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Conservative Leader calls Dean Dean Too 'Mentally Unstable' to Be President
Talon News ^ | January 1, 2004 | Jimmy Moore

Posted on 01/01/2004 9:19:32 AM PST by nwrep

WASHINGTON (Talon News) -- The leader of a conservative political group says he thinks Democrat presidential front-runner Howard Dean is too "mentally unstable" to become president and that it is "sad" Republicans want him to be the Democrat nominee.

Religious Freedom Coalition Chairman William J. Murray sent an e-mail to supporters on Wednesday voicing his reservations about the former Vermont governor becoming the Democrat nominee for president that he says are echoed behind closed doors across the country.

"It says something about our nation that a great political party consisting of millions of Americans could possibly pick someone as mentally unstable as Howard Dean to lead their party and carry their banner into a national election," Murray wrote in the e-mail. "I have just made a comment about Dean that has not been printed anywhere, but has been said privately in newsrooms and boardrooms across the nation."

Murray added, "No one, not even Governor Howard Dean, can tell what is going to come from his mouth next."

But Murray said Republicans should not be elated at the prospect of Bush facing Dean in the general election in November.

"Republicans think that Howard Dean as the Democrat front-runner in the primaries is just a big laugh," Murray continued in the e-mail. "I don't think it is funny, I think it is sad."

Murray cited Dean's flip-flop on the issue of Christianity while on the campaign trail as evidence of his blunt description of Dean.

"I was shocked to watch [Dean] at a rally in San Francisco when he growled out loud that he wasn't going to listen to any preachers," Murray recalled in the e-mail. "Then in New Hampshire during an interview on Christmas Day with the Boston Globe, he stated that he would emphasize his Christianity as soon as he began to campaign in the South. What?"

Dissecting Dean's religious background, Murray notes that although his mother was Catholic, his father was Episcopalian and raised him in that faith.

However, when Dean met his wife, Judith Steinberg, she was Jewish. He did not want to convert to Judaism and she did not want to become a Christian. Murray said Dean and his wife contemplated becoming Unitarians as a "compromise."

"Compromise?" Murray questioned. "Unitarians do not believe in a living God."

He added, "Most Unitarians are either agnostics or atheists and they surely do not believe in the deity of Jesus Christ."

As for Dean's children, Murray said, "it gets worse."

"The Deans told their children to pick a religion, any religion, and that they would not get involved in their decision one way or the other," Murray lamented.

The two children subsequently chose to become Jewish.

Dean himself parted ways with the Episcopal Church in the 1980's "over a dispute about the route of a public bike path through the church property," Murray wrote.

"Excuse me? Now, I would leave a church if they ordained female deacons or recruited a homosexual music minister...but a bike path?," exclaimed Murray.

Murray said Dean then joined the Congregationalist Church, but now "rarely, if ever, attends."

Citing the recent Boston Globe interview, Murray said Dean was careful not to mention Jesus Christ as being "the Son of God, as a part of the Trinity, or being in any way divine."

"Indeed, he talks of Christ in the past tense, as if He had died in the human sense," Murray contends. "Perhaps Howard Dean would have been better off in a Unitarian Church, but then he would have had trouble winning any elections as a member of a near atheistic institution."

Murray says this indecision about his faith is what makes Dean change his mind so often about what he believes on a daily basis.

"One day [Dean] said he did not know if Usama bin Laden was guilty of 9-11 and that the man should get a fair trial," Murray wrote. "The next day he said Usama deserves the death penalty."

He continued, "[Dean] has stated that the United States should receive 'permission' from the United Nations before waging war and then said that the Iraqi people must determine their own fate."

Murray says this indecision about what Dean believes is evidence of someone who is "not of a single mind," alluding to possible schizophrenia, and that his run for president is both "pathetic and dangerous."

At the end of the e-mail, Murray gives a hypothetical scenario where Dean is the Democrat nominee and behind Bush by 15 percent in the polls in October. Then Bush dies running in a marathon and Vice-President Dick Cheney becomes president and decides to run against Dean.

"The Christian right envisions Cheney's lesbian daughter being married to her female lover in the White House, and they just don't vote," Murray envisions. "The Muslims join with the unions, the gays, the socialists and the loony greens to vote Dean in, and we have a madman in the White House in January '05."

Murray does not believe this is as far-fetched as it might sound and believes it should cause anyone who cares about the values and principles of America to fear the possibility of a President Howard Dean.

"The fact that Howard Dean can raise tens of millions of dollars and attract millions of supporters who really don't care what he says should scare all Americans and the rest of the world as well," Murray concluded.

Reiterating his personal concerns about Dean, Murray says that Bush should want to face the best candidate the Democrats have to offer, not their weakest.

"While Karl Rove may be ecstatic over the Democrats picking Howard Dean as their standard bearer, I am not," Murray stated at the end of his e-mail. "Further, I am sure that President George W. Bush would prefer to run on his merits and his faith against a more worthy opponent than Howard Dean."

The Washington-based Religious Freedom Coalition works on behalf of Christian rights in America and to aid persecuted Christians around the world.

Copyright © 2003 Talon News -- All rights reserved.


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To: Mr. Mojo
Clearly "it gets worse" refers to HD stating he would not get involved in the children's religious decisions, not in their decision to become Jewish. The sentence that Murray "lamented" was about Dean's lack of involvement, not the children's choice.

Unless one is just looking to be offended.
61 posted on 01/01/2004 11:02:24 AM PST by TN4Liberty (Tag----------------- <==line)
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To: Anticommie
Quite correct. Dean is not as charming, however, so he isn't as effective at it.
62 posted on 01/01/2004 11:03:50 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: G.Mason
I disagree with GOPers mouthing off about any of the Dem candidates at this point in time.

The in its current form, the Democratic Party is self destructing before our very eyes. The statements made on a daily basis by Dean, Kerry, Gephardt, etc. are doing far more damage to them and their party than anything we could ever do or say.

They are digging their own holes and making their own nooses. IMO, The best thing for us to do now is to keep handing them the shovels and rope.
63 posted on 01/01/2004 11:07:00 AM PST by Rebelbase (If I stay on topic for more than 2 posts something is wrong. Alert the authorities.)
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To: cajungirl
You are wrong again, nothing is over the top with Liberals! Besides, Dean is Crazy! Stating the truth is okay.
64 posted on 01/01/2004 11:31:14 AM PST by fish hawk (John 11:35 "Jesus Wept")
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To: cajungirl; All
Hey, I thought this piece was satire - seriously. I know it wasn't posted under humor but I didn't think these were the quotes of a "real" conservative leader.
65 posted on 01/01/2004 11:45:54 AM PST by Let's Roll (Support our brave troops as they protect us from evil.)
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To: nwrep
This guy MURRAY is as bad as Dean. He's as egomaniacally
self-fascinated with his own opinions as Dean.
66 posted on 01/01/2004 11:58:07 AM PST by Vinomori
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To: Common Tator
"You are as ignorant of what it takes to win an election as Howard Dean."

With one difference. I'm not running for office.

Here's a headline for you ....... I, as an American, have a right to my opinion, as you, and Marple have.

Your comments have been duly noted, and filed.

67 posted on 01/01/2004 12:19:49 PM PST by G.Mason ( Oh Hillary? ....... GWB is waiting.)
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To: eddie willers
Better plan for Clark.

I've long said I fear Dean. Clark would scare me as well. I'll be so glad when this election is over, and Bush is still in the WH!

I just quit my job, and will have lots of time to work on his campaign.

68 posted on 01/01/2004 12:28:46 PM PST by mombonn
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To: cajungirl
"Whoa Bubba!"

Whoa Bubba?

"Our rhetoric is important."

Our rhetoric is important? Well golly gee whiz, you've convinced me.

69 posted on 01/01/2004 12:34:06 PM PST by G.Mason ( Oh Hillary? ....... GWB is waiting.)
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To: Common Tator
Dr. Dean and Vietnam vet Kerry are digging holes.....please don't interfere !!!
70 posted on 01/01/2004 12:35:04 PM PST by Hidgy (LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC)
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To: nwrep
I've heard William J. Murray preach. He's the son of Madalyn Murray O'Hair. Nutcases both.
71 posted on 01/01/2004 12:41:38 PM PST by mombonn
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To: shanscom
The Deans and how they handle their religious upbringiing of their children is none of our business. To bring it up in a campaign is not appropriate.
72 posted on 01/01/2004 12:47:27 PM PST by cajungirl (I adore the Brits!! Tony Blair is my hero!!)
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To: riri
We won that election, we didn't get 100 per cent. If Gore had not shown his colors in the debate it might have been different.
73 posted on 01/01/2004 12:51:25 PM PST by cajungirl (I adore the Brits!! Tony Blair is my hero!!)
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To: G.Mason
No need to get snippy. I was pointing out that you were being disrespectful of Marple by calling her foolish in a snide way. We need to converse here, not call people names when they disagree. And to purposely use my statements about political discourse, and that is what we are talking about, to be snide to me doesn't help a bit.
74 posted on 01/01/2004 12:54:22 PM PST by cajungirl (I adore the Brits!! Tony Blair is my hero!!)
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To: Hidgy
Ditto!
75 posted on 01/01/2004 12:55:49 PM PST by cajungirl (I adore the Brits!! Tony Blair is my hero!!)
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To: nwrep
Is there a Republican for Dean committee? I think he is the best candidate for Bush to beat
76 posted on 01/01/2004 12:55:59 PM PST by woofie
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To: cajungirl
"No need to get snippy. I was pointing out that you were being disrespectful of Marple by calling her foolish in a snide way. We need to converse here, not call people names when they disagree. And to purposely use my statements about political discourse, and that is what we are talking about, to be snide to me doesn't help a bit."

Snide to you? Me? A mere Bubba?

BTW, I called no one "names".

You must have me confused with someone who cares what you think.

77 posted on 01/01/2004 1:03:12 PM PST by G.Mason ( Oh Hillary? ....... GWB is waiting.)
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To: nwrep
"Howard Dean is too "mentally unstable" to become president "

Doesn't that apply to all Demorats?
79 posted on 01/01/2004 1:24:29 PM PST by Beck_isright ("Deserving ain't got nothing to do with it" - William Money)
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To: shanscom
"That's what we oughta snicker at. The husband was willing to reject Jesus Christ as his savior, and the wife was willing to throw her religion and heritage to the trash bin, in order to make a "compromise." That right there says all we need to know about Howard Dean."

I guess Dean's brand of "Christianity" wasn't attractive to either of his children.

But you hit the nail on the head about the liberal mindset. Principles are always secondary to "getting along" and "fitting in".
80 posted on 01/01/2004 2:33:39 PM PST by I still care
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