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Infighting between Dean, rivals gets ugly
AP | 12/30/03 | Will Lester

Posted on 12/30/2003 1:46:30 AM PST by kattracks

WASHINGTON (AP) — Infighting between Howard Dean and some of his rivals for the Democratic presidential nomination has gotten so nasty of late that Dean called on party chairman Terry McAuliffe to step in and tone things down. In the process, Dean managed to insult McAuliffe.

Republican strategists, meanwhile, are watching it all with barely contained glee.

"They are beginning to really gouge this guy," Republican pollster Bill McInturff said about Dean, chuckling. "Look at Howard Dean and, as a Republican, think about the advertising we're going to run."

McInturff said Republicans could use John Kerry's quotes about Dean wanting to tax the middle class, or the "wonderful attack" from Wesley Clark about Dean's draft status or the "terrific comments" from Joe Lieberman about Dean's stance on Saddam Hussein's capture.

Kerry has criticized Dean's plan to roll back all of President Bush's tax cuts, including those for the middle class. Clark has assailed Dean for heading to the ski slopes after getting a medical deferment to avoid military service in Vietnam. Lieberman has ridiculed Dean's assertion that Saddam's capture did not make Americans safer.

For now, Republicans don't have to worry about beating up on Dean, who is ahead of his fellow Democrats in the polls nationally and in states with early nominating contests. His Democratic rivals are taking care of the job.

In complaining over the weekend about the attacks, Dean wound up criticizing McAuliffe when he said a strong party leader would intervene to keep him from getting beat up. Criticism of Dean has intensified as he has risen in the polls and as he continues to make statements he later has to clarify.

"If we had strong leadership in the Democratic Party, it would be calling the other candidates and saying somebody has to win here," Dean said Sunday. "If (former Democratic National Committee head) Ron Brown were chairman, this wouldn't be happening."

Debra DeShong, a spokeswoman for the Democratic National Committee, dismissed Dean's complaints, saying what he is going through is not unusual.

"Democratic primaries over the last 20 years have been just as tough and just as vigorous," she said.

George H.W. Bush, father of the current president, gave Democrats one of their best attack lines against Ronald Reagan in 1980 when he derided Reagan's monetary policies as "voodoo economics," said Anita Dunn, a veteran Democratic strategist.

Bill Clinton was under siege in 1992 on everything from charges of philandering to draft dodging.

Both Reagan and Clinton won their elections.

"Back in August, people were complaining the Democratic campaign was not engaged," Dunn said. "This is what an engaged campaign looks like."

As engaged as Lieberman, Kerry, Dick Gephardt and others have been against Dean, so were they on Monday in response to his complaints.

Lieberman said that if Dean thinks things are tough now, he should see Bush's campaign team in action.

"Dean will melt in a minute once Republicans start going after him," Lieberman said.

Lieberman said he was surprised by Dean's sensitivity, noting that the former Vermont governor fired the first volleys with a negative ad about his rivals, called members of Congress "cockroaches" and party leaders "prostitutes," and referred to the centrist Democratic Leadership Council as "the Republican wing of the Democratic Party."

Dean also warned Sunday that hundreds of thousands of his supporters would be unlikely to back anyone else in November if he is not the Democratic nominee.

Kerry called the comment "divisive and threatening" and said it fit with Dean's pattern.

"He was the first candidate to attack in this campaign and the first to run negative ads and he has been attacking Democrats and their accomplishments during the Clinton years from day one of this race," Kerry said.

Gephardt accused Dean of now wanting to change the rules of the game "as he makes a series of embarrassing gaffes that underscore the fact that he is not well-equipped to challenge George Bush."

Dunn, who has seen plenty of tough primaries, says this year is a bit different in that there is more than the usual one or two credible candidates attacking the front-runner.

"Now you have five," said Dunn, who advised former Sen. Bill Bradley in the 2000 primary contest against former Vice President Al Gore. "The intensity is higher and the volume is louder."

Dean's campaign had its usual feisty reaction to the reaction over his complaints.

"May we remind Mr. Lieberman that the reason more than half a million Americans are behind Howard Dean is because he alone stood up to George Bush?" said spokeswoman Tricia Enright. "It seems like the Washington candidates have figured out the only state they can run in: desperation."



TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; gephardt; howarddean; johnkerry; lieberman
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1 posted on 12/30/2003 1:46:31 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Heheheh. Excellent.
2 posted on 12/30/2003 1:54:46 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: mhking
"Democratic primaries over the last 20 years have been just as tough and just as vigorous," she said.

The difference is, they didn't get this much attention. LOL. Thank God for the Information Age!
3 posted on 12/30/2003 1:55:19 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Seek the Truth, and the Truth will set you free.)
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To: Miss Marple
It used to be that some unknown would pop up from the primary like a Jack-in-the-Box. That doesn't happen much anymore. It would take a Torricelli-Loutenburg ruling by an insane Saprano Court to side-step scrutiny.

FReegards....
4 posted on 12/30/2003 1:58:08 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Seek the Truth, and the Truth will set you free.)
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To: kattracks
Lots of negative press on the Doc lately. Gotta ask yourself: "Who benefits?"
5 posted on 12/30/2003 2:01:58 AM PST by Leroy S. Mort
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To: Miss Marple
Karl Rove has got to be loving this.
6 posted on 12/30/2003 2:10:25 AM PST by ABG(anybody but Gore) (...And second prize goes to Kenny, for his Edward James Olmos impersonation!)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
No kidding! It certainly is providing a wealth of material!

Even if Dean doesn't get the nomination, the rest of them are making a lot of ridiculous comments as well.

7 posted on 12/30/2003 2:14:57 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Leroy S. Mort
Lots of negative press on the Doc lately. Gotta ask yourself: "Who benefits?"

Dean clearly.

He's committed go many gaffes, said so many stupid things.

It's 10 months until the general election and there's nothing stupid left to say.

The man's a genius.

8 posted on 12/30/2003 2:15:48 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: kattracks
Infighting between Howard Dean and some of his rivals for the Democratic presidential nomination has gotten so nasty of late that Dean called on party chairman Terry McAuliffe to step in and tone things down

This arrogant idiot doesn't seem to be able to take what he dishes out.
9 posted on 12/30/2003 2:17:44 AM PST by pt17
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To: pt17
This arrogant idiot doesn't seem to be able to take what he dishes out.

Typical Liberal.

10 posted on 12/30/2003 2:19:44 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Cockroaches and prostitutes? How did I miss those remarks? Anybody got sources for them?
Lieberman's dead-on here: ""I've got some news for Howard Dean...The primary campaign is a warm-up compared to what George Bush and Karl Rove have waiting for him...He's going to melt in a minute once the Republicans start going after him."
This is going to be a vintage year.
11 posted on 12/30/2003 3:17:50 AM PST by Graymatter (Let's issue a new $40 bill to honor our 40th president)
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To: Miss Marple
"May we remind Mr. Lieberman that the reason more than half a million Americans are behind Howard Dean is because he alone stood up to George Bush?"

Not bad out of +/- 200 million registered voters. (dripping with sarcasm)

12 posted on 12/30/2003 3:38:48 AM PST by Go Gordon (The older I get, the better I used to be.)
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To: Go Gordon
Wow! That's like .1667% of the population (which is almost 300,000,000).
13 posted on 12/30/2003 3:48:00 AM PST by anoldafvet (Democrats: Making the world safe for terrorists one lie at a time.)
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To: kattracks

Infighting between Dean, rivals gets ugly

I think I'm becoming quite fond of ugly.

14 posted on 12/30/2003 3:50:37 AM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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Exxx-celent

15 posted on 12/30/2003 3:53:25 AM PST by KneelBeforeZod (If God hadn't meant for them to be sheared, he wouldn't have made them sheep.)
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To: onyx
You got to love it! Standing back and letting these folks eat their own... I just hope Dizzy can hang on long enough to secure the nomination so we can wipe whats left of him off the floor...
16 posted on 12/30/2003 3:59:51 AM PST by gatorgriz ("The world is full of bastards - the number ever increasing the further one gets from Missoula, MT")
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To: anoldafvet
Its also about the equivalent of the population of the entire start of Vermont.
17 posted on 12/30/2003 4:00:39 AM PST by Go Gordon (The older I get, the better I used to be.)
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To: Go Gordon
Good take on the numbers, Gordon! They think that everyone agrees with them, whiich is the same mistake McGovern supporters made back in 1972.

I was in college then, and the prevailing feeling was that McGovern would win. Of course no one bothered to think about voters who weren't on college campuses. HA!

18 posted on 12/30/2003 4:43:58 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: gatorgriz
Oh yes, I'm having a wonderful time watching them snipe and critcize and insult one another. All democrats fight dirty and when the fighting is within their horrid party it is full-out fun to watch.

If history holds true, it's the hardcore, anti-war Lefties who will determine the outcomes of the primaries and '04's primaries will also bring out the Bush haters. Combine those two groups and it looks good for Dean. :)
19 posted on 12/30/2003 4:43:59 AM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: kattracks; Howlin; Liz
Dean managed to insult McAuliffe.

We only get ONE more year of this?

20 posted on 12/30/2003 4:50:19 AM PST by Libloather (USSC choice, Grade A, government inspected and approved, semi-free opinion...)
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