[Nonstatist]

No amount of security is worth my freedoms,

Then you won't mind if I club you on the head and steal your wallet?

[Dan Evans]

There was a time when it was legal to carry a gun on a plane. We didn't have hijackings then and if we allowed it again it will stop any more hijackings.

[sinkspur]

And an event occurring doesn't necessarily make it any more likely to occur in the future. Someone blowing up a plane doesn't mean that "people blow up planes now."

This idjit obviously wrote this before last Wednesday, when "flying planes into buildings now" were averted at the last minute.

[Johnny Gage]

HELMETS FOR EVERYONE!

[elbucko]

...because freedom is possibly the only commodity more precious than life itself.

Freedom is precious because it make life worth living. The national preoccupation with security is a national neurosis that is not doing the country any good and causes the very decisions that jeopardize our security.

[thoughtomator]

First among freedoms is the right to life. If it does not act to stop our enemies from killing us, what reason does government have to exist? And what freedom will really exist when an enemy can end your life arbitrarily? Living in cowed fear is not freedom.

[Triple Word Score]

For our own good, they removed any privacy that we think we have in favor of allowing the government to take any measures it deems necessary to discern any malicious intent any of us may harbor....

If there was anything of substance after this, this reader will just have to do without it. Privacy for the average law-abiding citizen has been absolutely unaffected by post-9/11 legislation. Meetings in mosques known to harbor anti-American mullahs still go unmonitored.

This article is horse manure.

[Busywhiskers]

"Is life so dear and peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death." -Patrick Henry, 1775

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Ben Franklin

[gcruse]

Welcome to Liberty Lite. That's where we search for bombs instead of terrorists. It is less explosive, politically, to search grannies and hotties at clogged airport terminals than it is to go after people who actually fit the profile of suicide bombers.

That's what Afghanistan was all about, being over the right target. Iraq was about who we could attack with the least consequence while settling old scores.

[CHICAGOFARMER]

Meet Mr Mohammed

Mohammed says his profound most sincere thank you.

Note two meg file but well worth it.

*Mohammed says thank you*

http://www.rustfreetrucks.com/stuff1/Iraqilawyermohammedgohome.mp3

cut and paste

[bert]

Antiwar = AntiAmerica

       The left is your enemy

[Walkin Man]

I'm tired of hearing all the whiners moaning about having to take their shoes off at the airport and going through bag searches, metal detectors, etc.

Heres what I propose to remedy the situation.

Create a new airline, call it Freedom Air.

No metal detectors, no screeners, no hassles whatsoever. Guns, explosive devices, knives, scissors, box cutters, shoe bombs, zip guns, etc... all welcome.

Then all the whiners can fly themselves and their families on it after signing a legally binding document that absolves the airline and the US government from all liability in case of a terrorist incident.

Course you may have trouble rounding up enough suicidal pilots and flight attendants but at least the whiners would shut their pie holes...permanently.

[chiller]

almost always in reaction to an isolated incident which we are afraid to treat as such.....

I'll concede the country is rife with over-reaction, and resultant legislation to prevent every boo-boo, but 9-1-1 is NOT an isolated incident. OBL and friends have been after us since the '93 WTC bombing, and the Cole, and maybe OK City, and we KNOW he wants to do more. You are a fool, sir, if you think it's time to drop our guard.

[FreedomCalls]

No amount of security is worth my freedoms

Hey, read my tagline:

It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security."

What makes America different from all other countries is our history of FREEDOM and not a history of keeping everybody safe and secure in a police state. Freedom is risky. I love it.

[BurtS188]

I just had a thought. The same liberals who for the previous 8 years (92-2000) regularly called for more gun control, less freedoms in regard to the second amendment because guns are so dangerous and evil, are now accusing President Bush of taking our rights away in the name of security and safety. It really is to bad that you can't have your cake and eat it to.

[dalereed]

They can take all their security and stick it, my personal health and safety is clear at the bottom of my priority list!

[GregoryFul]

Our founding forefathers pledged their lives and fortunes to secure freedom, we are running pellmell to toss it away: perchance to stop the hypothetical terrorist attack... What a shame.

[William Terrell]

The Drug of Choice

There are those who say we have a drug problem in America. They say the problem destroys individuals and families. They say our civilization is at risk as a result of the substance abuse sweeping the country.

What they say is true, in a way. But the drug of choice is not a substance, and the pushers thereof are not independent entrepreneurs working outside and against our system of government. The drug dealer is our system of government, and it deals in the most destructive, and popular, narcotic in the history of mankind's experiment with governments.

That is to say, security.

We have learned over the thousands of years of diverse human civilization that most people will do almost anything for security. Most will tolerate tyranny and submit to dehumanizing philosophies to keep it. They will commit acts of violence and sell their bodies.

The pushers of security will likewise gladly slaughter millions and sell their souls to the evils of rationalization for the revenues, for the return on that sale is the sovereignty of a increasing population of addicts. Money? Money pales against the prospect of power over the very heart and mind of a nation.

You ask, the most sought after state of being is a drug? Let's examine it. Security gives you that warm, fuzzy feeling of contentment, a high. Lack of it produces fear, a withdrawal. Introducing security into a fearful situation erases the fear, a fix.

Fear affects our bodies and so does contentment. Both affect our states of mind and, in fact, alters our consciousness. The presence of security alters the state of our consciousnesses and euphorizes our bodies. To avoid fear and feel happy, most will pay a dear price. Add to this the further fact that security is not necessary for life, it just makes life more comfortable. Otherwise we would have to sleep with one eye open.

Everyone learns to avoid too much of a good thing the first time they overeat. Over the rest of life we proceed to learn that there can be too much of anything. Like any physical drug, an appropriate amount of security elevates the equality of life.

Also, like any physical drug, abuse leads to loss of choice and loss of self respect.

Incredible as it may sound, we can have too much security. Most of us have too much right now. We get it from the worst place possible: our elected representatives charged with making and administering the law. We are dipping our drinking water from a mud puddle called socialism, filled in meager amount, at election time by those same representatives.

Now, there is nothing at all wrong with being secure in your life, liberty and property. After all, the things we have been able to achieve when insulated from the jungle have brought much glory to God and much prosperity to mankind. But to lose the jungle entirely is to forget the beast that ever prowls at the periphery of civilization, to wander in its den and be consumed.

While this is a nation whose motto is "In God We Trust", and which exclamation appears on even our medium of exchange, we trust in the largess of corruptible human beings to deliver an inferior savior, welfare, whose lifetime is short and whose demise is not on the cross of devotion and sacrifice, but in the gutter of poverty.

This nation was founded on the principals of duty and honor, and a devotion to the eternal fount of prosperity in freedom and self determination. For our experiment to work, we must follow the laws and commandments from the Source of that fount, and depend on that Source. To this purpose, we set up a government.

Let us state the truth outright. God does not create governments; He creates us and we create governments. The sad and inescapable weaknesses and failings of government comes from its creator, and which weaknesses and failings we can count, every one, on Capitol Hill, with the promises of wealth without effort and freedom without sacrifice.

Beware the wisdom whose genesis resides within the human mind and whose mission is false security in safety, leisure and entertainment. Beware the path of least resistance, where the cobblestones are painted with the thinnest of imitation gold leaf. That way lies the womb of the Great Mother, and the price of admission is the integrity of the soul.

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

Captive Honour

Madness comes, and madness goes An insane place, with insane moves

Battles without, for battles within Where evil lives and evil rules

Breaking them up, just breaking them in Quickest way out, quckest relief wins

Never disclose, never betray Cease to speak or cease to breathe

And when you kill a man, you're a murderer
Kill many, and you're a conqueror
Kill them all ... Ooh ... Oh you're a God!

Megadeth 1992