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Help Block The Rove Amnesty Plan In Congress, Contact These Congressmen
Pubbie | 1/04/04 | Pubbie

Posted on 01/04/2004 8:16:18 PM PST by Pubbie

Fellow Freepers, we need to try to block the Bush Amnesty Proposal that is being prepared to be released on Wednesday, by Freeping the GOP members of the House Judiciary Committee:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A52647-2004Jan3.html

The gist of the Washington Post story is that Bush will propose 3 major components on Wednesday:

1) Give an amnesty to an unspecified amount of Illegal Aliens (Probably a little less than 500,000 people.)

2) Give some sort of Social Security benefits to Illegal Aliens.

3) Create some sort of Guest Worker program.

I believe that if we put enough grass roots pressure on the GOP House Judiciary Committee members (who are listed below) we can have parts 1 and 2 completely removed from any bill in the House, and have part 3 considerably watered down if a large amount of us protest by Phoning/Faxing/E-Mailing the GOP members of the House Judiciary Committee and demanding that they reject the Amnesty (Below is a list of how to contact all members of the GOP House Judiciary Committee memebers).

Now the Buchananites here on FR will no doubt say "The GOP doesn't listen to us/There is no difference between the two parties/ blah blah blah...". But they are wrong, there is considerable opposition within the House GOP to any amnesty for Illegal immigrants.

In August 2001 the House GOP was ready to rebel against the President and kill off the original Bush Amnesty proposal, until the 911 attacks buried the plan.

All GOP politicians (With the apparent exception of Bush and Rove) know very well that illegal immigrants won't vote for Republicans.

Think about it, all politicians absolutely MUST know who is and isn't going to vote for them.

The GOP has studied the 2000 and 2002 Election Exit polls in excruciating detail, and there is no evidence whatsoever that the GOP got any headway in the Latino vote in 2002. Furthermore polls show that no headway will be made by the GOP in the 2004 election.

That is why a number of major Republican politicians in November and December of 2003 have publicly said that there was major hostility to any Amnesty program within Congress.

For Example:

* Texas Governor Rick Perry said (during a meeting with Vicente Fox no less) that there was no support for any sort of Amnesty for Illegal Immigrants in Congress.

* Arizona Senator John Kyl said the McCain/Kolbe Amnesty bill, and other Illegal Immigrant bills, would be impossible to pass in 2004.

* Texas Congressman Lamar Smith (Who sits on the Judiciary Committee) said after the Ridge Trial balloon for Amnesty to all Illegal Immigrants:

"I don't see a substantial change in immigration policy in an election year," said Rep. Lamar Smith, R-San Antonio, a House immigration subcommittee member who has expressed concern that an amnesty program for illegal immigrants could harm national security."

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dallas/nation/stories/121203dnnatimmigration.76a1.html

* And Finally Tom Tancredo said in the same article:

"We have enough support on our side to stop them from liberalizing immigration law," said Mr. Tancredo, R" Colo. "And on the other hand, I don't think I have enough [support] to advance our agenda. So, that's why I think we are sort of at loggerheads."

What we Freepers need to do is, instead of voting for the Constitution Party:

1) Phone up the below members of the GOP House Judiciary Committee Members (Who are all listed below) to complain about this Amnesty plan and tell them not to pass it.

2) Fax these Congressmen to tell them to reject the plan.

3) Email these Congressmen to reject an amnesty.

If enough of us complain, it will help block the major portions of the White House's plan in the House where most Republican Congressmen are already very leary of an Amnesty plan.

PS: In your letters/phone calls/E-mails to the below Congressmen, do NOT use any vulgarity.

Regards,

Pubbie

***REPUBLICAN HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE MEMBERS***

*Chairman Of The Committee, James Sensenbrenner*

Washington, D.C. Office To write about issues pending in Congress, internships, flags, or tours, contact: 2449 Rayburn House Office Building Washington, D.C. 20515-4905 Telephone: (202) 225-5101

My e-mail address is sensenbrenner@mail.house.gov. If you contact me through e-mail, please include your postal mailing address.

*Henry Hyde*

Washington D.C. 2110 Rayburn House Office Building Washington D.C. 20515 Phone: (202) 225-4561 Fax: (202) 225-1166

*Howard Coble*

Washington, DC 2468 Rayburn House Office Building Washington, DC 20515-3306 Phone: 202.225.3065 Fax: 202.225.8611

EMAIL: howard.coble@mail.house.gov

*Lamar Smith*

Washington D.C. Office 2231 Rayburn House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 202-225-4236 202-225-8628 fax

*Elton Gallegly*

Office of Congressman Elton Gallegly 2427 Rayburn HOB Washington, DC 20515-0523 Phone: (202) 225-5811 FAX: (202) 225-1100

*Bob Goodlatte*

Washington, DC Office: 2240 Rayburn House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 (202) 225-5431 (202) 225-9681 fax

*Steve Chabot*

Washington Office

129 Cannon House Office Building Washington, D.C. 20515

(202) 225-2216 (202) 225-3012 (fax)

*Bill Jenkins*

Congressman Bill Jenkins 1207 Longworth Office Building Washington, D.C. 20515 Phone No. (202) 225-6356 Fax. (202) 225-5714

*Chris Cannon*

Washington Office 118 Cannon House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 Phone: (202) 225-7751 Fax: (202) 225-5629 Email: cannon.ut03@mail.house.gov

*Spencer Bachus*

Washington, D.C. Office 442 Cannon Building Washington, D.C. 20515 202 225-4921 phone 202 225-2082 fax

*John Hostettler*

Washington, DC Office 1214 Longworth House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 TEL: (202) 225-4636 FAX: (202) 225-3284

Email- John.Hostettler@mail.house.gov

*Mark Green*

Congressman Mark Green 1314 Longworth Bldg. Washington, D.C. 20515 Phone: (202) 225-5665 Fax: (202) 225-5729

Mark.Green@mail.house.gov

*Ric Keller*

Washington Office:

419 Cannon House Office Building Washington, D.C. 20515 Phone (202) 225-2176 Fax (202) 225-0999

*Melissa Hart*

Washington, DC Office 1508 Longworth House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 Ph. 202-225-2565 Fx. 202-226-2274

*Jeff Flake*

Washington, DC Office Address:

424 Cannon House Office Building Washington, D.C. 20515-0301

(202) 225-2635 - phone (202) 226-4386 - fax

*Mike Pence*

In Washington DC 1605 Longworth HOB Washington, DC 20515 (202) 225-3021 office (202) 225-3382 fax

*J. Randy Forbes*

WASHINGTON DC OFFICE 307 Cannon House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-6365 Fax: 202-226-1170

*Steve King*

Washington, D.C. Office Office of Congressman Steve King 1432 Longworth Office Building Washington D.C. 20515 (202) 225-4426 Fax: (202) 225-3193

*John Carter*

Washington, D.C. Office 408 CHOB Washington, D.C. 20515 (202) 225-3864

*Tom Feeney*

Washington, D.C. Office

323 Cannon House Office Building Washington DC 20515 phone:(202) 225-2706 fax:(202) 226-6299

*Marsha Blackburn*

509 Cannon House Office Building Washington, D.C. 20515 202-225-2811 202-225-3004 fax


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To: Luis Gonzalez
What is decided in the Summit of Americas becomes policy in the United States. This country's citizens no longer have a voice in their own government.

We do not have a treaty with any other nation to provide social security to their illegal immigrants. If you know of such a treaty you should post text or links to it. If you know such a treaty exists and you do not make the information available you do a great disservice to Americans.
201 posted on 01/07/2004 11:48:32 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Cultural Jihad
They are economic refugees, and if the difference between feeding your family or not is forging a signature then that's a heck of a lot different from forging any other document for purposes of theft or to avoid prosecution for violent crimes.

Oh good grief. "Economic refugees"? A PC euphemism is a PC euphemism. Why not call them "Undocumented-Americans"? Oh, that's the left's PC euphemism, can't use that, now can we.

I guess the illegals who stole my rowboat, and stole my blueberry crop three years in a row were just "economic refugees" too, eh?

"Economic refugees" my ass. They are illegal aliens, who make a mockery of our country. They have a country of their own. They can either make something of it, or live in squalor if they choose not to make something of it.

Coming here, illegally, to depredate our country, is not an option.

202 posted on 01/07/2004 11:51:00 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
The only consistently reliable way of getting your government's ear? Citizens should revoke the charters of the corporations who have usurped the power and authority of the individual. That will definitely get the governments ear and give power back to the citizen, taking it away from international "nonpersons" who should have no say in the government of this country.
203 posted on 01/07/2004 11:51:14 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Cultural Jihad
I separate out those who deal in contraband from those who consume it, which I myself do by the way. There is nothing inherently immoral about consuming cannabis...

Well, if you get busted for possession, and they confiscate your house and your car, I guess you can just plead that you're a "hedonistic refugee", and demand amnesty.

Hell, the way things are going, you might just get it.

204 posted on 01/07/2004 11:53:33 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: Richard-SIA
The current response certainly does not, and granting yet ANOTHER amnesty will only reinforce the idea that if the invaders can just hide out in the U.S. for a few years, they are assured of being eligible for the NEXT amnesty. Rewarding the invaders with an amnesty every few years is certain to attract more of them.

You know what they say about the definition of insanity, about how it's "doing the same thing, but expecting a different outcome"?

Well, President Rove and Knucklehead Ridge have proved it. We, as a nation, are clinically insane.

205 posted on 01/07/2004 11:56:41 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: Cultural Jihad
He was being kind. You should be grateful. I'm thinking a lot harsher language than he used.
206 posted on 01/07/2004 11:57:54 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: xJones
In the summit of the Americas in 1998 it was determined that illegals (they call them migrants) should have social security from the country they invade (US).

Here is the text of the directive:
Government should:
4) encourage the negotiation of bilateral or multilateral agreements, regarding the remission of social security benefits accrued by migrant workers

207 posted on 01/07/2004 11:58:15 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Richard-SIA
Another amnesty IS surrender of our national sovereignty!

Bingo!

208 posted on 01/07/2004 11:59:20 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
If someone stole your boat then prosecute them for that. To claim that "those people are all thieves because one of them stole from me," it is not rooted in American justice or Christian charity. Such an attitude is really tribal justice, which is a foreign and unAmerican concept we neither need nor want.
210 posted on 01/07/2004 12:09:29 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Indeed. I heard that Mexico now ranks 7th in the world in trade. Clearly too many of her citizens are not deriving much benefit from it.

Gee, ya think?

The problem is pretty simple. The aristocrats don't play well with others. They view their underclass as a nuisance, so, they use those that they can use, and they shove the rest of 'em across the border, and let 'em be our headache.

It's not exactly rocket science, after all.

211 posted on 01/07/2004 12:09:45 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
Your post was aggregious in its advocacy of violence. Please take it elsewhere.
212 posted on 01/07/2004 12:11:24 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Luis Gonzalez
What effort are we making to keep Americans from entering Mexico illegally?

Probably about the same degree of effort that West Germany made to keep its citizens from entering East Germany illegally.

LMAO!

This is just plain silly. You don't make an "effort" to deal with a problem that doesn't exist. I don't know of too many Americans who spend their days and fortunes scheming for a way to sneak into Mexico.

213 posted on 01/07/2004 12:13:48 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: Cultural Jihad
If someone stole your boat then prosecute them for that.

You're a funny guy. Get back with me when you visit the real world, OK? Then I can arrange for you to explain the above to the police, who know that the illegals stole it, but are powerless to do anything about it.

The rest of your post, being as it is bleeding heart liberal boilerplate, will not be quoted, or addressed.

214 posted on 01/07/2004 12:40:50 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: Cultural Jihad; Admin Moderator
Your post was aggregious in its advocacy of violence. Please take it elsewhere.

Since you succeeded in having it deleted, I cannot defend it, since I have no idea which post it was. However, I do stand by it, as I do all my words.

I suggest that if what I say upsets your liberal sensitivities so much, you cease reading what I say.

In fact, I'm directing you now to cease posting to me. Since FR will enforce such directives, I suggest you take my direction seriously.

Do NOT speak to me again. PERIOD.

215 posted on 01/07/2004 12:43:36 PM PST by Don Joe
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Ah, I think I've figured it out. The jihadist had my post deleted, in which I suggested that we have the US Military stand guard on the border, prepared to M.....G.. (hideous words obfuscated) and invaders.

How pathetic.
216 posted on 01/07/2004 12:46:15 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
My point was that it is incumbent upon the country whose laws are being broken to take the appropriate corrective measures. Most FReepers are constantly complaining that the Mexican government is doing very little to stop its citizens from entering the U.S. illegally. Well, that's because entering the U.S. illegally is not against the law in Mexico.
217 posted on 01/07/2004 2:47:41 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: Don Joe
I wouldn't rule out a Congressional bogging down. Both parties are divided on immigration issues, and there is no clear concensus in the Republican or 'Rat caucuses. That gives the possibility, if not probability, of multiple proposals floating around with none of them able to muster majority support. If that happens, Bush can tell the voters he's pandering to, "Well, I tried", and win them over that way.
218 posted on 01/07/2004 4:58:57 PM PST by Clintonfatigued
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To: Luis Gonzalez
My point was that it is incumbent upon the country whose laws are being broken to take the appropriate corrective measures. Most FReepers are constantly complaining that the Mexican government is doing very little to stop its citizens from entering the U.S. illegally. Well, that's because entering the U.S. illegally is not against the law in Mexico.

Well, it's a strawman argument if you try to apply it to me, because I fully realize the problem with Mexico's laws and policies. Far from being illegal for their underclass to enter the US illegally, it's actually encouraged. There are Mexican government programs designed to encourage members of their unwanted underclass to come here; they even show them how to gain illegal entry to the US.

Now that the gavel has dropped on this travesty (courtesy of Our Glorious Leader's speech today), we should all brace for the next shoe. (pardon the mixed metaphor)

Once the "guest worker" insanity is cast into law, the next step will be for the "guest workers" to be granted "disadvanted minority" status, with all that bring. In other words, hiring preferences, special "programs", "incentives", and "entitlements."

You heard it here first.

219 posted on 01/07/2004 6:54:21 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: Clintonfatigued
I wouldn't rule out a Congressional bogging down.

I would.

These are the same so-and-so's, who, after having explained to them exactly what they'd be doing if they passed it -- and acknowledging that they understood -- went ahead anyway, and signed a pro-spam bill into law. They even had the chutzpah to insist that it's an anti-spam law. In reality, it legitimizes spam, and gives it legal protection.

Why did they do that?

Follow the money.

Same thing here, but with the volume cranked up an order of magnitude higher.

If that happens, Bush can tell the voters he's pandering to, "Well, I tried", and win them over that way.

Fade to Charlie Brown dreaming about the Red-Haired girl, musing to himself something about, "...and wouldn't that be nice."

Reality dose: we're getting an illegal alien amnesty -- an ongoing amnesty this time, with a three year "re-up" privilege. We're also getting a renewal of the AWB.

What we're not getting, I suspect, is a two-term presidency for Bush. He's kissed off his base, and NWIH is he gonna get the "hispanic vote". The dems are already categorizing today's abomination as "a good first step", and demanding much more -- and, you can bet your bottom dollar they'll be promising much more, to the selected constituencies.

220 posted on 01/07/2004 7:01:14 PM PST by Don Joe
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