Purported Bin Laden Tape Likely Authentic

WINS NEWS ^ | 1/5/03

[stuartcr]

I'm sure it's just a matter of time, but I wish we had put more of a visible effort into getting Afghanistan squared away first....but I don't think that country has as much to offer as Iraq.

[Arkinsaw]

"He's dead, Jim."

A vast majority of folks on here said the 2000 election was a blow-out and called me a hand-wringer for being nervous. We almost lost.

So many hear said "He's dead Jim" anytime an article about Saddam came out. He was alive.

Too much wishful thinking goes on round here sometimes.

[blackdog]

The American way is to buy all their oil. The statement is stupid. America does not want to occupy anything. We buy what's in our interest. The actions of this idiot bring exactly what he claims to not want.

As a matter of fact, if Bin Laden were to be captured tomorrow, major troop presence would be gone in six months. If he wants us to end the present "occupation for oil", he really should do the right thing and turn himself in.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Too much wishful thinking goes on round here sometimes.

He's dead, Jim.

Don't you just hate it when the world doesn't obey your orders?

[Arkinsaw]

Don't you just hate it when the world doesn't obey your orders?

Where did I order people to stop being putzes?

[Moonman62]

It sounds to me like he's on the DNC fax list. He should be easy to find.

[#3Fan]

So many hear said "He's dead Jim" anytime an article about Saddam came out. He was alive.

So many? Who? I didn't see many at all saying Saddam was dead.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

He's dead, Jim.

[Squantos]

Pisslamic versions of never heard before Elvis tunes........it's now or neverrrrrrr !

Stay safe !

[Arkinsaw]

He's dead, Jim.

Its also the best of all possible worlds.

[cyncooper]

Prior to Dec 2001, Bin Laden couldn't keep his mug OFF video.

Not exactly.

What has changed between Dec 2001 and Jan 2004?

Obviously he has changed his appearance.

Bin Laden, and his entire AQ organization, is starting to seem ridiculous.

Yeah, no threat whatsoever. (/sarcasm)

There is zero evidence that he is dead. There is evidence aplenty, including intelligence from multiple countries, and these audio tapes that have been authenticated and refer to recent events, that point to his being alive.

Furthermore, our government has outright said he's alive, and spare me the "they're just saying that for strategic reasons" nonsense. There is zero evidence that that's how our guys handle these kind of things. Just the opposite.

[AngryJawa]

OBL is worm food and has been since late 2001. However, what if (tin foil on) Bushco* wants everyone to believe that OBL is still alive in order to fully prosecute the WOT to a successful conclusion without the Media / DNC / Euros howling for a cease-fire?

*Bushco is the sole property of Mark Morford / SF Chronicle. Any use of this term without the expressed, written consent of the afforementioned will result in a hissyfit.

[mtbopfuyn]

Oh, oh, I'm so afraid of a tape! He knows he can't set foot outside his cave.

[RightWhale]

keep fighting a holy war in the Middle East.

Wouldn't be a war in Iraq if OBL hadn't attacked NYC and the Pentagon and the Cole and the African embassies, etc. OTOH, OBL might still be alive and not buried in a small rocky hole in Tora Bora if he hadn't been forced to run for it after making his attack.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

However, what if (tin foil on) Bushco* wants everyone to believe that OBL is still alive in order to fully prosecute the WOT to a successful conclusion without the Media / DNC / Euros howling for a cease-fire?

My declaring that "He's dead, Jim" will not change one single person's mind.

Bushco's plans go on as scheduled.

[Tricorn]

"Obviously he has changed his appearance."

There is zero evidence that he has changed his appearance. Obviously? Saddam didn't change HIS appearance.

"Yeah, no threat whatsoever. (/sarcasm"

Didn't say they are no threat. I said lots of bluff and bluster and no results makes them seem ridiculous. And it does.

The point is, whether or not the audiotape is "authentic" or not is up to us, not them. If it served our purposes to say it is not authentic, we would do so. It's up to us, you see. Why would they leave that ball in our hands if they didn't have to? The fact is there is zero evidence that UBL is alive. All the "evidence" comes from our side, not theirs.

[Smogger]

Too much wishful thinking goes on round here sometimes.

Amen.

Some feel the need to spin every topic politically. For some unknown reason they feel the OBL needs to be dead in order to gain some political advantage. So they wish him dead. More pollyanish thinking.

[Smogger]

So many? Who? I didn't see many at all saying Saddam was dead.

There were hundreds of posts claiming that we got him in the decapitation attack prior the start of ground action. Then again when we bombed that Baghdad suburb.

[kingu]

The original message was 47 minutes long but the network aired only 14 minutes, Hilal said.

Poor Osama, not even the Network of the People can stand listening to all his blather.

[Arkinsaw]

I saw quite a few. I found these with a 5 minute search. Some folks base comments on evidence of the moment, but some are pollyanna's who think we have to discount contrary information just like the Democrats do.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/948122/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/953372/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/932685/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/931227/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/908769/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/931430/posts