," Hilal said. "It is undoubtedly his voice, his style, and the typical examples from history he uses."

The original message was 47 minutes long but the network aired only 14 minutes, Hilal said.

In those excerpts, the speaker urged Muslims to "liberate the Islamic world from the military occupation of the Crusaders."

He said Gulf countries have given in to U.S. pressures "thinking that would not open the door for toppling of the dictatorial regimes by military force from outside, especially after they saw the capture of their previous comrade in treachery, a hireling of America," referring to Saddam.

The speaker criticized leaders of Muslim nations for refusing to pressure the United States on the Palestinian issue and for not supporting the Palestinian resistance.

He also criticized Gulf countries for receiving members of the U.S.-appointed interim Iraqi Governing Council.

He said the "big powers" were trying to control the region for its oil.

"The occupation of Iraq is the beginning of the full occupation of the other Gulf states. ... The Gulf is the key for control of the world in the point of view of the big powers because of the presence of the biggest deposits of oil."

British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said Monday in London that he had no confirmation that the voice on the tape was bin Laden's but that it was a safe assumption.

"There is no question that the al-Qaida organization and its networks are still around. And so far as we know, Osama bin Laden is still alive," Straw told British Broadcasting Corp. radio.

Al-Jazeera last broadcast an audiotape purportedly from bin Laden in October. CIA analysts examining that tape concluded it probably was authentic.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; War on Terror
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To: ZAKJAN
I'm sure it's just a matter of time, but I wish we had put more of a visible effort into getting Afghanistan squared away first....but I don't think that country has as much to offer as Iraq.
41 posted on 01/05/2004 8:43:52 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"He's dead, Jim."

A vast majority of folks on here said the 2000 election was a blow-out and called me a hand-wringer for being nervous. We almost lost.

So many hear said "He's dead Jim" anytime an article about Saddam came out. He was alive.

Too much wishful thinking goes on round here sometimes.
42 posted on 01/05/2004 8:44:59 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
The American way is to buy all their oil. The statement is stupid. America does not want to occupy anything. We buy what's in our interest. The actions of this idiot bring exactly what he claims to not want.

As a matter of fact, if Bin Laden were to be captured tomorrow, major troop presence would be gone in six months. If he wants us to end the present "occupation for oil", he really should do the right thing and turn himself in.

43 posted on 01/05/2004 8:45:36 AM PST by blackdog (I'm hooked on phonics but smoking it is not so easy.)
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To: Arkinsaw
Too much wishful thinking goes on round here sometimes.

He's dead, Jim.

Don't you just hate it when the world doesn't obey your orders?

44 posted on 01/05/2004 8:46:07 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Don't you just hate it when the world doesn't obey your orders?

Where did I order people to stop being putzes?
45 posted on 01/05/2004 8:49:08 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: areafiftyone
It sounds to me like he's on the DNC fax list. He should be easy to find.
46 posted on 01/05/2004 8:53:01 AM PST by Moonman62
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To: Arkinsaw
So many hear said "He's dead Jim" anytime an article about Saddam came out. He was alive.

So many? Who? I didn't see many at all saying Saddam was dead.

47 posted on 01/05/2004 8:53:04 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: Arkinsaw
He's dead, Jim.
48 posted on 01/05/2004 8:53:35 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; areafiftyone
Pisslamic versions of never heard before Elvis tunes........it's now or neverrrrrrr !

Stay safe !

49 posted on 01/05/2004 8:55:38 AM PST by Squantos (Support Mental Health !........or........ I'LL KILL YOU !!!!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
He's dead, Jim.

Its also the best of all possible worlds.
50 posted on 01/05/2004 8:57:37 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Tricorn
Prior to Dec 2001, Bin Laden couldn't keep his mug OFF video.

Not exactly.

What has changed between Dec 2001 and Jan 2004?

Obviously he has changed his appearance.

Bin Laden, and his entire AQ organization, is starting to seem ridiculous.

Yeah, no threat whatsoever. (/sarcasm)

There is zero evidence that he is dead. There is evidence aplenty, including intelligence from multiple countries, and these audio tapes that have been authenticated and refer to recent events, that point to his being alive.

Furthermore, our government has outright said he's alive, and spare me the "they're just saying that for strategic reasons" nonsense. There is zero evidence that that's how our guys handle these kind of things. Just the opposite.

51 posted on 01/05/2004 8:58:56 AM PST by cyncooper ("The evil is in plain sight")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
OBL is worm food and has been since late 2001. However, what if (tin foil on) Bushco* wants everyone to believe that OBL is still alive in order to fully prosecute the WOT to a successful conclusion without the Media / DNC / Euros howling for a cease-fire?

*Bushco is the sole property of Mark Morford / SF Chronicle. Any use of this term without the expressed, written consent of the afforementioned will result in a hissyfit.

52 posted on 01/05/2004 9:03:36 AM PST by AngryJawa (All I want for Christmas comes in .45 Auto)
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To: areafiftyone
Oh, oh, I'm so afraid of a tape! He knows he can't set foot outside his cave.
53 posted on 01/05/2004 9:06:15 AM PST by mtbopfuyn
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To: areafiftyone
keep fighting a holy war in the Middle East.

Wouldn't be a war in Iraq if OBL hadn't attacked NYC and the Pentagon and the Cole and the African embassies, etc. OTOH, OBL might still be alive and not buried in a small rocky hole in Tora Bora if he hadn't been forced to run for it after making his attack.

54 posted on 01/05/2004 9:08:01 AM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: AngryJawa
However, what if (tin foil on) Bushco* wants everyone to believe that OBL is still alive in order to fully prosecute the WOT to a successful conclusion without the Media / DNC / Euros howling for a cease-fire?

My declaring that "He's dead, Jim" will not change one single person's mind.

Bushco's plans go on as scheduled.

55 posted on 01/05/2004 9:08:10 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: cyncooper
"Obviously he has changed his appearance."

There is zero evidence that he has changed his appearance. Obviously? Saddam didn't change HIS appearance.

"Yeah, no threat whatsoever. (/sarcasm"

Didn't say they are no threat. I said lots of bluff and bluster and no results makes them seem ridiculous. And it does.

The point is, whether or not the audiotape is "authentic" or not is up to us, not them. If it served our purposes to say it is not authentic, we would do so. It's up to us, you see. Why would they leave that ball in our hands if they didn't have to? The fact is there is zero evidence that UBL is alive. All the "evidence" comes from our side, not theirs.
56 posted on 01/05/2004 9:08:57 AM PST by Tricorn
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To: Arkinsaw
Too much wishful thinking goes on round here sometimes.

Amen.

Some feel the need to spin every topic politically. For some unknown reason they feel the OBL needs to be dead in order to gain some political advantage. So they wish him dead. More pollyanish thinking.

57 posted on 01/05/2004 9:10:20 AM PST by Smogger
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To: #3Fan
So many? Who? I didn't see many at all saying Saddam was dead.

There were hundreds of posts claiming that we got him in the decapitation attack prior the start of ground action. Then again when we bombed that Baghdad suburb.

58 posted on 01/05/2004 9:11:59 AM PST by Smogger
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To: areafiftyone
The original message was 47 minutes long but the network aired only 14 minutes, Hilal said.

Poor Osama, not even the Network of the People can stand listening to all his blather.
59 posted on 01/05/2004 9:15:30 AM PST by kingu
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To: #3Fan
I saw quite a few. I found these with a 5 minute search. Some folks base comments on evidence of the moment, but some are pollyanna's who think we have to discount contrary information just like the Democrats do.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/948122/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/953372/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/932685/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/931227/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/908769/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/931430/posts
60 posted on 01/05/2004 9:16:02 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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