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Thomas Sowell: Two earthquakes -
Townhall.com ^ | December 30, 2003 | Thomas Sowell

Posted on 12/30/2003 11:53:54 AM PST by UnklGene

Two earthquakes -

Thomas Sowell (archive) December 30, 2003

Within a week of each other, two earthquakes struck on opposite sides of the world -- an earthquake measuring 6.5 on the Richter scale in California and a 6.6 earthquake in Iran. But, however similar the earthquakes, the human costs were enormously different.

The deaths in Iran have been counted in the tens of thousands. In California, the deaths did not reach double digits. Why the difference? In one word, wealth.

Wealth enables homes, buildings and other structures to be built to withstand greater stresses. Wealth permits the creation of modern transportation that can quickly carry people to medical facilities. It enables those facilities to be equipped with more advanced medical apparatus and supplies, and amply staffed with highly trained doctors and support staff.

Those who disdain wealth as crass materialism need to understand that wealth is one of the biggest life-saving factors in the world. As an economist in India has pointed out, "95 percent of deaths from natural hazards occur in poor countries."

You can see the effect of wealth by looking at the same country at different times. The biggest hurricane to hit the United States was hurricane Andrew in 1998 but it took fewer than 50 lives. Yet another hurricane, back in 1900, took at least 6,000 lives in Galveston.

The difference was that the United States was a much richer country in 1998. It had earlier warning from more advanced weather tracking equipment. It had better roads and more cars in which to evacuate before the hurricane struck, as well as more and better equipment for digging victims out of debris, and better medical treatment available for those who needed it.

Those who preen themselves on their "compassion" for the poor, and who disdain wealth, are being inconsistent, if not hypocritical. Wealth is the only thing that can prevent poverty. However, if you are not trying to prevent poverty but to exploit it for political purposes, that is another story.

There is another side to the story of these two earthquakes and their consequences. It gives the lie to the dogma being propagandized incessantly, from the schools to the media, that one culture is just as good as another.

It is just as good to lose tens of thousands of lives as not to? What hogwash! It is just as good to lack modern medicine, modern transportation, and modern industry as it is to have them? Who is kidding whom?

This dogmatism prevails at home as well as internationally. Cultures that lead to most children being born to single mothers are just as good as cultures where children grow up with two parents -- if you believe the dogma.

Facts say the opposite. Whether it is education, crime, or poverty, there are huge differences between single-parent families and two-parent families. Even race doesn't make as much difference in outcomes. The poverty rate among black married couples is in single digits. The infant mortality rate among black married women with only a high school diploma is lower than the infant mortality rate among white unmarried women who have been to college.

None of this makes a dent in those who promote the big lie that one culture is just as good as another. What does it even mean to say that? Does it mean that facts fit the dogma? Or does it just mean that they choose to use words in a certain way? It may not make any difference in their theories, but only in the real world.

None of this means that one culture is better than another for all purposes. The cheap vulgarity and brutal ugliness of so much of our media is a legitimate complaint at home and abroad. The sheer silliness of our fad-ridden public schools is a national disgrace.

By the same token, cultures that are less advanced in some ways often have contributions to make in other ways. We all take different things from different cultures to create our own personal lifestyles. We need to stop pretending that it makes no difference when all the facts show that it makes a huge difference, from poverty to matters of life and death.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: California
KEYWORDS: iranquake; thomassowell; wealth
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To: Publius6961
Say what?
61 posted on 12/30/2003 1:23:56 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Clues for sale, 20 % off through Jan 1, 2004. Don't be clueless, buy yours today.)
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To: Publius6961
Say what?
62 posted on 12/30/2003 1:24:19 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Clues for sale, 20 % off through Jan 1, 2004. Don't be clueless, buy yours today.)
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To: U S Army EOD
Is this still true if you eliminate the number of babies from the data that white unmarried women murder???

White unmarried mothers hardly ever murder their children. Their boyfriends murder the children.

63 posted on 12/30/2003 1:26:57 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: Publius6961
Well?
64 posted on 12/30/2003 1:28:51 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Clues for sale, 20 % off through Jan 1, 2004. Don't be clueless, buy yours today.)
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To: Plutarch
I don't think that is a true statement. I mean right after birth. In the other cases the boyfriend helps if the mother concents and it is usually their idea. We are talking about babies, not young children. Check your data.
65 posted on 12/30/2003 1:30:03 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technician screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Paso Robles, CA has a population of around 25,000. I think I read that Bam, Iran is around 35,000.

Paso Robles was about 25-30 miles from the epicenter of the quake.

The Bam quake occured on a fault running DIRECTLY through the city.

For a 6.5 magnitude earthquake, that's a HUGE difference.

People really need to stop kidding themselves that the main difference between the two quakes was anything other than locational luck, including Mr. Sowell.

Does the US have better seismic construction, and do we actually enforce our laws? Yes. If we suffered a 6.5 directly under a city the size of Bam, would we have fewer killed? Yes.

But we still could very easily have several thousand killed by a quake. In fact, we will. It's just a matter of time.

I worry more about earthquakes than AQ attacks for this country, myself.

66 posted on 12/30/2003 1:30:22 PM PST by John H K
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To: Plutarch
I have seen this quoted before, but I haven't seen the actual reference or numbers to back it up.

Don't hold your breath.
This is a classic lie by ommision. Try asking what is the birth rate per 100 pregnancies and compare those!
Killing in utero doesn't seem to count.

67 posted on 12/30/2003 1:31:45 PM PST by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: Publius6961
OK. If I read you correctly you are making a stupid attempt to insult me. If that is correct, why don't you go outside and play hide and go F yourself. If I am reading you wrong, sorry!
68 posted on 12/30/2003 1:31:59 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Clues for sale, 20 % off through Jan 1, 2004. Don't be clueless, buy yours today.)
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To: U S Army EOD
I understand your point and agree to a point, that point is technology.

I am only saying that 6.6 in a population center of the size of Bam in the U.S. would not kill 25,000 people - the difference being the technological advances in our architecture available to us by wealth.

There are 1000 year old mud buildings, but most are actually less than 100 years old - look at us 100 years ago compared to them in 2003

Bam has a population of 100,000 people, up to 70% were killed or injured in the 6.6 quake. 25,000 dead.

The population of San Francisco in 1906 was about 400,000, a 7.8 quake caused an estimated death of 3,000. (A 1972 NOAA report suggested that 700-800 was a reasonable figure.)

Our advances by 1906 afforded us better survival rates than Bam in 2003. SF had more people, a larger quake and had by todays standard more than 100 year old architecture.

That is a good comparison and makes Sowells point perfectly.

69 posted on 12/30/2003 1:33:29 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (This Quiet Diplomacy was brought to you by BIG STICK foreign policy.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
See my post above - Bam has a population of about 100,000.
70 posted on 12/30/2003 1:35:33 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (This Quiet Diplomacy was brought to you by BIG STICK foreign policy.)
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To: Publius6961
I rarely feel compelled to disagree with Dr, Sowell, but I must in this case. In one word: culture

That's not really a disagreement, just another way of looking at it. It's clear that "traditional" Islamic culture is a major impediment to economic progress.

71 posted on 12/30/2003 1:37:24 PM PST by ThinkDifferent
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To: John H K
The Bam quake occured on a fault running DIRECTLY through the city.

So did the 1906 SF quake. Paso Robles is a bad example - 1906 is a much better one. 3,000 out of 400,000 vs. 25,000 out of 100,000.

72 posted on 12/30/2003 1:38:27 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (This Quiet Diplomacy was brought to you by BIG STICK foreign policy.)
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To: UnklGene
Thanks for the post from one of America's treasures.
73 posted on 12/30/2003 1:38:57 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: rwfromkansas
Well yes, and no. When the 1989 7.0 quake hit northern CA the results were the same.

I was there and this quake was no joke. But, few people died compared to the Iran quake. Millions were situated in the affected zone of the CA quake.
74 posted on 12/30/2003 1:38:59 PM PST by snooker
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To: OldFriend
How many times has it been leveled in the past? And rebuilt in the same fashion constrained by poverty? Sowell is right on the money.
75 posted on 12/30/2003 1:40:33 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: snooker

76 posted on 12/30/2003 1:42:02 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (This Quiet Diplomacy was brought to you by BIG STICK foreign policy.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
How many times has it been leveled in the past?

I've seen no evidence that there's been a big quake in Bam in the last 500 years. It's possible Bam has NEVER been leveled by a quake before.

Most of the seismicity of the area has been to the NW. A fault was mapped there but a given fault can go 5,000-10,000 years without rupturing.

In a treeless environment mud brick construction makes a lot of sense...especially if nobody in your particular town can remember it being leveled by an earthquake.

77 posted on 12/30/2003 2:07:36 PM PST by John H K
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; snooker
I thought the population at Bam was more than that. Wow....I guess building codes/wealth pretty much accounted for it all.
78 posted on 12/30/2003 2:08:33 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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To: rwfromkansas
"Well, I think the California earthquake struck out in the middle of nowhere, while the one in Iran struck near a major city. That had a lot of impact also.
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Nope. Bam has a population of 70,000. San Luis Obispo County, where the CA quake struck, has a population of roughly 300,000. The quake was felt equally pretty much in the entire county. It is not the "middle of nowhere." It's just not Los Angeles or San Francisco.
79 posted on 12/30/2003 2:08:46 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: John H K
It makes sense only when that is all that you can afford. Once wealth comes in that type of construction becomes a thing of the past for good reason.
80 posted on 12/30/2003 2:12:07 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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