Posted on 01/04/2004 10:36:44 AM PST by SJackson
For once, The Los Angeles Times actually surprised me.
This is a newspaper which for years has devoted untold pages to the promoting of Israel-baiting and anti-Semitism, but suddenly saw fit to devote two pages to the possibility that there is a possibility that ''Jews face a widening web of hate''
Golly, they even published an article written by Abraham H. Foxman who is the national director of the Anti-Defamation League and author of ''Never Again?''
''The Threat of the New Anti-Semitism.'' Wow!
Do you think that they might just be ''getting it''?
That's an unusual action, given the fact that they, the Peter Jennings of the world, the BBC, CNN, and most of the mainstream media, have done everything in their power for years to slant the news against Israel in any possible way.
Many times I watched them gleefully speak of ''Anti-Zionism'' which we all know has been a code word for plain old Jew hatred.
Im not talking in the past, either. Sixty years ago, in pre-Holocaust days--which are looking very familiar as of late--the same signs were there.
The Jewish State has been targeted by the United Nations and the European Union continuously and singled out as a pariah state and obscenely singling it out as a ''Nazi State.'' For years, I have watched while these same press outlets who now, like a recent Newsweek, have devoted a cover and story to ''New Anti-Semitism.''
Yet, many issues gleefully reported on the terrorists bombings of Israeli civilians--after one of the mass murderers of Jewish teenagers in a disco or grandmothers and babies out for a stroll to get a pizza and then compared Israel's carefully planned and surgically executed removal of the bombers as some sort of ''tit for tat.''
We are so pitifully politically correct in this country that night after night, the news outlets are filled with nothing but the carnage that the Arabs are causing. Yet, nobody can actually mention the real root of the world's problems without being accused of being unkind and discriminating against the powerful Arab cartel.
Somehow in all this, while the Arab world is still bombing our American soldiers in ambushes that the Israelis have come to know so well, our press and president still speak of the ''Peaceful Arab nations'' Oh really? Where?
Why should I be surprised that the Arab world is still marching for Saddam when Arab fathers and grandfathers overwhelmingly supported the Nazis during World War II? I have been trying to get a marvelous book published and produced, called ''The Uriah Deadline.'' It's written by Jack Engelhard, the seasoned and highly successful author of ''Indecent Proposal.'' I thought it would a breeze.
After all, the movie with Robert Redford and Demi Moore made half a billion dollars for Paramount. I was amazed to find out from them that they were ''passing on it'' after initially loving the story. Why?
Because it deals with the bias and outright lies about Israel initiated in the newsroom every day. The bottom line: they told me that it is too political. ''They only want to produce romantic comedies now. But, the real story is that Jacks book is just too damn favorable to Israel and that, folks, isnt very politically correct these days.
What is it going to take to make the world see what is happening in Europe?
Do the Jews have to be placed in ghettos or wear yellow stars on their clothes, for people in France to see the signs?
Like a cancer that's fermenting, the United Nations passes another bill calling for Israel to stop its ''occupation.''
The world media continue their mantra against ''Zionism'' and we, in this country, continue to send aid to countries like Egypt who fill their children's textbooks with hate writings and accusations against the Jews in Israel.
When we're not doing that, Colin Powell or President Bush are going on television to speak about the ludicrous ''Roadmap to Hell'' that they've devised with all those great friends of the Jews like Germany and France, who we all know have such good plans for the Jews.
They still haven't gotten over the fact that Israel still stands, after they were able to push through the Trojan horse called, Oslo. Now, it's changed to ''Roadmap.''
I feel like Im living in some sort of Orwellian period of time when it's becoming the norm that double speak like ''Zionism'' is racism, and ''Anti-Semitism'' doesn't mean Anti-Jewish.
Terrorists like Arafat receive Noble Peace prizes and the International court of justice has lost its conscience.
They've lived so long in a tangled tale of anti-Semitism that even when the IDF discovers 44 tunnels to Egypt--as they did recently--where huge quantities of sophisticated arms to be used against Israelis civilians were being carried through 24 hours a day, the evening news responds only with Israel's circle of retaliation.
I want to scream, ''No!'' It's not retaliation! It's defense for their very survival.'' But the press, the State Department, and the anti-Semites of the world are well aware of that fact. Hatred of the Jews is alive and well.
The signs are there and we have to heed them.
The Christian right is getting it--mainly because they, too, have become victims of Arab terrorism. Yet, even though they see that their churches are being torn down and a mosque built in their places, where are their protests and marches? We need all the help we can get. We're all in the same boat.
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Nowhere do Israelis claim that it is necessary to hate. You are probably not aware of Golda Meir's famous quote, "We believe there will be peace when the Arabs love their own children more than they hate the Jews."
Yes, I do happen to believe that one's own survival takes precedence. The Israelis cannot afford to take your advice of touch-feely-warm-fuzzy-kumbaya "love thine enemy". Been there, done that. Even Jesus advised his followers to "sell his cloak to buy a sword" if need be.
Americans are raised to believe we will win; not because our "tribe" is morally better.
Americans are taught to believe that we will prevail; not because our "tribe" is better but because our SOCIETY and FORM OF GOVERNMENT is SUPERIOR. That's not "racism" and it is not this thing you call "tribalism" either.
Your finding evil "tribalism" in everything you don't agree with reminds me of this Ayn Rand cultist I used to know, pigeonholing everything into "good" and "evil" slots of "STATISM!" "COLLECTIVISM!" "OBJECTIVISM!" force-fitting every situation into these prefab cubbyholes.
what I see missing is compassion for those Arabs are unwillingly forced to act a role that they want no part of. You know those huge shows the North Korean dictator puts on, where it seems half the population is dancing in unison in the square?
Did we have compassion for those Germans who were unwilling forced to act a role they wanted no part of. You know those huge shows that Hitler put on, where it seemed half the population was dancing in unison in the square?
Yes, we did show compassion to those Germans, but not until AFTER we defeated them in an all-out war.
I'm finished with this "tribalism" debate. There are worse things for you to get all outraged about. Loving your enemy won't stop him from killing you, and sometimes you have to go to war to destroy evil--you can't "love bomb" it to death.
A time to tear, and a time to mend,
A time to be silent, and a time to speak out,
A time to love, and a time to hate,
A time for war, and a time for peace. Ecclesiastes 3:7-8
It might be YOUR truth, but were it not for Jews there would have been no Christ because Rome would not have needed him, and the role never came from HIS lips. It came from the Roman/Greco Pantheon. Hellenism. It was a lesson meant to teach us the price for disobedience to Caesar, then centuries later, the way by which to instill an irrational dislike of Jews throughout the world... It also replaced G-d with a man.
As for the Tribal part, of course we are tribal. Everyone is tribal. We had Twelve Tribes of Israel, and we became a Great Nation, just as the US started out as thirteen colonies which were united into a Great Nation.
The indigenous peoples of North and South America were Tribes, Clans, and Great Nations.
Great Britain and Scandinavia each had tribes and became Nations, each with their own cultures.
Tribal is not necessarily a bad thing. It was our tradition and culture which insured our very survival.
Christianity is what threw all these cultures together and took from each a piece, a part of their own tradition, added it to Christian Tradition, and is the reason so many forget their ancient culture.
However, many have not. And many are relearning with great difficulty what was stolen from them. Christians have never understood Christianity because it has never stopped changing. And I am going to stop there, because I have nothing against the people, just the dogma and the way it changes when the wind blows. Christian hell is full of believers who would not be considered sinners this day.
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While all the groups who were here in 1776 and those who immigrated latter contributed to America, the core of this country are the English, Welsh, Scottish, and Scotch-Irish.
Think about it. People can hyphenate "Italian-American", "Irish-American", "Polish-America", "Mexican-America", "African-American"..., however it is absurd to hyphenate "British-American" to reffer to those whose ancestors founded and built the republic. We are talking loosely about 35-388% of the population.
We *bought* New York from The Algonquian and we got our name from Amerigo Vespucci, an Italian fella, although he missed us completely.
The Dutch purchased New Netherlands. The British conquered it.
Let us not forget Florida and Ponce de Leone. Something about a Fountain of Youth...or something.
The Spanish past remains part of the history, but the people and culture were Anglo-American, at least until the Cubans came in the 1960's.
I know that people insist that WASPS formed the first real government here, but that is a huge insult to the Great Nations who had governments that had the Brits all beat to heck.
The "Great Nations" were unable to adapt to the times. Some government.
Pennsylvania was Quaker. Maryland was Catholic. And there never was such a thing as Amerindians. There are no Indians except in country of India and in the Indies.
Pennsylvania and Maryland both lost their regional character as Anglo-Americans settled. Other groups also settled, but the only distrinctive ones are the German Mennonites and Amish.
And there never was such a thing as Amerindians. There are no Indians except in country of India and in the Indies.
You damn well know to whom I was reffering. Would you preffer the term "Pre-Columbian Americans?"
The Siberians who crossed the Bering Landbridge stayed far northwest and are Eskimo and Aleut. They are far more oriental looking than the copperskinned people who were here when the Pilgrims showed up.
Linguistic analysis shows that virtually all Pre-Columbian American languages are related and come from the Proto Finno-Ugrian tongue.
They were pushed from East to West, not vice-versa, and we have a cave here the UN is trying to get its hands on that is well on its way to proving it.
If you are thinking of the Ainu like people (Kennewik Man), these were supplanted by the other Asian settlers.
OUR government is set up more like the Ancient Algonquian Government than the British government. If you insist on not believing me, I am not talking about diversity or even multiculturalism. I am talking about pure, non-revisionist history.
Give me one shred of evidence that the Framers modelled our government on the Native governments instead of Enlightenment histories of Rome and Greece, Locke and Montesque, and the Helvetic/Swiss confederation!
The Pre-Columbian peoples were viortually ignored by our Founders writtings on political theory. You are the revisionist.
We are NOT like Great Britain in almost any way at all. At our own choosing, we departed from them in more ways than you can imagine...although we seem to be coming closer lately. The democrats would simply go ga-ga over it. Feudal estates and peons to the Marxist creeps, (that Dean now represents,) who wanted a captive work force and did not want their people to be free.
That is a 10th grade arguement.
Do some studying. We were founded by people in the tradition of the British Whigs, ie the anti-Monarchists. Look uup the English Civil War and Glorious Revolution! As for fuedal estates, take a look at the Chesapeak Colonies and Southern States.
We have the most cool language in the world. It certainly isn't English. It's American. We have some of almost every language on earth imbedded in American. we make it up as we go and we ain't never been purists.
American English comes from British English dialects. That is our core. We developed independantly for 200+ years, but our heritage is clear and inescapable.
Lord help us if we ever go that far, or we will be bowing to a silly Queen who worries more about her satellite TV than the security of Windsor Castle. Do you really think we need that kind of tourist attraction?
That is a silly arguement and you know it. Our history is Anglo-American. We are not British.
But believe me, you are giving the British far more credit than they deserve...and our Founding Fathers not enough.
No, I pay attention to what they wrote. The American Revolution was argued in British terms.
The indigenous peoples here initially welcomed most of the strangers who came into their land. And because of it, and the greed of every other invading force, they were nearly wiped out, or is that something you won't acknowledge, either? Those who weren't wiped out had to deal with Missionaries who were so benevolent, they built compounds that were akin to prisons and told the people who had been pushed off their land that they could not build on *church* land or start a fire to warm themselves outside the locked gates, could not hunt for their own food on *church* land, and the only way for them to survive was to convert and enter the compound or watch their children and eventually themselves starve or freeze to death. Convert or die. The M.O. of Rome and Mohammad.
It was genocide to the nth degree.
I could tell you plenty about the Original People, the Lenape, but I don't think you really care. The root language, however, is not "Proto" Finno-Ugrian which covers most European and Baltic languages going back at least 6,000 years. The Hungarians spoke some of that, plus two other root languages, West Turk, and Mesopotamian, which is far older than the language you assign to the Lenape. Unami bears no resemblance to Finnish or Baltic. It is far more like the ancient Akkadian language with it's glyph markings and pronounciations.
There has been spoken language for at least 100,000 years. Why are you so convinced that the people from here couldn't possibly have gone out from here and watched their great-great grandchildren come back?
There are no Pre-Columbian Americans either. My arguments are only 10th grade if you are so ethno-centric that you cannot, and will not, recognize the reality of who America is.
There is no debate when someone has such a closed mind they will repeat verbatum what they INTEND to believe no matter how much proof to the contrary.
The people who first came here as settlers were not anti-monarchists as much as they were anti-theocracists. They came to flee the church and the feudal pomposity of the elite who were in league with the church to keep their power.
So you speak of decades of all these myriad happenings and end up with we are *Anglo-Americans.* Well, heck. That explains everything. Now I at least know why there are no British-Americans.
Geez!!!
There are none so blind as those with closed minds. I guess that makes me an Orthodox Jewish, Lenape, Irish, Polish, *other*-American, eh? I always thought I was an American free to practice my religion, period. I also guess that with red hair and blue eyes, I just don't fit your mold whatsoever. Dang!
And I thought the Fronnsch were bad. (mispelling intended)
Note: this topic is from 1/04/2004.Thanks SJackson.
Many times I watched them gleefully speak of "Anti-Zionism" which we all know has been a code word for plain old Jew hatred. I'm not talking in the past, either. Sixty years ago, in pre-Holocaust days -- which are looking very familiar as of late -- the same signs were there.
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